Real Music
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2019 09:31 pm
(Christianity Today) calls for Donald Trump's removal from office following impeachment.



Published December 19, 2019

Quote:
One of the nation's top Christian magazine publications called for the removal of President Trump on Thursday, one day after the House of Representatives passed two articles of impeachment against him.

In an editorial titled "Trump Should Be Removed From Office," (Christianity Today) editor-in-chief Mark Galli invoked the mission of the magazine's founder, Billy Graham, to "help evangelical Christians interpret the news in a manner that reflects their faith."

"We want (Christianity Today) to be a place that welcomes Christians from across the political spectrum, and reminds everyone that politics is not the end and purpose of our being," Galli wrote. "That said, we do feel it necessary from time to time to make our own opinions on political matters clear—always, as Graham encouraged us, doing so with both conviction and love. We love and pray for our president, as we love and pray for leaders (as well as ordinary citizens) on both sides of the political aisle."

Galli acknowledged that Democrats "have had it out for [Trump] from day one" and that the president "did not have a serious opportunity to offer his side of the story" during the impeachment process.

However, "the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral," Galli said.

He explained, "The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration. He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused."

Democrats said Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate the dealings of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter in that country, withholding aid for a time as part of a "quid-pro-quo." Trump and the White House repeatedly have denied doing anything wrong.

Galli recalled a (Christianity Today) piece written in 1998 during then-President Clinton's impeachment, reading, "Unsavory dealings and immoral acts by the president and those close to him have rendered this administration morally unable to lead."

"Unfortunately, the words that we applied to Mr. Clinton 20 years ago apply almost perfectly to our current president," Galli continued. "Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election—that is a matter of prudential judgment. That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments."

The Christianity Today editor-in-chief urged his readers to remind themselves "you are and whom you serve," warning them by asking "will anyone take anything we say about justice and righteousness with any seriousness for decades to come" if they don't "reverse course" with their support of Trump.

"We have reserved judgment on Mr. Trump for years now. Some have criticized us for our reserve... To use an old cliché, it’s time to call a spade a spade, to say that no matter how many hands we win in this political poker game, we are playing with a stacked deck of gross immorality and ethical incompetence," Galli wrote. "Just when we think it’s time to push all our chips to the center of the table, that’s when the whole game will come crashing down. It will crash down on the reputation of evangelical religion and on the world’s understanding of the gospel. And it will come crashing down on a nation of men and women whose welfare is also our concern."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/christianity-today-trump-removal-impeachment
0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  1  
Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2019 09:48 pm
(Christianity Today) editor responds to Donald Trump’s attack.


A leading Christian magazine founded by late evangelist Billy Graham published an op-ed calling for President Donald Trump to be removed from office and urging evangelicals not to support him.


Published December 20, 2019

0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  1  
Reply Thu 26 Dec, 2019 09:20 am
Rev. William Barber on relationship between evangelical movement and Trump.

Reverend William Barber discusses with Chris Hayes what Evangelical support for Trump really looks like.


Aired: December 23, 2019

0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  1  
Reply Tue 2 Jun, 2020 08:42 am
Donald Trump criticized by religious leaders after protesters forcefully
removed for President's (photo opportunity).



Published June 1, 2020


Quote:
Protesters have been cleared from a park by tear gas, moments before US President Donald Trump marched through to a Washington DC church.

The forced removable of demonstrators from Lafayette Park, allowed Donald Trump to stage a walk to St John's Church following an address at the White House.

Moments before Mr Trump's address, US Secret Service agents, Park Police and National Guardsmen suddenly marched forward, directly confronting the protesters as many held up their hands, saying, "don’t shoot".

Law-enforcement officers then aggressively forced the protesters back, firing tear gas and deploying flash bangs into the crowd to disperse them from the park for seemingly no reason.

The park was cleared for the President, who walked through it minutes later to the church, for a photo opportunity in which he posed with a Bible.

Mr Trump, standing alone in front of cameras, raised the black-covered Bible for reporters to see.

"We have a great country," Mr Trump said. "Greatest country in the world."

Religious leaders slam Trump's 'lack of compassion'

The Right Reverend Mariann Budde, bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, to which St John’s belongs, said she was "outraged" by the moment and noted that Mr Trump didn't pray during his visit.

"He took the symbols sacred to our tradition and stood in front of a house of prayer in full expectation that it would be a celebratory moment," Rev Budde told The Associated Press.

"There was nothing I could do but speak out against that."

Rev Budde said the church was "just completely caught off-guard" by the visit, with "no sense that this was a sacred space to be used for sacred purposes".

In order to facilitate Mr Trump's statement there, she said, she believed tear gas was used in the area between the White House and the church.

Rabbi Jack Moline, the president of Interfaith Alliance, slammed the fact peaceful protesters near the White House were gassed and shot with rubber bullets so Mr Trump could hold his photo opportunity.

"Seeing President Trump stand in front of St John’s Episcopal Church while holding a Bible in response to calls for racial justice — right after using military force to clear peaceful protesters out of the area — is one of the most flagrant misuses of religion I have ever seen," Rabbi Moline said in a statement.

