This is another of your silly fantasies.
There are lots of countries with National Healthcare that don't have a border wall. Take Canada for example.
Great! You solved it then!
Can we open the government now?
If national healthcare and employment restrictions function as a border wall, why does the GOP oppose them?
Quote:If national healthcare and employment restrictions function as a border wall, why does the GOP oppose them?
Why don't you tell us why does the GOP oppose national healthcare.
I can't speak for others, but I figured out years ago that national healthcare and other welfare state benefits were the excuse many Europeans use to resent immigration.
We've got here in Germany a mandatory healthcare system (actually since 1881). I've never heard that it can be used to resent immigration.
Can you help me and tell, how that would work?
Sure, it's simple. Talk to people who live as citizens in welfare states such as those in Scandinavia and western Europe and listen to people complain about immigrants and then ask them why can't people just be free to migrate where they want to live, and then listen to them explain how they have very good welfare states, but that they don't have the ability to take care of everyone in the world who wants to come there.
Since I live, have relatives in Sweden and Austria I talkquite a bit with people living. Additionally to people in the Netherlands, the UK and France, where I have auqaintances.
Certain people really talk about that like you say - but your question is about healthcare and not social benefits.
So when people in the US are calling for socialized healthcare and/or other welfare benefits, they are implicitly calling for non-citizens to be excluded; and thus for a wall. If they didn't want a wall, they would support a de-socialized free market system where healthcare and everything else that welfare states provide are achievable without government intervention, and then non-citizens would be free to participate in that economy and achieve their own healthcare, etc. with their own effort/labor/productivity.
I disagree that healthcare can be called "national benefits" since people pay for it, be it via taxes (like in Sweden or the UK) or with "premiums" (payed equally by employer and employee) like here in Germany.
Since I don't know the concept of "socialized healthcare" especially not the one the USA, you might be right.
We've got here a constitutional (via our Basic Law, article 2, 2, 2 and article 20, 1) entitlement to health care, "social", not "socialised" ("Germany is a democratic and social federal state." Basic Law, article 20.)
So what do you understand the difference between 'social' and 'socialized' to mean then?e Wall" where you live?
Individual, self-pay health care would mean that providers would set prices and individuals would pay the price or seek another provider.
Some people and doctors/dentists/etc. operate as independent individuals, but many are enrolled in some kind of insurance/group-plan and many providers work with such plans because they can get more patients/work by doing so.
Still, such providers are free to take other clients without insurance, but then the question is what they charge and/or how much certain wealthy patients will pay out-of-pocket to gain favoritism.
Nearly all accept all insurance companies - those who only accept private insurance companies are either working in retirement, or have some legal reason(s) not to have got the licence from the mandatory health insurers.
Until a couple of years ago, we had had more than 3,000 mandatory health insurance companies, some only open regionally, others only for certain professions, others for company employees ....
This is reduced now to about 200, open for everyone everywhere in Germany. They have to take everyone, independent of his personal health situation, gender, age etc.
So what happens if a tourist without insurance receives health care? How do they bill the individual? Or does some general fund get billed for anyone who is uninsured for whatever reason?
And what is the penalty if you fail to enroll in and pay for health insurance? Is there a fine? Do you have the option to just not enroll in an insurance plan year after year and just keep paying the fine? Are there plans that are very affordable/cheap? Do they cover less? What is the difference between different insurance plans?
When you are in the mandatory health insurance, you can't fail to pay for it: the fee is deducted from your wage, salary, pension or whatever money you get.
Mandatory health insurers deliver all the same, plus some gimmicks by this one or the other. (For instance, I get money back, when I dp the prevention check-ups, get paid a certain percentage of the fees for fitness courses)