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America's Christian Population Decreasing

 
 
Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:17 pm
Most Americans call themselves Christians.

Twice they chose as their supreme leader Bill Clinton a

sexual predator and pathological liar who regarded the

"religious right" as enemies and radical homosexuals as

friends, and who by any meaningful and historical measure

was a traitor.

After that, millions of Christians came within a hair's

breadth of electing Clinton's partner in crime, Al Gore

another pathological liar, a radical environmentalist

who reveres "Gaia" but believes the internal-combustion

engine should be outlawed (according to his book,

{"Earth in the Balance"}.



Christians have stood on the sidelines during

the breathtaking transformation of their once-

great Judeo-Christian culture into today's neo

pagan, Sodom-and-Gomorrah-style freak show.



Christians have lost the 30-year

war to protect the unborn......



Christians have lost the war for America's schools

which have been scrubbed antiseptically clean of the

Christian principles and traditions that once guided

those institutions, and are now filled instead with

every conceivable form of propaganda and perversion.



Christians have lost their former influence in politics,

in the press, in entertainment, in literature every major

area of life. And now,Christians are losing the war for their

very own institutions their churches. The clergy sex

scandal is the tip of the iceberg. Both the Catholic

Church and most of the major:

Protestant denominations are literally being ripped

apart from within by double agents who pretend to be

"faithful" but actually loathe Christianity's historical

precepts and values.

It's a harsh indictment - but hey, the truth hurts.

In his recent book, "Abandonment Theology,"
author John W. Chalfant describes the precipitous
decline of Judeo-Christian influence in law, culture
and public policy in America, noting the 1947
Supreme Court decision that invented the modern
"separation of church and state" and later decisions
that outlawed Bible reading and prayer in the nation's
public schools. He writes:

Once God was shown the door,America went into chaos.
Scholastic Aptitude Test scores plummeted. Violent crime
rocketed upward. The abortion mills did an unprecedented
business as they devised ever-more-sadistic ways to kill
children before and even during birth. Bill Clinton, elected
president of the United States in 1992, aggressively
advocated homosexuality, which God calls "abomination."

The Abandonment Clergy and their millions of undiscerning
followers stood mute while America's sudden loss of greatness
became obvious even to the world.

What's this about an "Abandonment Clergy"? Chalfant explains:

Abandonment Theology is a term devised by the author to describe

a faith which deceptively pawns itself off as Christianity by operating

in the name of Christ, but which produces fruits destructive to

America's God-given freedoms. It comprises what is left today of the

militant, power-filled,full-dimensional Christian faith of America's

Founders after decades of erosion, watering down and trivializing of

God's action mandates by America's Abandonment Clergy.

It is a "feel good"theology that patronizes Jesus Christ
and thereby gains legitimacy,while at the same time
produces disobedience to the commands of God and
desertion of Christian duty........

Chalfant describes how the "Abandonment Clergy"

and their followers have responded to increasingly

audacious attacks on Christian America during the

past half-century:

Incredibly, this was the ultimate hour for the Abandonment
Clergy to see the light of truth. They faced blatant godlessness
at every turn. They could have abandoned their own ways and
made a comeback to the faith of the Founding Fathers.
But what did they do?
They observed the horrible, deteriorating conditions in America, determined that she was headed into rubble just like pagan Rome and that we must be living in the prophesied "last days" and "end times." Therefore, with the end and the "rapture of the church" so apparently near, why fight? "After all," these clergymen said, "We're in this world, not of it, so to heck with it," and "Compared to eternity we're here only for an instant." They told us that all that really counts is that we "lead as many people as possible to salvation and let our corrupted country continue on its death course."