"This only underscores the President's complete lack of compassion for Black Americans and the lethal consequences of racism."

Biden, Pelosi, call clearing of Lafayette Park a disgrace

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden accused the President of "using the American military against the American people".

"He tear-gassed peaceful protesters and fired rubber bullets. For a photo," he tweeted.

Meanwhile. US Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, said the actions against protesters were a dishonor to "every value that faith teaches us".

Officers withdrawn from Washington DC

Police officers from Arlington, Virginia, which borders Washington DC, have been withdrawn from the national capital.

In a statement released to media on Monday night local time, administrators and the police chief ordered their officers to cross the Potomac River and return to Arlington.

An arrangement between Arlington and Washington DC, allowed the Virgina-based officers to police the city, however the safety concerns led to the withdrawal.

"At the direction of the County Board, County Manager and Police Chief, all ACPD officers left the District of Columbia at 8:30 tonight," the statement read.

"The County is re-evaluating the agreements that allowed our officers to be put in a compromising position that endangered their health and safety, and that of the people around them, for a purpose not worthy of our mutual aid obligations."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/george-floyd-protesters-tear-gassed-trump-photo-opportunity/12311628
0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Tue 2 Jun, 2020 10:41 pm
Bishop OUTRAGED at Trump
for using her church for a (Photo Op).



0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Wed 21 Oct, 2020 10:25 am
Not Our Faith Senior Advisor On Declining Evangelical Support For Trump.

A bipartisan group of Religious leaders have joined forces for a new PAC called Not Our Faith. Their goal: peeling off the president's support from evangelical voters. Michael Wear, a senior adviser to Not Our Faith PAC and a former faith adviser in President Obama’s Administration, joins MSNBC’s Craig Melvin to share an exclusive first look at their new ad targeting evangelical voters and to discuss the declining level of support from evangelical voters this election season.

Aired on 10/20/2020.

0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Mon 8 Mar, 2021 12:11 pm
Ask Pastor John Episodes:
Why I Abominate the Prosperity ‘Gospel’


0 Replies
 
bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 8 Mar, 2021 11:14 pm
@Real Music,
Learn actual history.

Not the "history" taught by leftist professors.

The Democratic party was (and is, though they'll pretend that the parties "switched") the slave party.

https://ammo.com/articles/jim-crow-laws-democrat-party-century-of-racist-history

"But! but!" you say, "What about the Equal Rights Amendment?" What about it? They'll successfully corrupted equal rights so that most black vote the way they want them to, claiming they are protecting their civil rights. Huh, isn't that funny? So ummm why do most of them wind up collecting welfare? It's because things like African Studies have given them a chip on their shoulder and no marketable skills. Teach blacks agriculture, engineering, architecture, anything at all but how to protest, and they actually come out of college able to earn something. Given them a BS major, (not the Bachelor of Science) and they are saddled with debt and wind up flipping burgers their entire lives.

They vote Democrat, or expect to starve.
Leadfoot
 
  1  
Reply Tue 9 Mar, 2021 05:40 am
@bulmabriefs144,
Even if you’re right, It’s not all about politics.
0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Sat 21 May, 2022 06:21 pm
Religious extremists mix Trump worship with Christian nationalism.


Mehdi Hasan looks at how religious extremists in the Christian nationalist movement have cast
Donald Trump as a messianic figure and threaten to make democracy secondary to empowering
Donald Trump
as an expression of divine will.


Published May 20, 2022


0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Sat 21 May, 2022 06:40 pm
Pro-Trump evangelical Kenneth Copeland laughs manically over media calling Biden's win.

US Televangelist Kenneth Copeland has laughed at the media for calling the election for Mr Biden.

“The media said Joe Biden is President,” said Mr Copeland, followed by a chorus of laughter.
His followers then joined in with the evangelical Christian leader.


Published November 9, 2020


0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Sat 21 May, 2022 07:07 pm
Pastor sparks controversy with rhetoric about Dems, Christianity.


Published May 18, 2022

By Steve Benen


Quote:
By most measures, Greg Locke was already a controversial Christian pastor. The Washington Post recently published a profile on him, his church in Tennessee, and his millions of online followers.

As the Post put it, Locke’s critics make the case that he’s “spreading a dangerous message of hate that is taking root in some conservative churches.” The same report noted that his ministry has also divided his community outside Nashville, especially after Locke held a book-burning event where he and followers threw copies of the “Harry Potter” and “Twilight” series and Disney merchandise into a giant bonfire.

Locke was also on the steps of the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection, a day after speaking at a pro-Trump rally where he reportedly delivered “one of the clearest and most violent prayers of the day.” The Post added that the pastor has also blessed the members of the right-wing Proud Boys from his pulpit, and relied on its members to provide “security.”

It was against this backdrop that Newsweek took note of an especially memorable sermon Locke delivered earlier this week, which might make him even more controversial.

