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PETA Kills Animals

 
 
cjhsa
 
Reply Thu 12 May, 2005 04:58 pm
PETA and HSUS are not what you think.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2005 05:16 pm
That article sounds a good deal like a partisan rant. Nevertheless, i don't doubt its contentions about PETA euthenizing so many animals. I have never had any respect for the organization. Beside their holier-than-thou attitude, and their militancy, there is the stupidity they so commonly display. I'll not name names, because i don't want to have a public statement of mine drawing the attention of these loonies, but i personally know of a case in which a bunch of these idjits were moved to spray-paint the fur coats of women in public. It happened in a town where i was living. The only problem was, they spray painted the coat of a wealthy woman married to a lawyer--and the coat was fake fur. PETA ponied up what was reputed to be a large sum (can't say, as the settlement required non-disclosure) to keep the incident quiet.

In California in the early 1980's, they decided on a "guerilla activity," and "liberated" nearly two hundred turkeys from a turkey farm before Thanksgiving. Domestic turkeys . . . i'll bet the local coyotes couldn't believe their luck. Here ya go, incredibly stupid little birdies, instead of dying in the slaughterhouse, you can go out to the wilderness, in which you are not equipped to live, and die in terror, pain and bewilderment as a coyote rips the flesh from your still living body. What a bunch of clueless clowns.

I don't hunt, because i have other things i'd like to spend my money on, and as a single man, the meat would likely go to waste. I don't object to hunting, although i would prefer to see it done for the meat and not simple amusement. But neither sport hunting nor meat-eating are illegal, and no argument of this bunch convinces me that it is unethical. Respect for all life? Sure, instead of killing a half-dozen animals a year for your protein, you can slaughter plants in their billions to provide your less than adequate diet. White-tail deer have become so ubiquitous, that normal hunting seasons can no longer control the population, and state's are obliged to resort to professional hunters to cull the herds--which otherwise face death from disease and starvation.

I'm not fond of militancy in any form, and these clowns take the cake for outrage-without-a-clue. There, i feel much better now.
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squinney
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2005 05:25 pm
The strangest thing I've seen them do was protest the Oscar Meyer Weiner mobile at a local event. They made a huge stink about it being at a park for a city event.

I love animals, but PETA does tend to go too far, IMO.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Thu 12 May, 2005 05:31 pm
can't remember when i stopped supporting PETA, it's been a long while. i do support HSUS, cjhsa, and i didn't see anything in your link that mentions HSUS, or am i mistaken?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 09:37 am
You are mistaken, it is mentioned, and it is a mistake to support them as they are aligned with PETA. HSUS is nothing more than huge anti-hunting animal rights PAC based in Washington, D.C. If you want to go work at your local humane society shelter, good for you, but don't give these clowns any money. They aren't who they claim to be.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 09:45 am
cjhsa wrote:
They aren't who they claim to be.


Don't such organisation have to show e.g. where the money goes, what program they have etc?


Here, I would never give any money to an organsation, which isn't 'certified'. And especially not to one, which isn't what it claims. (Those wouldn't survive long, though: they soon would be prosecuted.)
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 09:46 am
They use the term "Humane Society" so that the gullible will associate them with the local shelter.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 09:48 am
Well, there are uneducated all over the world.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 10:17 am
http://able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1101107#1101107

http://able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1103018#1103018




cj's a bit, errrr, attached to this issue
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Synonymph
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 10:23 am
Beth, you're truly a diplomat.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 10:27 am
ehBeth wrote:


cj's a bit, errrr, attached to this issue


Just doing what I see as my civic duty here on A2K.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 10:34 am
cjhsa wrote:


Just doing what I see as my civic duty here on A2K.


We all are very thankful to have at least one member here, who's showing civle courage.

Thanks to cjhsa, this site isn't so down as liberals try to make it.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 05:06 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,156398,00.html
PETA Gets to Your Kids
Friday, May 13, 2005
By Steven Milloy

Radical animal-rights activists may be the last people you'd think would be planning school lessons for your children. Well, think again.

Through its innocuous-sounding "educational" programming arm known as TeachKind, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has found a way to reach school children starting as young as kindergarten with its extremist agenda. The opportunity for PETA (search) to gets its message into the classroom has been paved, at least in part, by various laws on the books in at least 12 states mandating humane education in public schools ?- thus creating a demand for curricula centered on teaching children about the humane treatment of animals.

Naturally, PETA is only too happy to provide ready-made lesson plans, videos and handouts to already overworked teachers.

"Kids who hurt animals may be on a dangerous path that will only get worse if it is not corrected. Psychiatrists, FBI profilers and law enforcement officials have repeatedly documented that kids who abuse animals rarely stop there," TeachKind warns.

