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Has the Schiavo case Become a Political Football?

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:08 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bush approved legislation in Texas to withhold medical care if the family is unable to pay for their care. He is now saying "every life is precious." What's wrong with this picture?

This is very disappointing to me, if true. Can you provide a link?


Brandon - I will have a good look when I get home - it was in a recent edition of the Washington Post, I think.

I will prolly be beaten to the post by someone else, though!

Thing is - how long can we afford, as a society, to pay for care for people with no hope of recovery? What choices are we making - what else suffers, which could give great benefit to many?

These are real questions.


We had a terrible case here where a family were desperately keeping a child alive (where, in the opinion of medical teams from a number of different hospitals) the poor kid was dead in any meaningful way - but the parents wanted life-support maintained while they grew another child to harvest bone-marrow. The hospitals wanted to allow the child to die.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:09 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
dlowan, The doctors have taken electrogram measurements of Terri's brain, and there was no activity; she is brain dead. 19 judges have decided on the removal of life sustaining food and water. This battle has been going on for 15 years; Terri's health was not good, because she was bulimic and was grossly overweight. Some of the doctors have concluded that her poor health was the cause of her heart attack.

May I please see a reference for the measurement indicating no electrical activity? This contradicts what I have heard, and I don't think she would be breathing if her brain had no electrical activity. And brain dead is, indeed, defined as no electrical activity. I would greatly appreciate any citation to such a conclusion.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:12 pm
What is not being shared on this forum is the fact that Terri's husband tried everything in his power to gain back Terri's health even after doctors told him it was hopeless. He was one of the last to give up. Those accusing him of all sorts of sinister motivations doesn't know what they are talking about. Some even suggested it was for money. The money was exhausted many years ago to care for Terri. People do not seem to understand how expensive health care is in this country, and shoot off their mouths without one iota of fact or information. It's really sad.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:12 pm
dlowan wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bush approved legislation in Texas to withhold medical care if the family is unable to pay for their care. He is now saying "every life is precious." What's wrong with this picture?

This is very disappointing to me, if true. Can you provide a link?


Brandon - I will have a good look when I get home - it was in a recent edition of the Washington Post, I think.

I will prolly be beaten to the post by someone else, though!

Thing is - how long can we afford, as a society, to pay for care for people with no hope of recovery? What choices are we making - what else suffers, which could give great benefit to many?

These are real questions....

I assume, then, that you would also favor a law barring people over some age like maybe 80 from receiving any treatment other than palliative, since their life span is unlikely to be great even with a total cure, and those resources could give "great benefit to many."
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:15 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bush approved legislation in Texas to withhold medical care if the family is unable to pay for their care. He is now saying "every life is precious." What's wrong with this picture?

This is very disappointing to me, if true. Can you provide a link?


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3087387

http://meteor-blades.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/20/23916/5653

Or search for "Texas Futile Care Law."
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:16 pm
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I assume, then, that you would also favor a law barring people over some age like maybe 80 from receiving any treatment other than palliative, since their life span is unlikely to be great even with a total cure, and those resources could give "great benefit to many."


B-R-A-I-N D-E-A-D. I can only imagine that we'll need to spell this out numerous times before it eventually sinks in.

And what certainly isn't being talked about here, ESPECIALLY from neocons, is the fact that Michael did everything he could do, and when he realized that she was gone, he decided to move on with his life.

The fact that neocons out there are throwing out some lunatic conspiracy theory that Michael wanted to kill Terri is disgusting. This woman is BRAIN DEAD. What kind of quality of life is THAT?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:22 pm
DrewDad wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bush approved legislation in Texas to withhold medical care if the family is unable to pay for their care. He is now saying "every life is precious." What's wrong with this picture?

This is very disappointing to me, if true. Can you provide a link?


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3087387

http://meteor-blades.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/20/23916/5653

Or search for "Texas Futile Care Law."

The allegation was that Bush himself signed a bill which witholds medical care from people who can't pay. I would consider the passage of any such law to be a crime against humanity.