Ahead of a Monday anti-abortion rally in front of the Supreme Court in Washington D.C., right-wing Pastor Greg Locke told his Tennessee congregation “you ain’t seen an insurrection yet” ... The Global Vision Bible Church pastor made the provocative statement during a sermon in Mt. Juliet, near Nashville, on Sunday. During the sermon, the pro-Trump pastor railed against Democrats who he said could not be Christians if they supported abortion rights.

A video of Locke’s tirade has made the rounds via social media — as of this morning, it’s been viewed on Twitter 2 million times — and it’s worth watching if only to appreciate just how enthusiastic the pastor is about his message.

If you vote Democrat, I don’t even want you around this church. You can get out. You can get out, you demon,” Locke declared. “You cannot be a Christian and vote Democrat in this nation. I don’t care how mad that makes you. You can get as pissed off as you want to. You cannot be a Christian and vote Democrat in this nation.... You cannot be a Democrat and a Christian. You cannot. Somebody say, ‘Amen.’ The rest of you get out! Get out!

As part of the same rant, the pastor added, “I ain’t playin’ your stupid games.... I’m sick of it. Everyone wanna talk about the insurrection? Mmmm. Let me tell you something: You ain’t seen the insurrection yet. You keep on pushing our buttons, you low-down, sorry compromisers, you God-hating communists, maybe you’ll find out what an insurrection is.”

Clearly, there’s a lot to unpack with a message like this, raising questions about theology, Christian nationalism, and the prospect of religio-political violence. But there’s also a legal question.

As regular readers may recall, under federal tax law, tax-exempt houses of worship are not allowed to intervene in partisan politics. Ministries can obviously speak out on moral and spiritual issues of the day, and they can get involved in ballot referenda related to various policies, but churches and other houses of worship can’t take steps to help (or hurt) candidates or political parties.

This law was created in 1954, thanks to the efforts of then-Sen. Lyndon Johnson, and for the most part, it wasn’t especially controversial — that is, until the religious right political movement started pushing for the law’s repeal, as part of a larger effort to further politicize faith communities.

In fact, Donald Trump was so eager to curry favor with social conservatives that he repeatedly boasted that he’d repealed the law, despite the fact that this never actually happened.

All of which leaves us with a question: Did Locke go too far when he delivered a partisan sermon? Can the pastor of a tax-exempt church tell his followers that Democratic voters are demons who are unwelcome in his congregation?

The folks at Americans United for Separation of Church and State, whom I know well, this week urged the IRS to launch an investigation. Rachel Laser, the group’s president, wrote in a complaint to the agency, “Now, when our democracy is threatened by white Christian nationalism like never before, the IRS must investigate blatant Johnson Amendment violations like Locke’s remarks and enforce the federal law that protects the integrity of both our elections and our houses of worship by ensuring nonprofits don’t engage in partisan politics.”

Whether the IRS will take an interest in the matter remains to be seen. Watch this space.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/pastor-sparks-controversy-rhetoric-dems-christianity-rcna29442
0 Replies
 
PoliteMight
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 27 May, 2022 08:12 pm
@Real Music,
You want to talk about the truth ?

Jewish Money Lenders

That is the truth. You they have been at war even before any of us have been born. Jews v. the Roman Empire. After Christ the Romans slowly adopted the Judaism/Islam god and called it Catholicism. Then came the fight for the religious freedoms as fractions of this belief system started internal wars.

King of England and Czars of Russia went up against them and was met with assassination attempts.

When it came to the new-world, even Columbus was affected by these money-lenders. Who literally put him into jail and made him die a poor broke man.

Even the whole New Jersey was not a myth. However the whole fight for the central bank against Andrew Jackson was another fight.

............

The real reason why we had the US-civil-war was because those farmers, slave-owners did not get paid for the lost of their property. That being said the same property ( freed slaves ) now was in another pickle.

Indentured servitude,
neo-slavery
segregation
and eventually Jim-crow.

That being said the Republican ( AKA Whig + Central Banking Party ) was really creating

A NEW LOWER-CLASS. AKA ( poor southern farmers and land-owners ). AKA the creation of trailer trash, and pro-gun owners, to just about anything they could deem value to recover the losses. Even Walt Disney took advantage of them to create his ideal community via the poverty stricken south. To even now how most Disney movies are shot in Mississippi today.

........................

The real origin of the dumb religious right is that

1. Not to pay the bills of hip-hop heads.
2. To keep out the Latinos, and Islamic POW ( dishonoring POW rights ).
3. To keep their wives and daughters from leaving them because all it takes is the ability to earn money.
4. To constantly use Abortion and LGBT as a reason to be Republican when in reality that has nothing to do with it at all.

Orthodox Jews are clearly Republican.
Police and firemen to various are republican.
Their stay-at-home wives are republican by means of lack of income.

It is an entire system to promote this creation of lower-class white people while also including any non-Europeans at all.

.....................................................................................................................

