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What's the secret behind v < c

 
 
mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 06:03 am
@farmerman,
I'm not wrong - Do your homework.
'C' (Light-speed) is variable. It slows down to 24 mph through a quartzite chrystal. It has been exceeded X64 from Nassim's tauroidal capacitor - And it's not you who is at fault for depending on 'Fake-sciences'' doctrine of slotting stuff into empty gaps, because it, somewhat, aligns with 'established' societal programming.

Nevertheless - Radio Carbon Dating - N14 into C14, 13, 12 - 5730 years halflife (50% vacant - NOT depreciated - into C12) etc.
I have a question before I expose Isotopic-dating as 'fake-science'. Would you be inclined to provide me with an answer, when I ask?

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mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 06:34 am
@htam9876,
The 'EGO-WE' IS/= what 'WE' measure.
The 'NON-EGO-WE' is ....... Everything else.

This is from the Non-Ego.

As for 'physical' 'Experiments' - Fallacy 1: There ARE Constants.

There are NO constants in any field (in any field) that is NOT seperate from linearity, or the observation (memory-bound), by 'source'))

No 2 things can coexist simultaneously in the same universe.
No 2 experiments are the "SAME".

If NO two 'things' can occupy the same 'location' (CURRENT-REALITY), how can 'either of, or any, equate to either others' EXACT', UNIQUE spacial ity?

You have been TAUGHT that constants exist.
THIS IS Fake-science.

farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 07:51 am
@mark noble,
are your eyes brown?
mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 09:02 am
@farmerman,
yes.

Here's the question.

If C14 birthed 'NOW'
And 5730-yr-less one day-old (C13, aside) C14 share the same 'space' (test-tube) How (C13, aside) can we determine which is which?

If you need to include C13 - Same question, but, C14-C13 in 2865-yrs?

Here's a weird'ish analogy:

If I gave you 2 stinkbombs -
1. Stinkbomb 1 is set to pop in 24hrs and 1 minute.
2. Stinkbomb 2 is set to pop in 1 minute.
3. I Don't tell you which Stinkbomb is which

There is now a dilation of measurement beyond the prescription medium.

In order to validate such measurement (C14=hl 5730yrs) CORRECTLY - A C14 atom would require isolating, containing and observing in all correlated fields in all universes (Of 'near' exactitude (Isotopic-valency)) - For 5730yrs.

So - A 5730yr dating of dead stuff - Might be 5729.999yrs Out?
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 10:05 am
@mark noble,
Carbon has 15 isotopes , 13 of which are radioactive and only one of those has a half- life long enough to be considered useful in mass measurements, water flow, deposits of chemical fossils, and time determination. What are you talking about?.
Look up NMR and the determination of ratios of C12/C13/C14 in samples, its a mature technique
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Youre kinda playin in my court mark.

BTW, C11 has a half life of about 20.3 (+/- 0.45) minutes.
I dont know where you yank some of your musings, most of which is gibberish. Ill give you two sources that are written in a popular vein for non- scientists to njoy.

1. The Geosciences HAndbook-AGI DATA SHEETS, 5th ed. (AGI pub)

2. Radiometric Dating--A Christian Perspective Wiens, Roger.1994,(expanded 2004).

PS, If C14 ws "birthed" today, I dont think any reasonably competent scientist would waste lab time and expense to measure hqlf lives or remaining isotope. Wed probably just read the newspaper as to what caused the cosmogenic "injection" of C14 " on that day. If you want to determine the amount of C12/C13/C15 (and all the rest ,most of which have half lives in milliseconds,)except C11


mark noble
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jun, 2019 06:18 am
@farmerman,
Thanks fm.

How would you know that the C14 made today - was made today or 10 yrs ago?

Or 100yrs ago, even?

farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jun, 2019 10:26 am
@mark noble,
by the equations,
-dP/dt=( LAMBDA) P,
AND
t=1/(LAMBDA) ln {D/P +1}

P=parent isotope, D=daughter isotope,LAMBDA =decay constant of the parent, t=time in anna, another geochron unit is the geochron second.

Since all isotopes have a unique ecay rate (and constant) whether "year lengths chnged" is immaterial since the number of disintegrations /second per isotopic atom is the defined unit
mark noble
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jun, 2019 10:55 am
@farmerman,
Cheers.

Are you saying that - Up to the point where C14 becomes C13 - C14's rate of decay has 'measurable' properties beside that of its own?

If we measure C14 - C13 in distance (Say 1k miles) Are there 'measurable' waypoints between (Say, every 100 miles, 50 miles, 1 mile)?

If so, How do we locate them, please?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jun, 2019 11:12 am
@mark noble,
C14 doesnt have C13 in it decay chain. You need to bone up with a decent P chem book . I really dont hav the time or interest because youre not even asking rational questions. (Im not a teacher anymore and I lose patience when people obtusely try "not to get it")
mark noble
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jun, 2019 11:23 am
@farmerman,
Ok C14 into C12?

I was happy to ignore C13 - You brought it into play.

You want to back out because you can see where this leads, by Now.
It means that dating of 'things' using base elements is 'guesswork'.

And that jeopardises your related field of study.

Cheers
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 30 Jun, 2019 04:04 pm
@mark noble,
wouldnt you really like to know??
Youre fishing in muddy water with a pool cue and a rubber hook. Go out and try to learn something.

Do you believe we didnt land on the Moon as well?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 5 Jul, 2019 06:57 pm
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:
c is variable.
It is based on an average of measurements taken from multiple institutes every decade.

We're only talking billionth's - But No 2 equate.

And the 'field' of measurement is never the same 'field' - Nor is the 'measuring' aparatus.

Murky thinking. Our measurement of c, the speed of light in a vacuum, is subject to error. That doesn't make the speed itself variable.
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