The first link is about a baby who was removed from life support because the doctors deemed care futile in his condition. To the extent I am familiar with the circumsances, I disagree with the decision. Anyway, it does not prove the claim about Bush and poor people.

The second does substantiate the claim, but it's just some guy's blog, which I don't take as credible. Do you habe any links that support the Bush allegation from either newspapers or credible organizations? Surely a newspaper would have picked something like that up.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:24 pm
Dookiestix wrote:
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I assume, then, that you would also favor a law barring people over some age like maybe 80 from receiving any treatment other than palliative, since their life span is unlikely to be great even with a total cure, and those resources could give "great benefit to many."


B-R-A-I-N D-E-A-D. I can only imagine that we'll need to spell this out numerous times before it eventually sinks in.

And what certainly isn't being talked about here, ESPECIALLY from neocons, is the fact that Michael did everything he could do, and when he realized that she was gone, he decided to move on with his life.

The fact that neocons out there are throwing out some lunatic conspiracy theory that Michael wanted to kill Terri is disgusting. This woman is BRAIN DEAD. What kind of quality of life is THAT?

Listen carefully now....Brain dead means no electrical activity in the brain. Post for me any citation that describes a result showing she is brain dead. Brain dead people do not breath unassisted. Can your viewpoint only be supported by lies? Show me one such citation.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:32 pm
Does the Atlanta Journal Constitution work for you?

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Adrian
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:40 pm
The law that everyone is talking about can be found here;

Health & Safety Code.

The relevent part is 166.046.

The key word is "inappropriate".

Not giving an opinion, just providing the source.

As for the topic of the thread...Yes, this case has become a political football. I find it rather sick.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:46 pm
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/healthlawprof_blog/2005/03/lifesupport_sto.html

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Under chapter 166 of the Texas Health and Safety Code, if an attending physician disagrees with a surrogate over a life-and-death treatment decision, there must be an ethics committee consultation (with notice to the surrogate and an opportunity to participate). In a futility case such as Sun Hudson's, in which the treatment team is seeking to stop treatment deemed to be nonbeneficial, if the ethics committee agrees with the team, the hospital will be authorized to discontinue the disputed treatment (after a 10-day delay, during which the hospital must help try to find a facility that will accept a transfer of the patient). These provisions, which were added to Texas law in 1999, originally applied only to adult patients; in 2003; they were made applicable to disputes over treatment decisions for or on behalf of minors. (I hasten to add that one of the co-drafters in both 1999 and 2003 was the National Right to Life Committee. Witnesses who testified in support of the bill in 1999 included representatives of National Right to Life, Texas Right to Life, and the Hemlock Society. Our bill passed both houses, unanimously, both years, and the 1999 law was signed by then Governor George W. Bush.)


Here is the law in question:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/HS/content/htm/hs.002.00.000166.00.htm
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2005 11:48 pm
Can we get someone from the acronym thread in here?

HYPOCRACY
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 12:00 am
The reason I mentioned what Bush did in Texas is the simple fact that several (more than one) tv news media made the statement about Bush's legal action in Texas that denied care to the poor. I did not pick out this opinion out of thin air.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 12:10 am
The Schindlars have repeatedly volunteered to pay for her care. Perhaps the over half a million dollars of Terri's settlement money meant for care that Michael spent on lawyers to insure he could kill her... and cremate the remains without autopsy (Idea) would have been better spent seeking the treatment it was intended for at the time of settlement.

MRI's have improved in leaps and bounds and could perhaps end the "potential" debate for good. It's now starting to look like we'll never know. Perhaps that is what's in her best interest... but that only makes sense if there is some part of Terry still living in that body. If not; what's the difference?

What the hyper-partisan won't recognize is 19 Judges would never have heard the case if were a slam dunk. Further, that's misleading as some of the experts have described that as 1 Judge hearing the evidence and 18 examining the legality of that proceeding... which is not quite the same thing. Also keep in mind, the preponderance of evidence obligation that allowed Michael to suddenly remember Terri said she wouldn't want to live in this state after years of saying nothing of the sort, would never have flown in a criminal case where condemnation hinged on that being true beyond a reasonable doubt.