Yes you want to say Red China wants to promote Democracy and spending because of the debt on US. Again Red China is the same reason why we went through two years ( and still in ) of pro-virus. It is the reason why the economy went down. It is the reason for the anti-vaxxers being denied work. Despite people who have gotten fake vaccination cards out there just to make ends meat.

Great so you like Republican just remember the stupid we had to endure via the Trump presidency. The sad fact he won because she ran. Nobody wanted Hillary and everyone wanted Bernie Sanders. No we had to have the lesbian witch.
0 Replies
 
bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 16 Jun, 2022 09:45 pm
@Real Music,
You have no idea what you're talking about.

The left has been the party of the KKK since its onset.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dinesh-dsouza-the-secret-history-of-the-democratic-party
Quote:
Contrary to what we learn from progressives in education and the media, the history of the Democratic Party well into the twentieth century is a virtually uninterrupted history of thievery, corruption and bigotry. American history is the story of Democratic malefactors and Republican heroes. Yes, it’s true.

I begin with Andrew Jackson. He—not Thomas Jefferson or FDR—is the true founder of the modern Democratic Party. Progressives today are divided about Jackson. Some, like historian Sean Wilentz, admire him, while others want to remove him from the $20 bill because he was a slaveowner and a vicious Indian fighter. He was, in this view, a very bad American.

I support the debunking of Jackson, but not because he was a bad American—rather, because he was a typical crooked Democrat. Jackson established the Democratic Party as the party of theft. He mastered the art of stealing land from the Indians and then selling it at giveaway prices to white settlers. Jackson’s expectation was that those people would support him politically, as indeed they did. Jackson was indeed a “man of the people,” but his popularity was that of a gang leader who distributes his spoils in exchange for loyalty on the part of those who benefit from his crimes.

Jackson also figured out how to benefit personally from his land-stealing. Like Hillary Clinton, he started out broke and then became one of the richest people in the country. How? Jackson and his partners and cronies made early bids on Indian land, sometimes even before the Indians had been evacuated from that land. They acquired the land for little or nothing and later sold it for a handsome profit. Remarkably, the roots of the Clinton Foundation can be found in the land-stealing policies of America’s first Democratic president.

The Democrats were also the party of slavery, and the slave-owning mentality continues to shape the policies of Democratic leaders today. The point isn’t that the Democrats invented slavery which is an ancient institution that far predates America. Rather, Democrats like Senator John C. Calhoun invented a new justification for slavery, slavery as a “positive good.” For the first time in history, Democrats insisted that slavery wasn’t just beneficial for masters; they said it was also good for the slaves.

Today progressive pundits attempt to conceal Democratic complicity in slavery by blaming slavery on the “South.” These people have spun a whole history that portrays the slavery battle as one between the anti-slavery North and the pro-slavery South. This of course benefits Democrats today, because today the Democratic Party’s main strength is in the north and the Republican Party’s main strength is in the South.

But the slavery battle was not mainly a North-South issue. It was actually a battle between the pro-slavery Democrats and the anti-slavery Republicans. How can I make such an outrageous statement? Let’s begin by recalling that northern Democrats like Stephen Douglas protected slavery, while most southerners didn’t own slaves. (Three fourths of those who fought in the civil war on the confederate side had no slaves and weren’t fighting to protect slavery.)

Republicans, meanwhile, to one degree or another, all opposed slavery. The party itself was founded to stop slavery. Of course there were a range of views among Republicans, from abolitionists who sought immediately to end slavery to Republicans like Abraham Lincoln who recognized that this was both constitutionally and politically impossible and focused on arresting slavery’s extension into the new territories. This was the main platform on which Lincoln won the 1860 election.

The real clash was between the Democrats, north and south, who supported slavery and the Republicans across the country who opposed it. As Lincoln summarized it in his First Inaugural Address, one side believes slavery is right and ought to be extended, and the other believes it is wrong and ought to be restricted. “This,” Lincoln said, “is the only substantial dispute.” And this, ultimately, was what the Civil War was all about.

In the end, of course, Republicans ended slavery and permanently outlawed it through the Thirteenth Amendment. Democrats responded by opposing the Amendment and a group of them assassinated the man they held responsible for emancipation, Abraham Lincoln. Republicans passed the Fourteenth Amendment securing for blacks equal rights under the law, and the Fifteenth Amendment giving blacks the right to vote, over the Democrats’ opposition.

Confronted with these irrefutable facts, progressives act like the lawyer who is presented with the murder weapon belonging to his client. Darn, he says to himself, I better think fast. “Yes,” he now admits, “my client did murder the clerk and rob the store. But he didn’t kill all those other people who were also found dead at the scene.”

In other words, progressives who are forced to acknowledge the Democratic Party’s pro-slavery history promptly respond, “We admit to being the party of slavery, and we did uphold the institution for more than a century, but slavery ended in 1865, so all of this was such a long time ago. You can’t blame us now for the antebellum wrongs of the Democratic Party.”

