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What's so great about heaven, anyway?

 
 
Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:04 pm
I was born Catholic. Even in grade school, I thought the idea of heaven was creepy. I mean, In order to get there, you have to DIE first. BUMMER! The bible doesn't support the idea of life after death, and I can't understand the rationale behind NDE or reincarnation. Would somebody please explain what about life right here on earth is so bad they would be willing to take a chance on the unknown Question
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eoe
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:12 pm
What's so great about heaven? I'll see my mama again.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:17 pm
Where would you like to see her? In heaven as a spirit? Or, here on earth as a flesh and blood human being? I submit the latter eventuality IS supported by the bible.
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eoe
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:33 pm
Rather see where she will be well again and whole.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:37 pm
Yes
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extra medium
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:37 pm
Well, heaven has the streets made out of gold right? Thats kind of cool. :wink:
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 08:39 pm
Welcome, EM
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extra medium
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 09:22 pm
Hey Neo.

I think there was another thread something along the lines of "Design your own heaven."

Anyway, the consensus seemed to be that most classical descriptions of heaven sound pretty boring...

Hey I have a pretty good friend who is a pastor. His wife just passed away. Prior to her death, he asked her "Do you think we'll recognize each other in heaven?" She said "No. We'll be there but we won't recognize one another."

Now its an interesting relationship they have, because even though he's the pastor, he defers to her on matters of faith, like he thinks she knows the real stuff more than himself.

And he was saddened to hear she sort of believes in an impersonal heaven. That is, she believes we won't see our families & friends up there, etc.

Yet they both seemed to be very kind of traditional Christians...if there is such a thing.

I was just suprised to hear of a Christian that seemed to believe we'll be in heaven, but more as something like dispersed energy glowing...we won't be like recognizable to one another like "oh there's my sister."

Anyone ever hear of this kind of Christian idea of heaven? Sort of impersonal like that?
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 09:30 pm
Agobard, Archbisop of Lyons wrote:
Things of such absurdity are believed by Christians as no one aforetime could induce the heathens to believe.
I don't think things have changed. The truth is much too elementary for the lofty minds of the clergy.
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Eorl
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2005 11:49 pm
eoe nailed it I think.

That's exactly what is great about the promise of heaven.

Death need not be faced. My loved ones don't die and nor do I.

Yay!
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Marquis de Carabas
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 11:49 pm
That's exactly what is great about the promise of religion.

Reality need not be faced. My loved ones don't die and nor do I.

Yay!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 11:55 pm
Is there an echo in here?
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Eorl
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 12:10 am
I think it's just an episode of "When Quotations Go Bad!"
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 12:12 am
Will there be scantily clad young ladies such as one might find in "When Supermodels Go Bad?"
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Eorl
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 12:15 am
No, but the editors assure me there will be some pretty saucy quotes, some naked metaphors and maybe even bare-faced lies!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 12:16 am
Oooo . . . i can't wait ! ! !
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