The inescapable fact that is being completely denied is that Michael's guardianship is a total sham. He started a new family over a decade ago and the sole purpose of his continued marriage has for the last decade been to kill his wife. Whether for humane or heinous reasons; that is the simple truth. It is a failure of law that her true next of kin, her loving parents, have been systematically blocked from attempting to help their daughter, or even learn the truth of her medical condition (Michael blocked their access to her records) and as of today even denied visitation with the condemned.

He may well have Terri's best interest in mind and at this point he may well be rightÂ… but there is no excuse for his deplorable behavior towards the Schindlars and it is absurd that he should be able to retain next of kin status for over a decade for the sole purpose of killing her while spending most of the money allocated for her care insuring his permission to do so.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 12:20 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Perhaps the over half a million dollars of Terri's settlement money meant for care that Michael spent on lawyers to insure he could kill her... and cremate the remains without autopsy (Idea) would have been better spent seeking the treatment it was intended for at the time of settlement. .




Bill, I suppose, you desperately need some sleep!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 12:40 am
October 23, 2003

By Alice Chang, M.D.
Harvard Medical School



What Is The Doctor's Reaction?

This story saddens me on many levels. You feel for the woman and her personal tragedy and empathize with the husband and family who have been watching and facing this decision for more than 10 years. Added to this is the conflict over what she would have wanted and what her husband and family feel she would have wanted. Since she had no documentation in a living will, her husband and family are left with their own opinions. While we are lucky to have so many medical techniques available to us to save and prolong life, it also means facing decisions about when we should not use those techniques to support the body when there is no chance of a meaningful recovery.

With regards to what Mrs. Schiavo might or could feel, her doctors have said that she is in a persistent vegetative state. To make this claim, she had to have a thorough neurological examination, including tests of her brain waves and brain activity showing no conscious thought. It is possible to have reflex smiles without any conscious thought. The question about whether to start or withdraw feeding comes up for families in cases of strokes and other kinds of serious brain injury when a person is unable to swallow or eat on his or her own. When there is no chance for a meaningful recovery, a physician might advise withholding or stopping feeding, since it only prolongs life without a chance for recovery. When this situation arises, families often become concerned about whether withholding food and water will be uncomfortable. While most studies are limited in how they can measure comfort in this situation, the ones that have been done, assessing a person's vital signs or using a nurse as a judge for patient's comfort, note that it is a peaceful way to pass. People in this situation do not feel hunger or thirst the way we might expect to if we skip eating or drinking. While inserting a feeding tube into the nose is not a difficult procedure, Mrs. Schiavo will need a small surgery to place a long-term feeding tube in the near future if feeding is continued.


What Changes Can I Make Now?

There are ways to prevent this kind of difficult situation for you and others in your family. First of all, consider a living will or assigning a health-care proxy as a gift to your spouse, your children and your parents. In case of serious illness or a tragedy, your family will be suffering through so many emotions. Making it clear who is your health-care proxy or decision-maker and what you would want will lift some of the burden during this difficult time.

If you are already having a will drawn up with the birth of a child, assign a health-care proxy and add a living will to the document. If you already have a will, discuss with your lawyer how to add a living will and health-care proxy designation.
You can ask your health-care provider or social worker about a form assigning a health-care proxy. This lets everyone know who you officially designated to make decisions about your life and treatments.
Let people know when you made a decision. If you decide to assign a health-care proxy to a parent instead of a spouse or a sibling instead of a child, make sure this is clear to everyone involved. Some people wish to spare their children these responsibilities.
Let your proxy know. Make sure your proxy knows that you have made this designation. Also make it clear that you would not want to be kept alive in certain circumstances or that you would. You can use this news story as a way to lead into a discussion about these issues.

What Can I Expect Looking To The Future?

