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Sexual Tensions

 
 
BoGoWo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 08:28 am
Bella Dea wrote:
Let's just all get drunk and screw.


I'm up for that!

[oops did i get a bit mixed up here?]
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 08:29 am
spendius wrote:
Bella:-

Right on.That's the ticket.

Ever read Opus Pistorum?


it's a corollory to the Kama Sutra!???
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 08:39 am
BoGoWo wrote:
spendius wrote:
Bella:-

Right on.That's the ticket.

Ever read Opus Pistorum?


it's a corollory to the Kama Sutra!???


Shocked
oh.... Very Happy
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 08:46 am
but then, why waste time 'reading' in a situation like this?

[i find that i have trouble reading with my pants off! Rolling Eyes Shocked ]
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 08:48 am
BoGoWo:-

Rest and recuperation and renewal.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 08:55 am
Bella:-

I wouldn't say a corollory.The KS is quite tiresome and has little humour.In fact it is po-faced.It is also MCP in no trumps.
Saint Henry's Opus is not a bit of the same kit.As one would expect of course.
They won't have it in the library though.You might get arrested for asking about it.
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 08:58 am
being acronymically challenged, i have trouble with MCP; and po-faced also catches me a touch 'off guard'.

[could these be 'Briticisms'?]
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:00 am
Book

It's on sale.... Shocked Very Happy I may have to invest.....
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:03 am
Bella:-

How much are they?I have ten brand new hardbacks.I give them out,signed by me,to very special friends.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:05 am
BoGoWo:-

Male chauvinist pig.

Po-faced?er..erCalvin.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:08 am
spendius wrote:
Bella:-

How much are they?I have ten brand new hardbacks.I give them out,signed by me,to very special friends.


They are $10 but in paperback.
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:09 am
spendius wrote:
BoGoWo:-
Male chauvinist pig.
Po-faced?er..erCalvin.


ouch; i thought i had hidden it well!

[oh,.........MCP.........oh, ...........yeh!]
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:09 am
Sorry ladies.I must take my leave for today,I really must.
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:11 am
spendius wrote:
Sorry ladies.I must take my leave for today,I really must.


[looks like i 'really' hid my MCP well!]
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:45 am
Its worth a read if you're a Henry Miller fan, Bella - though despite persistent misattribution, it was not written by Miller, but by a freind of his, the self-styled Caresse Crosby. Usin' the characters and settin's from Miller's Tropic of Cancer, Crosby cranked out the piece essentially on commission for a wealthy Anerican pornography collector. Miller not only knew of the deception, but originated and participated in it.

The history behind the commercial knock-off is the most interestin' thing about it, really. Crosby, descended from New England's original Pilgrims, was a major figure in the New York/Paris literary scene, and an abosolutely fascinatin' broad in her own right.

First published in the 1980s by Grove Press as a posthumous Miller under the original title Opus Pistorum, later editions bore the title Under the Roofs of Paris. Actually its a parody of Miller, something entirely lost on lotsa folks who shoulda known better.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 09:47 am
never read anything of his....just thought it looked...um, interesting....
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2005 04:59 am
Timber:-

I'm not the type to question your obvious knowledge and I know all about the points you raise.
Having said that I have studied the style of Opus and Miller's other books,some of which are pretty dire and I'll allow what you say.I wouldn't have done had you missed out Miller's part in the project.
A lot of great artists,and Miller was that,use apprentices for the easy bits.
I would say that the book is more enjoyable and more instructive when read assuming Miller wrote it and,after all is said and done,that's the aim when reading a book don't you think? The Gospels are subject to the same criticism as are large parts of Mr Bush's speeches.I only mentioned it in response to Bella's remark which was Milleresque.

Have you ever read Miller's description of meeting Frank Harris or Dylan's description of meeting Miller in Big Sur.Have you read Frank Harris?Miller met Orwell in Paris when the latter was on his way to Spain to fight.

Regards.

"If **** had value the poor wouldn't have arseholes."Henry Miller.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2005 07:04 am
spendius wrote:


"If **** had value the poor wouldn't have arseholes."Henry Miller.


Shocked Laughing Laughing

Oh my...I am so gonna use that one...! Laughing
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2005 07:12 am
Bella:-

Yep-It's a killer is that one.Saves so much time and energy.
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Satyr
 
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Reply Thu 7 Apr, 2005 07:45 am
spendius wrote:
Satyr:-

You suspect me of trying a psychological gelding do you?
Well-we could do with a little of that.Have you not noticed how the eager ones ruin it for the rest of us.
A tendency to celibacy would make the cunning ones pause for thought.They sure do run rings around those who chase them too hard.Playing hard to get is all very well but it gets difficult to sustain in the face of a degree of insouciance and if we
banded together and ridiculed the rate-busters we may well get our cake and eat it at prices which would leave something over for other things such as beer and fags and gambling.
Celibacy is not to be sneered at.I know that the cunning ones will do that.They would wouldn't they.
When a man sneers at it it is obvious he is under tutelage.Women respect resistance and whatever they may say they are contemptuous of clingers and "yes-my-loves".Of course,as you pointed out somewhere,one has to make oneself attractive to them to pull it off.You could have then clawing at your trouser legs if you are good enough and that can't be bad now can it?
Just look at the plight of the "rushers" after a year or two.It's pitiful.I know dozens who can't even smoke in the house that they have slaved to pay for.But they can breathe the fumes out of tins of paint and skin their knuckles on their Black and Decker Workmates.Ask anybody who works in Casualty what type of sadness regularly appears at their receptions on a fine weekend.Quite a few lifeless or on stretchers and quite a lot broken and bleeding.And they are all skint.
Think about it mate.Chavs are not as daft as they look.
There is a minimum cost to procreation, a necessary display of fitness or of a willingness to be a provider so as to enjoy the rewards.

There was always a much too high cost to benefit ratio for me to become overly involved.
I couldn't justify the behaviour given the end result or the ephemeral benefits.

Any union requires a loss of individuality or a suppression of self.
The willingness and the need to unite are proportional to the individual's sense of self-worth and character.

The interesting thing is that indifference is also the definition of confidence.
Power attracts even if it is in the form of self-discipline.
Confidence is a form of indifference concerning specific instances, being certain that other opportunities will be taken advantage of or totally unconcerned if any will.

timberlandko
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Its worth a read if you're a Henry Miller fan, Bella - though despite persistent misattribution, it was not written by Miller, but by a freind of his, the self-styled Caresse Crosby. Usin' the characters and settin's from Miller's Tropic of Cancer, Crosby cranked out the piece essentially on commission for a wealthy Anerican pornography collector. Miller not only knew of the deception, but originated and participated in it.

The history behind the commercial knock-off is the most interestin' thing about it, really. Crosby, descended from New England's original Pilgrims, was a major figure in the New York/Paris literary scene, and an abosolutely fascinatin' broad in her own right.

Interesting.
I should read it then.

watchmakers guidedog
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Is that all that this was? I had hoped it was going to go further. Maybe discuss a little further what needs to be done or where we go on from that point. If that's all this was then I can live with the dissapointment, I'd just hoped that there was something further to this discussion. Mea culpes.
Then maybe you should contribute an on-topic opinion.
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