Apparently, quite a few...
I can't help but wonder: If a small percentage of the time and energy that has been devoted to keeping this issue alive was devoted to other causes, how much good could be done? Choose your cause: help the homeless, teach literacy, promote abstinence, clean up a playground...
Fight eating disorders....
and another decision's in
it's all beyond depressing. not the decision. the dragging out.
March 30, 2005 - 15:26
Court has again refused to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case
RON WORD
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - A federal appeals court has again refused to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case
D'artagnan wrote:Apparently, quite a few...
I can't help but wonder: If a small percentage of the time and energy that has been devoted to keeping this issue alive was devoted to other causes, how much good could be done? Choose your cause: help the homeless, teach literacy, promote abstinence, clean up a playground...
Given what some of us believe, that this may be murder, that type of argument is inapporpriate. One does not ignore a murder in progress because one's time could be better spent cleaning up a playground.
Point well-taken. But if this is considered murder, those who believe it better start trying to shut down hospitals all over the country...
Better not only close all the hospitals in this country but also the courts, because they're all part of the problem; those murderous sob's.
cicerone imposter wrote:Better not only close all the hospitals in this country but also the courts, because they're all part of the problem; those murderous sob's.
One wonders what the courts of the era had to say about the 19th century genocide of the American Indians.
Yes, one does wonder about the court system of the 19th century, but what has that to do with the Terri Schiavo case?
Brandon, this is the second time you've brought up ugly events from the past. I don't think you understand that when Plessy was ruled against, Grover Cleveland didn't rush back to Washington to try and overturn the verdict. In fact the executive branch accepted Supreme Court rulings because that's how our nation was set up!
Now you're bringing up another nasty episode...so let me ask you. Did the Supreme Court rule that commiting genocide against Native Americans was lawful? Did they reject a petition to intervene on their behalf?
What worries many on this forum is the complete audacity and reckless disregard for the seperation of powers that is so central to the health of our country.
I feel terrible for Terri. Debra, Lash and you too...have made me reconsider my beliefs....but the central problem I have is with executive interference.
panzade- Exactly. If the separation of powers are permitted to be breached, our country, and everything it stands for, IMO, is in jeopardy. At the risk of sounding uncaring, I think that the integrity of the US government is a far more important issue than the fate of one individual.
Terri Schiavo's fate has been sealed for over 10 years. It's time for us to let go and let her go in peace. It's time for America to return family decisions to the place where they belong: In the privacy of the family.
They've put the Pope on a feeding tube...
cicerone imposter wrote:Yes, one does wonder about the court system of the 19th century, but what has that to do with the Terri Schiavo case?
My argument is straightforward:
cicerone imposter wrote:Better not only close all the hospitals in this country but also the courts, because they're all part of the problem; those murderous sob's.
One cannot use concurrence of the courts with one side of an argument to make a very persuasive case that it is the morally right side, since it has been the morally wrong side so many times.
Lucky thing he isn't anywhere near in a persistent vegetative state, let alone for so many years that his brain has atrophied and cerebrospinal fluid has filled the cranial space where his grey matter is ...
That was in response to Lash's post about the Pope btw (Brandon got in between). Hope my posts were useful for you by the way, Lash; I hadnt before gotten into the primary sources quite that deeply. Note that not one of the quotes I brought was from some opinion piece - its all the original court documents, and I'd say they're pretty unambiguous about some of the points you brought up.
panzade wrote:...What worries many on this forum is the complete audacity and reckless disregard for the seperation of powers that is so central to the health of our country.
I feel terrible for Terri. Debra, Lash and you too...have made me reconsider my beliefs....but the central problem I have is with executive interference.
Most decent people will do what they have to do to stop what they consider to be a murder in progress, even pass a questionable law. The really proper way to have done this would have been for Congress to pass guidlines for euthanasia, including a prohibition against removing the feeding tube from someone not on other life support and whose wishes for the situation were never put in writing.
Brandon, Your's is a personal view; most Americans don't want Congress to interfere in family matters.
In retrospect I agree totally. The Schiavo case should lead to a codification of laws on euthanesia. Let the law evolve. Don't change it by fiat.