The next battle in this case will be about the new law that overturned the husband's right to make a decision for his wife. In the best of worlds, health-care providers hope they can help a family like this negotiate their differences and do what is closest to what the patient would want. Regardless of the outcome, a lot of support through the healing process will be needed for everyone in this family.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 12:55 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Bill, I suppose, you desperately need some sleep!
Do you have a problem with my opinion or one or more of those facts?
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 01:35 am
parados wrote:
Debra posted lots of nice parts of the constitution but she failed to interpret them correctly or include the other parts that apply.


Be specific. What did I fail to interpret correctly? Are you saying that Congress does not have the power to enact laws to enforce the Fourteenth Amendment?

What applicable parts of the Constitution did I FAIL to include?

If you're going to make an allegation that failed to interpret the Constitution correctly . . . or failed to discuss other applicable provisions of the Constitution . . . then be specific. Back up your allegation.


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The Florida courts threw out the Florida legislation because it deprived Terri Schiavo of due process when the legislature interfered and it also violated her right to privacy.


What does this have to do with federal [Congressional] legislation?

Additionally, you are wrong concerning the Florida Supreme Court's reasoning for invalidating the law enacted by the Florida State Legislature. The legislation violated the Separation of Powers Doctrine.

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This Court, after careful consideration of the arguments of the parties and amici, the constitutional issues raised, the precise wording of the challenged law, and the underlying procedural history of this case, concludes that the law violates the fundamental constitutional tenet of separation of powers and is therefore unconstitutional both on its face and as applied to Theresa Schiavo. Accordingly, we affirm the trial court's order declaring the law unconstitutional. . . .

n2 Because we find the separation of powers issue to be dispositive in this case, we do not reach the other constitutional issues addressed by the circuit court.


Bush v. Schiavo, 2004 Fla. LEXIS 1539; 885 So. 2d 321; 29 Fla. L. Weekly S 515.

You can can access the case through a free subscription to LexisOne. http://www.lexisone.com/


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"Florida courts have held that the right to privacy includes the right to make personal medical decisions without interference from the state."

The interesting part of this ruling is that the Federal law also states that people have the right to make personal medical decisions without interference. I believe the law was passed in 1990. The legal reasoning is the same on the Federal level as it is on the state. The law clearly violates Terri Schiavo's rights.


If you're talking about the recent Congressional enactment, which one of Terri's rights does it violate? Her fundamental right to life . . . or her right to give informed consent BEFORE nutrition and hydration is removed?

You seem to be forgetting the United States Supreme Court ruling in the Cruzan case wherein the Court stated:

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Although many state courts have held that a right to refuse treatment is encompassed by a generalized constitutional right of privacy, we have never so held. We believe this issue is more properly analyzed in terms of a Fourteenth Amendment liberty interest." See Bowers v. Hardwick, 478 U.S. 186, 194-195, 92 L. Ed. 2d 140, 106 S. Ct. 2841 (1986). . . .

It cannot be disputed that the Due Process Clause protects an interest in life as well as an interest in refusing life-sustaining medical treatment. Not all incompetent patients will have loved ones available to serve as surrogate decisionmakers. And even where family members are present, "there will, of course, be some unfortunate situations in which family members will not act to protect a patient." In re Jobes, 108 N.J. 394, 419, 529 A.2d 434, 447 (1987). A State is entitled to guard against potential abuses in such situations.


The Congressional enactment gives Terri's parents standing to have a federal court make a de novo determination of whether the State of Florida has properly guarded Terri's constitutionally-protected INTEREST IN LIFE.

The Florida trial court noted that Michael Schiavo had a potential conflict of interest and, regrettably, money overshadowed the entire case causing a potential conflict of interest for all family members. The court-appointed Guardian ad litem (GAL) reported that Michael Schiavo's testimony could not satisfy the clear and convincing evidence standard due to his potential conflicts of interest. (Michael responded by asking the the Court to disqualify the GAL). The court somehow determined that Terri's alleged remarks to Michael's brother and sister-in-law that she didn't want to be hooked to machines or she didn't want to live like that (hooked to machines) was clear and convincing evidence that Terri would want her feeding tube removed.