Yes, but what about the postbellum crimes of the Democratic Party? From Democratic support for slavery, let’s turn to the party’s complicity in segregation and the Ku Klux Klan. Democrats in the 1880s invented segregation and Jim Crow laws that lasted through the 1960s. Democrats also came up with the “separate but equal” rationale that justified segregation and pretended that it was for the benefit of African Americans.

The Ku Klux Klan was founded in 1866 in Pulaski, Tennessee by a group of former confederate soldiers; its first grand wizard was a confederate general who was also a delegate to the Democratic National Convention. The Klan soon spread beyond the South to the Midwest and the West and became, in the words of historian Eric Foner, “the domestic terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.”

The main point of the Klan’s orgy of violence was to prevent blacks from voting—voting, that is, for Republicans. Leading Democrats including at least one president, two Supreme Court justices, and innumerable Senators and Congressmen were Klan members. The last one, Robert Byrd, died in 2010 and was eulogized by President Obama and former President Bill Clinton.

The sordid history of the Democratic Party in the early twentieth century is also married to the sordid history of the progressive movement during the same period. Progressives like Margaret Sanger—founder of Planned Parenthood and a role model for Hillary Clinton—supported such causes as eugenics and social Darwinism. While abortion was not an issue in Sanger’s day, she backed forced sterilization for “unfit” people, notably minorities. Sanger’s Negro Project was specifically focused on reducing the black population.

Progressives also led the campaign to stop poor immigrants from coming to this country. They championed laws in the 1920s that brought the massive flows of immigration to this country to a virtual halt. The motives of the progressives were openly racist and and in the way the immigration restrictions were framed, progressives succeeded in broadening the Democratic Party’s target list of minority groups.

While the Democratic Party previously singled out blacks and native Indians, progressives showed Democrats how to suppress all minorities. Included in the new list were Central and South American Hispanics as well as Eastern and Southern Europeans. Many of these people were clearly white but progressives did not consider white enough. Like blacks, they were considered “unfit” on the basis of their complexion.

During the 1920s, progressives developed a fascination with and admiration for Italian and German fascism, and the fascists, for their part, praised American progressives. These were likeminded people who spoke the same language, and progressives and fascists worked together to implement programs to sterilize so-called mental defectives and “unfit” people, resulting subsequently in tens of thousands of forced sterilizations in America and hundreds of thousands in Nazi Germany.

During the 1930s, President Franklin D. Roosevelt sent members of his brain trust to Europe to study fascist economic programs, which he considered more advanced that anything his New Deal had implemented to date. FDR was enamored with Mussolini, whom he called the “admirable Italian gentleman.” Some Democrats even had a soft spot for Hitler: young JFK went to Germany before World War II and praised Hitler as a “legend” and blamed hostility to the Nazis as jealousy resulting from how much the Nazis had accomplished.

Yes, I know. Very little of this is known by people today because progressives have done such a good job of sweeping it all under the rug. This material is simply left out of the textbooks even though it is right there in the historical record. Some progressive pundits know about it, but they don’t want to talk about it.

Indeed many progressives have been working hard to come up with lies that can be passed off as facts. Progressives have a whole cultural contingent—Hollywood, the mainline media, the elite universities, even professional comedians—to peddle their propaganda. From the television show Madame Secretary to the front page of the New York Times to nightly quips by Stephen Colbert, the progressive bilge comes at us continually and relentlessly.

In this bogus narrative, Republicans are the bad guys because Republicans opposed the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 1960s. For progressive Democrats, the civil rights movement is the canonical event of American history. It is even more important than the American Revolution. Progressive reasoning is: we did this, so it must be the greatest thing that was ever done in America. Republicans opposed it, which makes them the bad guys.

The only problem is that Republicans were instrumental—actually indispensable—in getting the Civil Rights Laws passed. While Lyndon Johnson pushed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 with the backing of some northern Democrats, Republicans voted in far higher percentages for the bill than Democrats did. This was also true of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Neither would have passed with just Democratic votes. Indeed, the main opposition to both bills came from Democrats.

Interestingly enough the GOP is not merely the party of minority rights but also of women’s rights. Republicans included women’s suffrage in the party’s platform as early as 1896. The first woman elected to Congress was Republican Jeanette Rankin in 1916. That year represented a major GOP push for suffrage, and after the GOP regained control of Congress, the Nineteenth Amendment granting women’s suffrage was finally approved in 1919 and ratified by the states the following year.

The inclusion of women in the 1964 Civil Rights Act was, oddly enough, the work of group of racist, chauvinist Democrats. Led by Democratic Congressman Howard Smith of Virginia, this group was looking to defeat the Civil Rights Act. Smith proposed to amend the legislation and add “sex” to “race” as a category protected against discrimination.

Smith’s Democratic buddies roared with laughter when he offered his one-word amendment. They thought it would make the whole civil rights thing so ridiculous that no sane person would go along with it. One scholar noted that Smith’s amendment “stimulated several hours of humorous debate” among racist, chauvinist Democrats. But to their amazement, the amended version of the bill passed. It bears repeating that Republicans provided the margin of victory that extended civil rights protection both to minorities and to women.


