By the way, in my previous posting I depicted more or less the pattern of the popular concensus in Israel. If Likud won the elections with such an overwhelming majority, this means, that Mr. Sharon's program is the closest to the popular concensus.
Just heard Bush on the radio saying its just to go to war and that we cannot forget the thousands of Kurds he gassed.
I agree, we must nog forget! But that wasn't the reason he wanted to go to war! A few months ago he said Saddam had WMD and that Iraq was a direct threat to the US. BTW, if u see the pictures of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam in 1983 its kind of hypocrite. 5 years later we had the gas attack on Halabjah.
BTW, not everybody is sure about the origin of the gas attack.
US Suppressed Gas Charge Report
Frolic
Quote:Sharon seized power because of the violence and stayed in power last elections
There you go again. Sharon was elected he did not as you say seize power. And what and who do you think elected him. The Intefada. The Palestinians do a great job in electioneering for him with there constant acts of terror. They do not want peace their only aim is the destruction of Israel.
By the way do you have any kind words to say about the PA and Arafat[the prince of peace}?
Let me clarify I was not talking about you being the oppressor although your opinions are rather obvious. I was referring to those from whence you sprung.
I should further note that Anti Semitism is not dead in Europe I has just been hibernating.
A strong case for the war that cannot be directly publicized: to intimidate all the rogue regimes. If Iraq is defeated and Saddam is displaced, his colleagues in Tehran, Pyongyang, Harare and other places of the kind will reconsider their behavior as a result of changes in the balance of force in the world and reality of threat of their forceful replacement. This will make the world more safe and predictable place to live.
Frolic, in 1983 no one of the Bush family was a President. OK?
as i stated before. Anti Semitism is not Anti-jew. Palestinians are semites too.
A Dictionary Article From the American Heritage Collegiate Dictionary
Quote:anti-Semitism
SYLLABICATION: an·ti-Sem·i·tism
PRONUNCIATION: nt-sm-tzm, nt-
NOUN: 1. Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism. 2. Discrimination against Jews.
I do not know what does this term mean in French or Flemish, but in English and in Russian it refers to animosity toward Jews and not all the Semites (just like Germanophobia refers to hatred toward Germans, and not Swedes, Dutch or Englishmen, that also belong to the German family).
frolic
Semantics, everyone knows what is meant when the term anti semitism is used.
even if u use the narrow concept. still i'm not a anti-semite. Like i said before. I have no problem with the jews here in antwerp. There are a lot of chassidim jews here. And still got no problem with them. So i wont see myself as anti semite. More anti Israel Govt.
Frolic, in most cases you will not be able to distinguish a Jew and non-Jew visually (at least when they are fully dressed). Chassids are the small minority, and they really have very peculiar, if not to say weird, attire. Secular Jews look like any other White people (examples: Stephen Spielberg, Dustin Hoffmann, Barbara Streisand, Ari Fleischer, Heinrich Heine, etc.). And the Ethiopian Jews are regular Blacks.
And the Israeli government has not done anything wrong to you, so you have no reasons to be hostile toward it. It is neither better nor worse than the Belgian government, and it was elected through the completely democratic procedure.
steissd wrote:A strong case for the war that cannot be directly publicized: to intimidate all the rogue regimes. If Iraq is defeated and Saddam is displaced, his colleagues in Tehran, Pyongyang, Harare and other places of the kind will reconsider their behavior as a result of changes in the balance of force in the world and reality of threat of their forceful replacement. This will make the world more safe and predictable place to live.
War is not something you begin because you cant stand someone's face. What if China dislikes the govt of Japan? And what is undemocratic? Democracy is not a world standard. It seems to work for Western Europe and the US. Russia is hardly a democracy. China is not a democracy, they kill and torture, oppress religions(Falun Gong), Tibet,.... Is war against China legal?
steissd wrote:The original contains basically the same information, but report of Fox seems just more readable. There are too many details in the original report that distract attention from the essence of conclusions.
This is an , ehem, interesting opinion of how to get informations.
Russia? Why do you consider it to be non-democratic? It has multi-partisan system, equal enfranchisement of all its citizens, free elections, independent courts and freedom of speech and public associations. What else Russia has to do to be considered a democratic country: to surrender to the Chechen bandits?
Mr. Hinteler, do you have reasons for not trusting one of the leading information agencies? Of course, the original contains nuances overlooked by the media coverage. But for the purpose of my posting the information of the Fox News was quite sufficient.
Frolic, it is not about anyone's face. Mr. Kim Jong Il is to be intimidated not because of his being ugly or not, but for his attempts to make nuclear weapons a public domain, including access to it by the non-governmental terror groups. Mugabe should be taught a lesson regarding sanctity of private property. And so on.
Sem·ite (sĕm'īt')
n.
A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
steissd wrote:Mr. Hinteler, do you have reasons for not trusting one of the leading information agencies?
I don't know, if Fox is a leading news-agency., since I never got any information from them in my newspapers, magazines, online news and other media.
I do know. however, that the original source always is to prefer to any summary - especially, since it's so easy available: online.
I think, China does not completely conform a definition of rogue regime. They develop their society in their own pace, without being in a hurry. By all means, they do not seriously threaten anyone.