HOWEVER, is hearsay evidence offered by people having conflicts of interests sufficient proof to allow the State to order a persons death? Does that satisfy the DUE PROCESS CLAUSE of the FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT (U.S. Constitution) that protects Terri's substantive, fundamental right to LIFE?

How does the federal law violate Terri's rights? It was enacted to make sure her rights were protected.




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This clearly violates the same provisions in the US Constitution that were violated in the Florida one.


You're wrong. See above.




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Perhaps you can tell us Debra which way the courts rule when one person states something in court and there is no evidence to the contrary? There is no evidence contradicting Michael Schiavo's statements about his wife's wishes. There is a lot of gnashing of the teeth but no evidence. What do courts do at that point? I think I know. But could you tell us Debra?


There was substantial evidence that contradicted Michael Schiavo's statements, including Terri's religious beliefs as a Roman Catholic. Terri also made statements that she would want to live to both her mother and her friend. "Where there is life, there is hope," she said.

Read the Court decision and you will see that the court dismissed the contrary evidence based upon the witness's use of "present tense verbs" concerning a television movie that the witness and Terri had watched in approx. 1982 concerning Karen Ann Quinlan. Terry was outraged that Karen's parents sought a court order to take their daughter off the respirator.

The judge said it was not credible that the witness and Terri would be discussing the movie in "present tense verbs" when Karen Ann Quinlan had died six years previously. However, the court made an erroneous conclusion of fact. Quinlan had not died in 1976 . . . she died in 1985.


AND, by the way . . . the Quinlan family sold their story AFTER they won their case in 1976 . . . and a television movie was subsequently made. The Quinlan family made so much money from selling their story that they were able to build a hospice to care for people like Karen Ann Quinlan . . . the ones who survived AFTER they were taken off machines . . . but still needed to be cared for and nourished through feeding tubes.

HOW MUCH to you want to bet that if Michael wins his quest to kill his wife that he will sell his story for mega bucks? Big bucks waiting in the wings, for Michael . . . but Terri has to die before he can cash in.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 02:18 am
DrewDad wrote:
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/healthlawprof_blog/2005/03/lifesupport_sto.html

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Under chapter 166 of the Texas Health and Safety Code, if an attending physician disagrees with a surrogate over a life-and-death treatment decision, there must be an ethics committee consultation (with notice to the surrogate and an opportunity to participate). In a futility case such as Sun Hudson's, in which the treatment team is seeking to stop treatment deemed to be nonbeneficial, if the ethics committee agrees with the team, the hospital will be authorized to discontinue the disputed treatment (after a 10-day delay, during which the hospital must help try to find a facility that will accept a transfer of the patient). These provisions, which were added to Texas law in 1999, originally applied only to adult patients; in 2003; they were made applicable to disputes over treatment decisions for or on behalf of minors. (I hasten to add that one of the co-drafters in both 1999 and 2003 was the National Right to Life Committee. Witnesses who testified in support of the bill in 1999 included representatives of National Right to Life, Texas Right to Life, and the Hemlock Society. Our bill passed both houses, unanimously, both years, and the 1999 law was signed by then Governor George W. Bush.)


Here is the law in question:

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/HS/content/htm/hs.002.00.000166.00.htm

I don't see anything about can't pay.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 02:40 am
Brandon - I don't have time to read up - but here is the article I meant:

"Hospitals can end life support
Decision hinges on patient's ability to pay, prognosis
By LEIGH HOPPER
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

Bill Olive / Chronicle
(L-r)Mario Caballero, Spiro Nikolouzos Jr. and Jannette Nikolouzos. St. Luke's notified Jannette Nikolouzos in a March 1 letter that it would withdraw life-sustaining care of her husband of 34 years, Spiro Nikolouzos, in 10 days.
A patient's inability to pay for medical care combined with a prognosis that renders further care futile are two reasons a hospital might suggest cutting off life support, the chief medical officer at St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital said Monday.