When the left realized that everyone had them figured out, they acted like they were the supporters of civil rights, and all along, the right were slavers. But most of the anti-slave groups were part of the church. The church was called racist, and everyone bought the sham.

Second, you should read up on how abortion sets women up for exploitation. Any real advocate of women's rights understands that abortion is really about men. Their right to **** a woman and leave her as soon as she agrees to an abortion. It also is a right to abort mostly female children.
https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2017/02/18691/
Quote:
The exercise of power over the life of one’s offspring is not a new construct. In ancient Rome, for example, the paterfamilias, or family patriarch, maintained a legal right to dispose of children deemed unwanted or unfit after birth. Likewise, a widespread preference for male children has compelled parents in China and India to terminate the lives of their daughters for centuries. Gender-determination ultrasounds have been used more recently to terminate these lives prior to birth, but the brutal infanticide of daughters remains common.

What is startling about the “women’s rights” argument for abortion ubiquitous in modern Western culture is that it reframes the act of abortion as a means to women’s freedom, whereas historically it was, by and large, a reflection of male dominance.

The same questionable argument for abortion as a necessity for women’s freedom steered the majority opinion of Roe v. Wade. Justice Harry Blackmun found a right to abortion in an eisegetical reading of the Fourteenth Amendment. He concluded for the Court that a “right of personal privacy” could be found in the “penumbras” emanating from the Fourteenth Amendment, among other places, and that this right included a woman’s right to “terminate her pregnancy.”

Penning his concurrence with the majority decision of Roe v. Wade, Justice Potter Stewart said the Court had shown that “freedom of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life is one of the liberties protected by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.” The irony here is that the due process clause mandates that no person be deprived of life without the due process of law—a protection that, thanks to Roe, unborn children no longer enjoy.


Fun fact. Most children have been aborted than deaths from the bloodiest war.
hightor
 
  2  
Reply Fri 17 Jun, 2022 03:25 am
@bulmabriefs144,
Really. Dinesh D'Souza???




Really. The Witherspoon Institute???



You probably believe the earth is flat, too.
bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2022 11:01 pm
@hightor,
Yes, really, Dinesh D'Souza.

And I am not ashamed of the flat Earth. You must respect the flat Earth.


"Fact checkers" often have the exact bias that they accuse others of.

Let's ask Quora, since you don't respect ma boy Dinesh.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-so-many-people-keep-saying-the-KKK-was-a-leftist-organization-when-White-Supremacy-has-proven-on-more-than-one-occasion-to-be-on-the-far-right?share=1

Old Buzzard Keith wrote:

That because what’s “proven” is a damned lie.
The KKK were 100% Democrats.


K.A. Green-Wall wrote:

A2A. Because they were originally associated with the Democratic Party, specifically the southern branch thereof. Which was far right, mind you; but the people making the accusations in question aren’t known for troubling themselves with inconvenient facts (such as, for example, white supremacists being far more likely to vote Republican nowadays).

(Even people who think they switched sides admit that they used to be part of Democrats)

Dennis Martin wrote:

Because the KKK wrapped themselves in the American flag, but never represented true American ideals. The Constitution doesn't say we the white people of the United States. Slavery has never at any time in the country's history been the law of the entire country. There were free colonies and slave colonies. As a matter of fact, the first person to die in the American Revolution, Crispus Attucks, was working as a free merchant seaman in Boston, Massachusetts in 1770. Also, in case you didn't know, the leftist Nazi Party of Germany learned everything that they know about racism and segregation from the American Democratic Party.

The left likes to forget Crispus Attucks happened, pretending blacks had nothing to do with the Revolution, except "they were worried the king would take slavery away."

Common Sense wrote:

Just like Jan 6th were all Trump supporters, right?

(Touche!)

Steven Johnson wrote:
Because as a lifelong Southerner (AL-GA-TN), let me ASSURE you, EVERY Klansman I EVER met was a DEMOCRAT.

Fact: The KKK was STARTED by Southern DEMOCRATS, and for over 100 years, that has been their membership.

THE MEDIA LABELS ALL LEFT-WING VIOLENCE AS RIGHT-WING. Chairman Mao's Golden Rule.


Jerry Mc Kenna wrote:

The question is based on a false premise. People don’t call the KKK a leftist organization. Some modern conservatives say that the Nazi party was a left wing organization, so perhaps some people confuse the 2.

(Even people dubious of the claim, still admit the left has ties with other dubious organizations)

Thomas Steiner wrote:

Probably because so many people aren't ignorant of History. The Democrats wanted to keep slavery and after the Civil War the Democrats formed the k k k. Even progressives like Margaret Sanger gave speeches at KKK rallies. Of course the words Progressive and liberal have you come to me and exactly the opposite of what they originally meant. That might be the confusion

(I think you could probably verify this one by looking up "Margaret Sanger and KKK")
https://www.hli.org/resources/margaret-sanger-kkk/
Quote:
In Sanger’s work An Autobiography: A Fight for Birth Control, she writes about her experience at the KKK rally:

Always to me any aroused group was a good group, and therefore I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan….My address that night had to be in the most elementary terms, as though I were trying to make children understand. In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.