Its fact sheet, entitled "Animal Abuse and Human Abuse: Partners in Crime," points out that "violent acts toward animals have long been recognized as indicators of a dangerous psychopathy that does not confine itself to animals," and goes on to detail how many notorious school shooters, including Columbine's Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, were known to mutilate animals prior to their attacks on humans.

Indeed, according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (search) (DSM-IV) published by the American Psychiatric Association, participation in animal torture is one of the early warning signs of a severe emotional disturbance in a child, ranking alongside fire-setting as a strong indicator of future criminal behavior as well as the likelihood of psychopathy in adulthood.

While there's no question that the small number of children who torture animals are quite disturbed and that all children should be taught how wrong such behavior is, it's quite another matter for PETA to capitalize on this issue as an opportunity to indoctrinate children with PETA's own radical, catch-all definition of what constitutes "animal cruelty." And that's precisely what PETA is doing through TeachKind.

As its Web site prominently touts the animal cruelty-psychopathy connection with quotes from FBI criminalists and others, a closer inspection reveals that the bulk of TeachKind's educational efforts are actually crafted so as to make children believe that everyday behaviors, such as eating a diet that contains meat or animal products, are unmistakably, unequivocally acts of animal cruelty.

PETA's frightening of young children by equating, or even associating, truly disturbed behavior such as mutilation of a family pet with common everyday practices such as eating hamburgers amounts to nothing less than ideological child abuse.

PETA even accuses schools across America of being major perpetrators of animal cruelty. They oppose basic learning methods widely practiced throughout our educational system such as insect collection, field trips to zoos or aquariums, and dissection in the classroom.

"Hearing a lot about violence in schools? You can do something to help. Cut out dissection!" announces their Web-based anti-dissection campaign, which even mentions how a young Jeffrey Dahmer "became fascinated with blood and guts" as a result of participating in a biology assignment involving dissection. With this assertion, PETA is inviting impressionable young minds to believe that all it takes is one experience with a dissection assignment to walk away a psychopathic serial killer.

In addition to encouraging kids to refuse to participate in dissection assignments, the campaign even coaches kids on the exact wording to use in their formal written objections so as to "provide the basis for a possible legal case."

A significant portion of TeachKind's curriculum is devoted to persuading children to adopt a vegetarian diet as a way to avoid participating in "animal cruelty." PETA's Web-based materials provide the warped logic that if farmers treated a cat or a dog the way they treat livestock, they would "be prosecuted for animal cruelty and locked up" ?- once again stressing the theme of hypothetical criminality for those who eat meat.

PETA even tries to scare kids away from drinking milk, a food so controversial that it occupies its very own wedge on the latest FDA food pyramid for optimal nutrition. A series of trading cards called "Don't Be a Milk Sucker" available from its Web site, features cartoon characters suffering a host of illnesses PETA attributes to milk consumption such as ear infections, obesity, acne, and even diabetes!

Nor does milk consumption escape PETA's definition as a distinctly cruel act against animals. We meet "Milk-Stealing Ming," who is depicted with his mouth directly attached to an unhappy cow's udder, alongside a "wanted poster" describing his crimes and exclaiming, "cows make milk for their babies, not for maniacs like Ming."

If we are to take at face value PETA's irresponsible suggestion that "animal cruelty" ?- as defined by their radical, catch-all parameters ?- is a reliable indicator of psychopathic tendencies, I suppose it's just a matter of time before we all read about Milk-Stealing Ming's future adult crime sprees in the headlines.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 13 May, 2005 05:13 pm
Well, that's just as inflamatory and slanted an assessment as you could have posted here. Whereas i consider PETA to be extremists, and every bit as potentially dangerous as any other bunch of extremists, that does not mean that i will subscribe to Fox "News" tripe--hysteria inducing journalism.

I'm outta here . . .
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 12:01 pm
I love how the simple mention of Fox news makes liberals run screaming. If you watch CNN, and can't see the slant, you probably hate Fox.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 12:07 pm
I haven't run screaming, i have reacted to the slanted tone of the material you presented. I do not keep up with current events by watching television--i read.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 12:17 pm
And I don't see the slanted tone of the article, other than being anti-PETA. Good.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 12:24 pm
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 12:33 pm
I suppose next you are going to tell me that Milk Stealing Ming is just PETA's Barney the dinosaur.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2005 12:35 pm
What i am going to tell you is that Fox has used innuendo and a sneering tone to suggest what the content of a PETA syllabus would be. They may be right about it, but they did not establish it in that article, which is a hatchet job.

I said i was outta here, and i should have meant it then. I do now.
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