Dr. David Pate's comments came as the family of Spiro Nikolouzos fights to keep St. Luke's from turning off the ventilator and artificial feedings keeping the 68-year-old grandfather alive.

St. Luke's notified Jannette Nikolouzos in a March 1 letter that it would withdraw life-sustaining care of her husband of 34 years in 10 days, which would be Friday. Mario Caba-llero, the attorney representing the family, said he is seeking a two-week extension, at minimum, to give the man more time to improve and to give his family more time to find an alternative facility.

Caballero said he would discuss that issue with hospital attorneys today.

Pate said he could not address Nikolouzos' case specifically because he doesn't have permission from the family but could talk about the situation in general.

"If there is agreement on the part of all the physicians that the patient does have an irreversible, terminal illness," he said, "we're not going to drag this on forever ...

"When the hospital is really correct and the care is futile ... you're not going to find many hospitals or long-term acute care facilities (that) want to take that case," he said. "Any facility that's going to be receiving a patient in that condition ... is going to want to be paid for it, of course."


Patient showed emotion
Caballero said he believes the hospital wants to discontinue care because Nikolouzos' Medicare funding is running out.

Spiro Nikolouzos, a retired electrical engineer for an oil drilling company, has been an invalid since 2001, when he experienced bleeding related to a shunt in his brain. Jannette Nikolouzos, 58, had cared for her husband at their Friendswood home, feeding him via a tube in his stomach. Her husband couldn't speak, she said, but recognized family members and showed emotion.

On Feb. 10, the area around the tube started bleeding, and Nikolouzos rushed her husband to St. Luke's for emergency care. Early the next morning, she said, the hospital called and said he had "coded" and stopped breathing and had to be placed on a ventilator.

A neurologist told her, she said, that he is not brain-dead and the part of the brain that controls breathing is still functioning. Although his eyes were open and fixed when he first was placed on the ventilator, he has started blinking, she said.


A missed opportunity
Dr. Marcia Levetown, director of palliative care at The Methodist Hospital, said moving Nikolouzos to a nursing home or other type of facility may not be an option if his body is dependent on several types of technology, such as mechanical ventilation and kidney dialysis.

Levetown said when families and hospitals take their disagreements to court, it often means the hospital has missed an important opportunity in the family's emotional healing.

Often missing from aggressive medical care is empathy for family members and acknowledgment of grief, she said.

"The acknowledgment of 'You clearly love your husband very much. You've done the good fight' " makes a difference, she said. Levetown also tells families, "Whatever might be beneficial, you've made sure he's gotten that. We all wish he could get better ... How can we best honor this man ... as we accompany him in his next journey?"


Law allows removal
State law allows doctors to remove patients from life support if the hospital's ethics committee agrees, but it requires that the hospital give families 10 days to find another facility.

A similar case is still in the courts. Texas Children's Hospital wants to discontinue life support on 5-month-old Sun Hudson, who was diagnosed shortly after birth with a fatal form of dwarfism. His mother, Wanda Hudson, wants her son's care to continue at the hospital.

On Wednesday, a judge will consider whether Harris County Probate Court judge William McCulloch may remain on the Hudson case. Caballero, who represents Wanda Hudson, filed a motion that McCulloch remove himself from the case after making what Caballero said were biased statements."

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3073295


And a law blog:

"March 16, 2005
Life-Support Stopped for 6-Month-Old in Houston
Yesterday Sun Hudson, the nearly 6-month-old at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston, diagnosed and slowly dying with a rare form of dwarfism (thanatophoric dysplasia), was taken off the ventilator that was keeping him alive. A Houston court authorized the hospital's action, and Sun died shortly thereafter. Today's Houston Chronicle and Dallas Morning News have most of the details.

Both papers report that this is the first time in the United States a court has allowed life-sustaining treatment to be withdrawn from a pediatric patient over the objections of the child's parent. (The Dallas paper quotes John Paris, a bioethicist at Boston College, as its source.) If true, the unique Texas statute under which this saga was played out contributed in no small way to the outcome. As one of the laws co-authors (along with a roomful of other drafters, in 1999) let me explain.