(Her own autobiography. Not convinced? Let's continue)

(Two people convinced they're right wing not left)

Eddie Pipes wrote:

Well, they do support democrats. And democrats founded it. Ask Hillary. She was close friends with that Byrd guy from the Klan. That should tell you all you need to know

https://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/js3ysR.jpg

(Then another person convinced it's right wing deflection)

Christian Palmer wrote:

The KKK was the terrorist arm of Southern Democrats. To be completely honest, the Republican Party has never changed its opinion on the relationship between race and government policy—there shouldn’t be one. The government should not govern based on race but should treat people as individuals. That’s how we felt when Lincoln formed the party, and that’s how we feel now.

True White Supremacy involves a belief that white people are inherently more capable than minorities (especially black people) and must therefore take responsibility for their outcomes. In the dark days of the Dixiecrat South, that involved owning black people because they saw them as savages who were not capable of managing their own affairs. Today, that same White Supremacy is expressed through Critical Race Theory, which has at its core the idea that black people cannot thrive without whites bending down or stepping aside somehow. If you cannot see the anti-black racism inherent in this view, you are willfully blind to it.

(Not to mention that blacks involved in CRT literally kill other blacks)

Dan Smith wrote:

The KKK was formed as the enforcement arm of the Democrat party, and Democrats still practice racism every day.


(Then two more people talking about right wing deflection, one of which says this:)

Joe Belkin wrote:
...But in the 1960’s when the Civil Rights laws were passed and the ending of Jim Crow, they switched parties.

(Sorry, but this was literally the scam. You were scammed into believing that the parties "switched". No, the same racist scumbags took credit for civil rights, branded their opponents racist, and sabotaged any gains for civil rights. Or have you never wondered why despite civil rights stuff, blacks always seem to wind up on welfare?)

Marcus Axel wrote:

By calling white supremacy ‘far right’, you’re re-writing history. White supremacy was so pervasive in society prior to the Civil Rights Movement, in the heyday of the KKK, it was neither left nor right. It was both and it was neither. Most white people were on board and hardly aware there was a problem. The country was nearly 90% ‘white’ in the early to mid 20th century. White supremacy was the norm.

I know liberals like to think of their tribe as a sort of religion that has always been moral and good, a centuries old fight against mean angry conservative bullies like Hitler and slave owners in the Old Confederacy. They end up re-writing history in their image. Not unlike the methods of white supremacy, the way history used to be ‘whitewashed’ back in the 1950s and beyond.

Liberals ignore the many sins of the left, or simply associate all of the nation’s sins with ‘the right’, while creating false narratives associating themselves with all of the good.

The reason that Republicans like to make fun of Democrats by associating them with the KKK is because most voters in the south were Democrats back in the day. It’s simply true, most KKK members were Democrats because most southerners were Democrats. It was a politics largely defined by love of FDR and post-Depression Era economic policy. Pro-labor, etc. It’s not like the Republican Party was the anti-racist party, but neither were the Democrats, that’s for sure.

‘Progressives’ do have a history of engaging in mental gymnastics, defining it as scholarship. They came up with eugenics after-all, and they used eugenics ‘science’ to justify ‘whites only’ immigration and labor policies. Ironically, they’re using neoracist Woke ‘science’ in a similar way in 2022. Social science can be as far removed from actual science as religion imo. It’s a soft science that gets it wrong over and over again, like categorizing homosexuality as a mental illness until the 1970s:

“Less well known is that a crude eugenic sorting of groups into deserving and
undeserving classes crucially informed the labor and immigration reform that is the hallmark of the Progressive Era (Leonard, 2003). Reform-minded economists of the Progressive Era defended exclusionary labor and immigration legislation on grounds that the labor force should be rid of unfit workers, whom they labeled “parasites,” “the unemployable,” “low-wage races” and the “industrial residuum.” Removing the unfit, went the argument, would uplift superior, deserving workers.”
https://www.princeton.edu/~tleonard/papers/retrospectives.pdf


(More stuff)

Jonathon Rosalia wrote:

only modern times has the idea of white supremacy been a “right wing” thing and it was dumped on them by the “evolved” Democratic Party to try to hide their racist pasts Hilary Clinton has pictures with well known klans members and they held positions in the dnc in 1990s

the Nazis where national socialists (not right wing)

history shows the ideology that makes up the modern left is highly suspect and mostly stained with blood and lies


Michael wrote:

I don’t think the KKK was a “leftist organization” but there is no doubt it was a Democrat organization. The KKK was the armed militant apparatus of the Democrat Party. Democrats used the Klan to do their dirty work to harass Republicans and black people. Since Democrats are on the left of the American political spectrum then by association people classify the Klan as a leftist organization. The problem with left and right classification in American politics is that until 2016 there has never really been a left or right political force in the United States. Neither Democrats or Republicans are traditionally leftist or conservative. They are traditionally liberal parties. America is a liberal state. In 2016 however the Democrat Party became a full on leftist organization that has fully embraced socialist values.


