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Legal Use of Lyrics

 
 
roparte
 
Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 03:08 pm
I would like to use lyrics in my book that were written in the early 1800s. Do I need permission? Cool
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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 07:17 pm
probably
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booman2
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 09:32 pm
Is the Pope Catholic?... I believe you do it through ASCAP
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2005 07:09 am
After nearly two hundred years the lyrics are in the public domain and available for use.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2005 07:36 am
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Music and lyrics written by an American author and published in 1922 or earlier are in the Public Domain in the United States. No one can claim ownership of a song in the public domain, therefore public domain songs may be used by everyone. PD songs may be used for profit-making without paying any royalties. If you create a new version or derivative of a public domain song, you can copyright your version and no one can use it without your permission. However, the song remains in the public domain, and anyone else can also make and copyright their own version of the same PD song.

Songs change over time. Even though a public domain version exists, some versions may still be under copyright protection. The only way to confidently identify a PD version is to find a copy of the song with a copyright date old enough for public domain status. You can then use that PD version or work from it to create your own derivative work. If you work from a version still under copyright protection, the copyright owner can likely make a valid claim for royalties.

There are songs written after 1922 which are PD in the US, but only rarely can they be confidently identified without the advice of an attorney or rights clearance agency. Countries other than the US may offer copyright protection for 70 years or more after the death of the author. There is no such thing as an "international copyright". If you wish to use a song outside of the United States, you must check the copyright laws for each individual country where you use the song.


http://www.pdinfo.com/
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2005 08:34 am
roparte: If the lyrics were written in the early nineteenth century, then they are most probably in the public domain, and you will not need to obtain any permissions to use them. The only exception that I can imagine is if the lyrics have been adapted to a piece of music that is copyrighted -- in that case, you might have some problems with the owner of the music copyright.
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booman2
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2005 05:39 pm
Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
How did I not pay attention to you saying 1800''s? I shudda' took that trip to Oz, with the Scarecrow.
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