Faulty Christian teaching, says Chalfant, is the only way
to explain why so many well-meaning Christians are paralyzed into inaction:

The Abandonment Clergy and their followers have been
teaching, preaching and saturating the media and their
church members with the doctrine of surrender and political
non-involvement. They are not teaching us to surrender
to Christ through obedience to the commandments of God.
Rather, they tell us that America is finished, that the collapse
of our heritage and our freedoms has been predetermined
within a definable near-future time frame and is therefore
beyond our control.
Chalfant takes direct aim at those obsessed with
their own imminent "rapture":

The legitimate study of eschatology (the future in prophecy) has been converted into a doctrine of futility and surrender by the clergy who, in defiance of Christ's injunction (see Mark 13:32,33), insist upon assigning near-future dates to the "last days," the "rapture of the church" and the "second coming" of Christ. … At the very least the clergy should understand that their "last days" teachings are nothing more than personal speculations. Christ taught that futility of attitude denies the faith and leads to enslavement. He promised great rewards for those who endure to the end in His cause of freedom.......



Chalfant is right. But the problem with contemporary Christianity goes way beyond mere political non-involvement. Do we dare take an honest look?

One reason for the multitude of attacks on Christianity is that evil always attacks good - because it is good - because good shines a bright and painful light on the works of darkness. Jesus Himself warned His followers to expect to be persecuted, just as He was persecuted. This is the reason, and a profound one, that Christians offer to explain why they, their values and their institutions are always under attack.

However, there is another, and far more decisive, reason for the spectacular decline of Christianity in our modern era: Christianity today is very different from what it once was.

America is full of people who have accepted the idea that Jesus Christ died for their sins, and that this belief guarantees them a place in Heaven. Some are very sincere. They are truly mortified at their former sins, genuinely contrite before God and those they have offended, and they grieve over their continuing compulsions.

They have awakened from their former life of gross sin, and now want nothing more than to do the will of their Creator - whatever that may be, wherever it may lead them, whatever they may suffer. They take seriously the commandments and principles given by their Savior, and make their life revolve around emulating Him, to the best of their ability. They are, quite literally, followers of Christ - that is, Christians........


On the other hand, there are countless "Christians" who believe they have a ticket to Heaven, and nothing else really matters very much to them. Their attitude can only be described as brazen. They live lives of shallowness and selfishness, of petty emotions and jealousies, of distraction and escape, of ego and pride, and sometimes of gross corruption and treachery - remember, Clinton is a churchgoing "Christian." This version of Christianity, more prevalent than you can imagine, literally justifies and excuses dirty rotten scoundrels. Its adherents, while living it up under the smug delusion that they're "saved," drive other people crazy (and away from real Christianity) with their hypocrisy. And then there are, of course, millions of "lukewarm" Christians in between these two groups. They go to church and sing songs and sometimes read the Bible, and maybe "try to be a good Christian" - but they're basically clueless. Their marriage is on the rocks and their children are wearing tongue studs. They believe in society's atheistic "experts" and they're addicted to Internet porn.
Some Christians are actually worse off after being "saved" than before. At least before they were "saved," they had a natural respect for, or fear of, ultimate justice - an inborn sense that somehow we all reap what we sow. After being "saved," that's gone for the insincere "Christian." For him or her, belief in Jesus amounts to a "get-out-of-Hell-free" card, a sort of spiritual "diplomatic immunity." It's like the profligate teenage son of an important Arab diplomat who knows he won't be prosecuted under U.S. law while living here, so he drives recklessly, molests women and generally lives it up with impunity. And because the natural and necessary fear of consequences has been unwisely removed from his life, he falls that much more easily to the temptations of his lower nature.

For millions of people, Christianity has become a bumper-sticker religion. Simply by saying, one time, a single phrase - "I accept Jesus Christ as my savior and repent of my sins" - you are guaranteed salvation and eternal life in heaven, no matter how insincere or selfish or shallow your motives for doing so. Is this the kind of salvation Jesus referred to when He said,

(Matthew 24:vs.13--KJV)
"But he that shall endure unto the end,
the same shall be saved."

Endure to the end? What's with that?
I thought this salvation thing was all
settled by that altar call back in '89.




Is this what He meant when He said,



(John 15:10)

If ye keep My commandments, ye shall
abide in my love; even as I have kept
My Father's commandments, and abide
in His love....

Many Christians don't bother to pay any attention at all to God's commandments. Hey, what the heck difference does it make? I'm already saved!