And so on. Let's talk about the last one. At every single election I've been to, you know what I see? The whites go into the building. But there are blacks that get a "premade" ballot at a booth outside, which surprise surprise tells them how to vote. Because liberals don't trust blacks to decide for themselves. I half-expect them to pull out a billy club when other whites aren't nearby and beat the blacks with it until they agree to take the premade ballot. But they don't need to do this, because the left uses all sorts of methods to cheat. Starting with calling ID racist, and demanding that we not check things so we have one vote per person. I still wouldn't put voter intimidation past them.

In fact...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/01/while-fearmongering-about-voter-intimidation-the-left-promises-to-revolt-if-trump-wins/

Yes, they definitely are the same party that used to beat blacks with people in white robes. Only now they've co-opted some blacks (mainly thugs who don't understand how they're betraying their own people) to do the same thing. Black on black violence is usually for reasons like economic "justice" against people who don't fit in the community. In other words, they aren't "black" enough. Actually, these people are model to black success. Meanwhile, the thugs who beat or kill them are serving the interests of fake allies of blacks. Real allies of blacks believe race has no part in politics, that all people should be economically successful, and this party who exploited and abused blacks needs to die already or at least be exposed for what it is.

Btw, the left is still involved in slavery. Each day, illegal immigrants cross the border. They are promised opportunity. But what they find is often human trafficking or work well below minimum wage.
https://thebubbler.co/illegal-immigration-todays-slavery/
Quote:
In this case, she was working on the Civil War era, and I have to confess, I read something in her book that I had never thought of before. The Northern Union wasn’t simply opposed to slavery on moral grounds, though it was a significant factor. One of the primary issues with slavery was that it was killing the economic opportunities for the working class.

Like illegal immigration today, the influx of slaves was taking away work opportunities from poor or lower middle class workers who needed jobs. After 35 years of studying politics, I was shocked this had not occurred to me before. In this sense, slaves were essentially the illegal immigrants of their day.

Or to flip this over, the slaves of today are the illegal immigrants.


0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Tue 30 May, 2023 01:02 pm
Christian nationalists have hijacked the GOP and my faith community, says Wyoming Republican

"Christian nationalists have hijacked both my Republican Party and my faith community by blurring the lines between church and government and in the process rebranding our state’s identity," writes Wyoming Republican Party member, Susan Stubson. Stubson joins Morning Joe to discuss.


Published May 25, 2023


0 Replies
 
PoliteMight
 
  0  
Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2023 06:07 am
@Real Music,
It is propaganda and marketing by Jewish Money-lenders meant to confuse you.

"Democratic Republican" is the original party.

"Central Banking" Party was shot down because CB is what many people left European nations for.

"Whig" party had ideas of the central banking party.

Via various renames... came the "Democratic" and "Republican" party.

"Republican" party was founded on the idea that men should be equal. AKA the Civil-war. However it also had people from the CB and W Parties mentalities in which

"people do not need help, they can figure out things on their own"

........

Democratic believed in

"You give a man a food, clothing, shelter, and lead them to education and work they will flourish".

............


Then you had "Carpet Baggers' AKA "Money Lenders" who help bring the "Southern Democratics" into the Republican Party. They believed they could bring back slavery legally.

...................................................................................................................................

Because the Democratic do not care about racism anymore for the last post Civil-war into the 1960's and even now their was neo-slavery.

Raising of Standards ( school eduacation and grades ).
More strict laws with longer prison sentences and harsher punishments.
Anti-privacy ( thank you Hill and Bill ) via internet.


Most of the actions above was pro-Democratics.

Standards
Safety
Fear

The problem is that Republicans do not want to spend money.
Republicans do not have those problems

City Jobs
Ideal citizen via religion
Gun owners

But the biggest reality is that Small businesses ( like your dentist or eye-doctor ) wants Republican because they have a lower-tax. Aka spend less money.

........................................................................

When Democratic goes

Respect LGBT,
Give immigrants a chance or even non-Europeans in general.
We all should condemn men who grew up on Internet as predators

Republicans go

Condemn abortion
Deport these future gang members
Lets just make it a race thing.

...........

Which translate to

Why not just make a "one-child per household" law as with China
People know those jobs are needed for their children
People racist when it comes to a guy enjoying the opposite sex and is young

...............

When you have on the side line

People having sex because they need it.
Music with questionable lyrics
Access to content from around the globe

....................

People are unable to question

Religious obligations
Bad parenting
Globalization v. Barriers.
0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Jul, 2023 06:51 pm
(Republican) Texas Governor Greg Abbott

Published July 24, 2023


0 Replies
 
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Jul, 2023 09:14 pm
John Pavlovitz absolutely LEVELS the hypocrisy, bigotry, and racism of white Evangelicals who had nothing but hatred for Obama
and nothing but love for Trump.


0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.08 seconds on 12/22/2024 at 05:41:45