Has the Schiavo case Become a Political Football?

Brandon may I compliment you on having the courage of your convictions. You are steadfast.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

It really doesn't matter that people question Michael's motives. HE IS THE LEGAL GUARDIAN; and the majority of Americans wants it that way.

You're right. If all you care about is the law, then the legal status is all that matters. And if you care a lot about the appearance of being right, the polls matter a lot.

If you care about the issue of starving her itself, though, then you care about whether he is actually telling the truth, and the polls are irrelevant.

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blueveinedthrobber wrote:

Brandon may I compliment you on having the courage of your convictions. You are steadfast.

Thanks.

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Brandon, We are a nation of laws. Without laws, we would be living in chaos. We depend on our laws to live a safe and non-chaotic life for the majority. That's the reason why the police and courts protect us.

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The doctors who have said she is vegetative have no reason to lie about it.

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Brandon9000 wrote:

DrewDad wrote:
You ever find evidence for your assertion that someone feeding her using a spoon would be forcibly restrained?

I answered that clearly. I said that if you will but state for the record that you believe someone attempting to come in and feed her would be allowed to, I will cite you a link. I do not guarantee I will be on A2K 24 x 7, though.

Ah... I'll take that as a "no."

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Brandon, We are a nation of laws. Without laws, we would be living in chaos. We depend on our laws to live a safe and non-chaotic life for the majority. That's the reason why the police and courts protect us.

Yes, we are. Everything you have said there is 100% correct.

But it is also true that much of the evil done in history, for instance some of what was done in Nazi Germany, was done legally. Therefore, I care about justice too. Even if the courts say that MS is TS's health proxy, and they are satisified with his story, I still care about whether his story is true.

Anyway, you have probably succeeded in killing her. She is probably suffering damage to her internal organs at this point. Please don't let me interrupt your dance of triumph.

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Brandon9000 wrote:

Anyway, you have probably succeeded in killing her. She is probably suffering damage to her internal organs at this point. Please don't let me interrupt your dance of triumph.

I pity you.

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DrewDad wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
You ever find evidence for your assertion that someone feeding her using a spoon would be forcibly restrained?

I answered that clearly. I said that if you will but state for the record that you believe someone attempting to come in and feed her would be allowed to, I will cite you a link. I do not guarantee I will be on A2K 24 x 7, though.

Ah... I'll take that as a "no."

I resist your mischaracterization of my rather straightforward statement. Take that as what it is. I said that I will find you a link that somoene would be prevented from feeding her, if you like. But because it strikes me as just on the face of it true, and in no need of citation for a sane person, I will only do so if you first state that you think it is not true. Don't revise what I said.

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Nobody on this forum or any other killed Terry Schiavo. Maybe it's time to ratchet the tone down a bit.

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There's a thread on that, ci.

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ehBeth, Didn't see it; can you post the link here? Thanks.

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Brandon,
You have called people "liars". That is hardly a debating point in any debate rule book I have ever seen.

Nor is it a debating technique to demand evidence repeatedly for a fact that has been presented over and over to you. Nor is it a debating point to then after admitting that something exists to return to your earlier argument that that it doesn't exist.

Brandon wrote:

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What rot. All it boils down to is that the unsubstantiated word of one person who may have conflicting motives is not a lot of evidence.

Yep, it is ROT.. Nothing but rot. You keep repeating the same crap OVER and OVER. Close your eyes and pretend it doesn't exist. It was not "one person". It wasn't the first time you said it and it isn't the 12th or the 30th time you repeat it.

I certainly don't expect you to act like a adult. But I will treat you like a child if you continue to act like one.

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Lash a link to the story of the Texas boy...bush signed this into law as governor of Texas in 1999

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3084934

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Here it is, c.i.

link

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Brandon9000 wrote:

DrewDad wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
You ever find evidence for your assertion that someone feeding her using a spoon would be forcibly restrained?

I answered that clearly. I said that if you will but state for the record that you believe someone attempting to come in and feed her would be allowed to, I will cite you a link. I do not guarantee I will be on A2K 24 x 7, though.

Ah... I'll take that as a "no."

I resist your mischaracterization of my rather straightforward statement. Take that as what it is. I said that I will find you a link that somoene would be prevented from feeding her, if you like. But because it strikes me as just on the face of it true, and in no need of citation for a sane person, I will only do so if you first state that you think it is not true. Don't revise what I said.

LOL.

You're an absolute marvel, Brandon. You consistently demand citations for others' posts, then place conditions when others demand them from you.

I will state this: I don't know for certain whether someone would be prevented from placing food in Terri Shiavo's mouth. I suspect so, since chewing and swallowing are conscious behaviors, and she would be in danger of choking.

But prove your assertion. Until then, I will assume that your opinion (which you stated as fact) is no more (perhaps less) informed than mine.

P.S. Perhaps you would like to clarify your original statement:

Brandon9000 wrote:

By the way, you would be wrong anyway. Removing the feeding tube is not ending intervention, since if someone attempted to feed her, they would be prevented from doing so by force.

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I have been away for most of the day. When I read the latest threads, I was struck that people seem to be going around in circles. The last few pages have made me literally dizzy.

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Well then Phoenix would you like to sit down and catch your breath? May I get you a glass of punch?

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blueveinedthrobber wrote:

Well then Phoenix would you like to sit down and catch your breath? May I get you a glass of punch?

At this point in time a double bourbon would be lovely, thank you! :wink:

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