Is this what Paul referred to when he said, "I die daily"? (1 Cor. 15:31) The apostle's poignant and intensely meaningful reference to the duty of man to give up the life of pride in all its forms, to die to the "carnal mind" - considered central to Christians of past eras - is all but absent from most of today's churches.
Christianity - the deepest, most meaningful and awe-inspiring religion ever, the magnificent driving force behind Western Civilization, and the transcendent hope of mankind's future - has been dumbed down by these types into a comic-book religion. Turn on your radio and listen to some of the pitches: "Do you want to go to Hell - forever? Well, think about this: What if it really is true that Jesus is the Son of God, and that He is the only way to eternal life in Heaven? Do you want to miss out on eternal life? Then why not say yes to Jesus right now, just to make sure? You'll like it it's a natural high."

Such altar calls are little more than an insurance pitch. "Hey, buy a little extra insurance, then you can go on with your selfish life and be guaranteed a place in Heaven no matter what."

Just repeat the salvation "formula" - like an Eastern mantra - and you're saved. Period.

For this type of Christian, there's no need to do good works, because they're saved by grace, not works. No need to obey God's commands, because they're already saved, so why bother? They don't need to try to help make it a better world, because they're gonna be "raptured" soon and the rest of the suckers who are left behind can sort out the mess.

Is it any wonder the West is dying?

What's missing in all of this, of course, is a love of truth.
(Matthew 15:vs.8--KJV)
This people draweth nigh unto Me with their mouth, and honoureth Me with their lips; but their heart is far from Me," said Jesus.

Truth predates the incarnation of Christ, it predates the Bible. It's the substance of our bond with God. If you have a love of truth, you're just not ever really satisfied with anything else, and you want to know the truth about everything - especially about yourself. If you're wrong about something, you want to know it. If you've been living a lie, you're willing to see it - no matter what the cost.

If you don't have a little bit of this quality, you don't have squat - even if you call yourself a Christian.

A little bit of TRUTH?-NO--NO--NO--IF WE are NOT consumed with--Ever striving for--Refuse to accept or settle for anything Less than ABSOLUTE TRUTH WE are nothing more than "Hypocrites"!!!
^{^added by Shadow2-aka--Gary}^^^^


To a truth-seeking soul, the story of Christ - not as told by a plastic minister, but as told by someone, anyone, who's real - has an internal reverberation of truth in the listener's soul. It has the quality of a wonderful old story you heard long ago, in your childhood, but had forgotten.

At the core of this life-changing religion is the individual believer's love and appreciation and acceptance and embrace of Christ's sacrifice - the ultimate demonstration of God's love for His wayward children.
But the problem with the way Christianity is "taught" today is that it doesn't require a love of truth. It doesn't require honest introspection, or courage, or self-denial, or patience. The only ingredient it needs is a guilty person who's sick of feeling guilty, who wants relief, wants to feel better about himself and doesn't want to go to Hell. But even the most insincere person wants to feel better about himself, wants relief from guilt, and fears death and what may lie beyond.



So, it's this compartmentalization and trivialization of Christianity - into a mantra of belief - but separated from works, from obedience to God's laws, and even more fundamentally, separated from basic honesty, integrity, love of truth and true repentance, that has ushered in a generation of shallow and ineffectual Christians.

Did you ever wonder why American founders like Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin completely rejected institutional Christianity - what some call "Churchianity"? Maybe even back then too many of the churches were just too pale a reflection of Christ's true message for them to stomach.

The Christian Church in America needs a revival. But it doesn't necessarily need ever-bigger tents with tens of thousands of people swaying back and forth, singing songs, giving speeches and getting pumped up - and then going home and watching television.

America's real revival will happen when those same people go home, go to their room, close the door, take a deep breath and take a good, long, hard look at themselves in the mirror. And then, quietly and humbly and fervently, they ask the living God for help, for insight, for direction - for salvation.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:20 pm
Have you considered the way of Throbbism?
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:26 pm
what is Throbbism?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:27 pm
You will learn of it in the fullness of time.....
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:30 pm
Quote:
Is it any wonder the West is dying?

Weve had a good drenching winter rain this year, so I dont think Id say "Dying". There are some areas that are a bit dry but we usuallyput casinos in them spots.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:33 pm
Is there a source for that screed? I've seen CG's other posts, and she couldn't have written it...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:33 pm
Onward Christian so-oldiers
Marching as to war
With the sign of Mamon ($)
Going on before . . .


