Debra_Law wrote: Neither Terri nor her parents were singled out for punishment -- the Congressional enactment did not single out anyone for punishment -- thus the constitutional prohibition does not apply.
Thomas wrote:Fair enough. I didn't rely on the "bill of attainder" part of the clause for my argument, and quoted it only for the sake of quoting a complete sentence.
Debra_Law wrote:Likewise, ex post facto laws apply only to criminal statutes.
Thomas wrote:Not according to Webster's legal dictionary,
as served by FindLaw's website.
Webster's legal dictionary wrote:Ex post facto
1: done, made, or formulated after the fact: "retroactive"
2: of or relating to an ex post facto law
Example: the chief concerns of the ex post facto ban -- L. H. Tribe
Ex post facto law
a civil or criminal law with retroactive effect.
The entry on
ex post facto law goes on to mention criminal law as a special case, but the definition of the term is not limited to criminal cases, and the constitution itself does not distinguish between civil and criminal
ex post facto law.
Thomas:
Review the Findlaw annotations with respect to ex post facto laws:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/47.html#3
Quote:Ex Post Facto Laws
Definition .--At the time the Constitution was adopted, many persons understood the term ex post facto laws to ''embrace all retrospective laws, or laws governing or controlling past transactions, whether . . . of a civil or a criminal nature.'' But in the early case of Calder v. Bull, the Supreme Court decided that the phrase, as used in the Constitution, applied only to penal and criminal statutes. But although it is inapplicable to retroactive legislation of any other kind, the constitutional prohibition may not be evaded by giving a civil form to a measure that is essentially criminal. Every law, which makes criminal an act that was innocent when done, or which inflicts a greater punishment than the law annexed to the crime when committed, is an ex post facto law within the prohibition of the Constitution. 1726
The congressional enactment at issue is not an ex post facto law. It does not subject any actor to criminal penalties [punishment] for an act that was innocent when the act was committed. You seem focused on your characterization that the congressional enactment is a "retroactive" law. It's not a retroactive law, but even if we assume your characterization of the law as retroactive is correct, U.S. Supreme Court precedent clearly establishes that the "ex post facto law" clause in Article I, Section 9, Clause 3, is inapplicable to retroactive legislation other than penal or criminal statutes.
Debra Law wrote:The equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment would not prohibit Congress from passing a "private bill" with respect to Terri because the Fourteenth Amendment applies ONLY to STATES -- not the Federal Congress. RE: No STATE shall . . . deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Thomas wrote:Let me run with your interpretation and see where it leads. If it is true that only the states are obliged to provide equal protection of the law, then Alabama law cannot constitutionally tell blacks to sit in the back of the bus, but the federal government can. In fact, the federal government can constitutionally segregate everything it wants, and discriminate against minorities in any way that suits its fancy. I admit that this is consistent with a very narrow and literal reading of the constitution, but find it very unplausible as a legal doctrine. Is it really your position?
It is not my position. The Fourteenth Amendment does not apply to the federal government. It applies to state government. "State action" is an essential element of any claim with respect to an alleged violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
For an example how a racial discrimination case against the federal government is handled, review
ADARAND CONSTRUCTORS, INC. v. PENA, 515 U.S. 200 (1995).
Quote:Adarand's claim arises under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, which provides that "No person shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." Although this Court has always understood that Clause to provide some measure of protection against arbitrary treatment by the Federal Government, it is not as explicit a guarantee of equal treatment as the Fourteenth Amendment, which provides that "No State shall . . . deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" (emphasis added). Our cases have accorded varying degrees of significance to the difference in the language of those two Clauses. We think it necessary to revisit the issue here. . . .
If you read the entire case, it is extremely educational.
But we have learned a valuable "constitutional" lesson here. The Fourteenth Amendment applies to the States. The implied "equal protection"
component of the Fifth Amendment applies to the Federal Government.
So . . . what is the next question? Whether the congressional enactment is an unconstitutional violation of the implied "equal protection" component of the Fifth Amendment?
Answer: NO