Under chapter 166 of the Texas Health and Safety Code, if an attending physician disagrees with a surrogate over a life-and-death treatment decision, there must be an ethics committee consultation (with notice to the surrogate and an opportunity to participate). In a futility case such as Sun Hudson's, in which the treatment team is seeking to stop treatment deemed to be nonbeneficial, if the ethics committee agrees with the team, the hospital will be authorized to discontinue the disputed treatment (after a 10-day delay, during which the hospital must help try to find a facility that will accept a transfer of the patient). These provisions, which were added to Texas law in 1999, originally applied only to adult patients; in 2003; they were made applicable to disputes over treatment decisions for or on behalf of minors. (I hasten to add that one of the co-drafters in both 1999 and 2003 was the National Right to Life Committee. Witnesses who testified in support of the bill in 1999 included representatives of National Right to Life, Texas Right to Life, and the Hemlock Society. Our bill passed both houses, unanimously, both years, and the 1999 law was signed by then Governor George W. Bush.)

In the Hudson case, the hospital ran through the statutory procedure, but decided nonetheless to get a court order authorizing withdrawal of Sun Hudson's ventilator support. The hospital undoubtedly had its own sufficient reasons for taking this additional step; the statute doesn't require a court order. Indeed, the statute was designed to keep these cases out of court, if possible.

I am no great fan of unilateral withdrawals of treatment under the banner of "medical futility." When our drafting team agreed on the key language in chapter 166, I said that I hoped the authority to unilaterally withhold treatment would never have to be invoked, but I knew then what I know even better now: sometimes good, humane medical care requires it.

Since the 2003 change that made the law applicable to minors, I have participated in two cases in which life-support was ultimately withdrawn from infants over parental objections. In both cases, the hospital extended the 10-day waiting period in order to attempt to restart discussions with the parents before unilaterally withdrawing life-support. In one case, a previous hospital's ethics committee (on which I also serve) had twice agreed with the attending physician. The hospital CEO overruled the committee the first time (before the 2003 amendment that added minors to chapter 166), and the second time the child was transferred to our hospital on the 9th day, and we restarted the statutory process from scratch. In neither case did the hospital resort to a judicial proceeding to settle the treatment dispute.

My experience on five hospital ethics committees, and as co-chair of two, is that in both adult and pediatric cases, most futility disputes never get to this last step of unilateral withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment. In most cases either the families drop their opposition along the way or the patient dies before the due-process steps required by the statute have been exhausted. Last fall, ethicists at M.D. Anderson surveyed Texas hospitals' experiences under chapter 166; I hope they will publish their results soon. It will be extremely interesting to find out how often the statutory process has been followed all the way to the end, including withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment over family objections.

There is no telling how the Houston judge would have decided this case if chapter 166 were not on the books. On the one hand, it appears that no judge in this country has ever sided with the family in one of these treatment disputes. On the other hand, the physicians, hospital, and ethics committee appear to agree that Sun's condition was fatal and that his protracted death was not without some suffering. (I don't know how to square this with newspaper reports that "[t]he hospital's description of Sun [was] that he was motionless and sedated for comfort.")

But in this case, the judge wasn't writing on a blank slate. The Legislature had already spoken, twice -- once in 1999 when it enacted chapter 166 and again in 2003 when it amended the law to make it apply to pediatric patients. All the judge had to do -- and apparently all he did do -- was to find that the law authorizes the hospital to withdraw treatment over the objections of Sun's mother, Wanda Hudson.

The papers also report than another case is making its way through Houston courts: "Another case involving a patient on life support — a 68-year-old man in a chronic vegetative state whose family wants to stop St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital from turning off his ventilator — was scheduled to be heard Tuesday by the Houston-based 1st Court of Appeals. But the case was transferred to the 14th Court of Appeals, which promptly issued a temporary injunction ordering St. Luke's not to remove the man's life support. No hearing date has been set." More on this case in a future post. [tm]"

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