Why wait for pie in the sky by and by when you die . . . send me $20, and i will guarantee your salvation. Beautifully engraved certificates of salvation will be provided for group orders of 100 or more.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:35 pm
You need to be on one of those cable stations, Setanta. Like the Trinity Broadcasting Network. You can be godly there--and rake in a lotta cash...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:43 pm
Show me the money ! ! !

Ahem, i mean, show me a sign Oh Lord, to know if the wisdom of D'art is just . . .
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:45 pm
I'm guessing CG doesn't consider theft un-Christian.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:47 pm
http://www.bereanpublishers.com/Important_Issues/abandonment_theology.htm


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Editor's note: The preceding column is part of the eye-opening August issue of WorldNetDaily's acclaimed monthly Whistleblower magazine. Subscribe to Whistleblower, beginning with the August issue, "THE NEW PAGANISM: How Christianity is being replaced by 'green' religion, goddess worship, globalism."



Nice bit of thievery, CG.

I think ya need to go and repent.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:48 pm
Perhaps the biggest threat to Christianity is not the heathens but instead are the evangelicals that claim to know everything that is true about Christianity.

When a group requires that you agree completely with them or not be part of that group it tends to drive people away in droves. Why on earth would I claim to be Christian if it requires that I think irrationally, support things that have been proven to be not true, hate gays just because,.... etc, etc, etc.....

Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have done more to destroy Christianity in this country than any one else I can think of.

The only thing Christians have lost in this country is the right to believe what they want to believe without someone telling them they aren't Christian for doing so. This won't be over until 180 million Christians stand up and tell the 20 million Evangelicals to "GO TO HELL."
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gutenscott
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:49 pm
I think true Christianity is a lot more likely to flourish in a culture where it no longer holds power, where it also no longer feels to need to lay itself upon the procrustean bed of objective scientific enquiry. Most of all, a Christianity which realizes it is not the norm or standard of the culture in which it exist is much more likely to realize it's true mission of spreading the Gospel, not unifying morality. Luther said, "The Kingdom is to be in the midst of your enemies. And he who will not suffer this does not want to be of the Kigndom of Christ; he wants to be among friends, to sit among roses and lilies, not with the bad people but the devout people. O you blasphemers and betrayers of Christ! If Christ had done what you are doing who would ever have been spared?"
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 01:49 pm
here is a link to one piece
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 02:03 pm
Re: America's Christian Population Decreasing
I love this.

ConstitutionalGirl wrote:
John W. Chalfant .... noting the 1947
Supreme Court decision that invented the modern
"separation of church and state"

Once God was shown the door,America went into chaos.
Scholastic Aptitude Test scores plummeted. Violent crime
rocketed upward. The abortion mills did an unprecedented
business as they devised ever-more-sadistic ways to kill
children before and even during birth. Bill Clinton, elected
president of the United States in 1992, aggressively
advocated homosexuality, which God calls "abomination." .


Damn that nefarious Supreme Court, I wonder why any god fearing christian would ever want to serve on it.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 02:04 pm
As the Farmerman is fond of saying . . .

Git a rope ! ! !
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 02:13 pm
Free copies of Mr. Chalfant's book are available

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To obtain this resource, our gift to you when you give a gift of any amount, please call us toll-free at 1-888-xxx-xxxx.


Check out the fine folks at Coral Ridge Ministries.

Cool


http://www.coralridge.org/impact/2004_jan_pg5.htm
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yitwail
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 02:20 pm


thanks, husker. that looks like the original article. but i'm confused by the banner at the bottom advertising a precious metal trading firm, Swiss America Trading Corporation. i clicked on it, and they quoted Pat Boone. is it Christian to be accumulating precious metals?
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 02:28 pm
Sounds a bit too angry to really be Christian. If you are truly Christian you do not make judgment about others. You really do not seem Christian to me - just prejudiced.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2005 02:29 pm
Re: America's Christian Population Decreasing
ConstitutionalGirl wrote:
Did you ever wonder why American founders like Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin completely rejected institutional Christianity . . .
NOPE!
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