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Global Warming/Climatechange is a hoax

 
 
OldGrumpy
 
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Sun 5 Aug, 2018 11:11 pm
Why take even science so serious? It's all a hoax..from the beginning.

""The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome,
premier environmental think-tank,
consultants to the United Nations"


""We need to get some broad based support,
to capture the public's imagination...
So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
make simplified, dramatic statements
and make little mention of any doubts...
Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is between being effective and being honest."
- Prof. Stephen Schneider,
Stanford Professor of Climatology,
lead author of many IPCC reports
"

"We've got to ride this global warming issue.
Even if the theory of global warming is wrong,
we will be doing the right thing in terms of
economic and environmental policy."
- Timothy Wirth,
President of the UN Foundation "

""No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...
climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
bring about justice and equality in the world."
- Christine Stewart,
former Canadian Minister of the Environment"

"“The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.”
- Prof. Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research"

"“The models are convenient fictions
that provide something very useful.”
- Dr David Frame,
climate modeler, Oxford University"

""I believe it is appropriate to have an 'over-representation' of the facts
on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience."
- Al Gore,
Climate Change activist"


""It doesn't matter what is true,
it only matters what people believe is true."
- Paul Watson,
co-founder of Greenpeace"


""The only way to get our society to truly change is to
frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe."
- emeritus professor Daniel Botkin"

""We are getting close to catastrophic tipping points,
despite the fact that most people barely notice the warming yet."
- Dr James Hansen,
NASA researcher"

""Isn't the only hope for the planet that the
industrialized civilizations collapse?
Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"
- Maurice Strong,
founder of the UN Environment Programme"





OldGrumpy
 
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Sun 5 Aug, 2018 11:20 pm
@Real Music,
with Bill Nye??????????????????????????????????????????/ he is one: extremel ugly, he really hurts my eyes.

Second: He is no scientist at all! He tries to make 'science' popular! (he fails miserably at that)
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OldGrumpy
 
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Sun 5 Aug, 2018 11:26 pm
"Scientist who want to attract attention to themselves, who want to attract great funding to themselves, have to find a way to scare the public... and this you can only do by making things bigger and more dangerous than they really are.
Petr Chylek

Professor of Physics and Atmospheric Science. Dalhousie University Halifax. "
Real Music
 
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Sun 5 Aug, 2018 11:39 pm
@OldGrumpy,
Quote:
Why take even science so serious? It's all a hoax..from the beginning.

That's nice. You are entitled to deny science if that is what you wish to do.
I am just happy that the people who design, build, and maintain the planes we fly on know something about science. I am also happy that the doctors who could one day be operating on me know something about science.
OldGrumpy
 
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Sun 5 Aug, 2018 11:49 pm
@Real Music,
"That's nice. You are entitled to deny science if that is what you wish to do."

Well, if you read the quotes above you see 'science' is used for political reasons.

"I am just happy that the people who design, build, and maintain the planes we fly on know something about science."

Designing, building and maintaining has nothing to do with 'science' but with 'technology' and no, 'technology, against popular opinion, has nothing to do with 'science'. Engineers have my highest respect for what they do. scientists are just people inventing gobbledygook, to keep a living and nothing more. Not worth nothing else. They are useless.

"I am also happy that the doctors who could one day be operating on me know something about science."

Well, then how come 'doctoring' is the 3rd cause of death in the usa?
But too be fair, 'medicine'' is good for help with accidents, like broken legs and thinks like that. In the lang haul they are no good at all.
I will do everything in my power to prevent to get in a hospital,
Real Music
 
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Mon 6 Aug, 2018 12:19 am
@OldGrumpy,
Wow!!!!
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mark noble
 
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Tue 7 Aug, 2018 01:10 pm
@OldGrumpy,
I am in the moment with this bollux.
And I'm done with it.
The 'wheat' WILL be separated from the 'Chaff' and I'm good either way.
Nice One, Humanity - You were NOT FKN Successful.
OldGrumpy
 
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Tue 7 Aug, 2018 11:06 pm
@mark noble,
bye bye
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hightor
 
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Wed 8 Aug, 2018 04:31 am
@OldGrumpy,
Um, most of those quotes (assuming they're even accurate) have nothing to do with "science"; they are political statements and you just don't happen to agree with their political views expressed. Obviously the science was enough to convince these people that the causes and consequences of climate change represent a danger to human life and that the public should be made aware of the situation by stating the facts as starkly as possible.

The worst you can say about these statements is that they are "alarmist" — and when there's a fire you sort of want an alarm to go off.
OldGrumpy
 
  0  
Wed 8 Aug, 2018 04:33 am
@hightor,
"Um, most of those quotes (assuming they're even accurate) have nothing to do with "science""

Oh really? 'science' in this area is hijacked for political purposes.

and, you did not read properly, herse some (from so called scientists) and there is so much more:

Quote:

"“The models are convenient fictions
that provide something very useful.”
- Dr David Frame,
climate modeler, Oxford University"

"“The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.”
- Prof. Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research"

""The only way to get our society to truly change is to
frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe."
- emeritus professor Daniel Botkin"
OldGrumpy
 
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Wed 8 Aug, 2018 04:36 am
And btw how do you explain the also extreme changes in weather on jupiter and other planets? An abundance of suv's? lol
hightor
 
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Wed 8 Aug, 2018 05:29 am
@OldGrumpy,
Quote:
and, you did not read properly, herse some (from so called scientists) and there is so much more:

You didn't read properly — they're not scientists presenting scientific evidence in these statements. They're scientists advocating for social change based on their research, which is backed up by evidence.
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hightor
 
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Wed 8 Aug, 2018 05:31 am
@OldGrumpy,
Quote:
And btw how do you explain the also extreme changes in weather on jupiter and other planets?

So you think our planet's atmosphere can be compared to that of Jupiter? The two planets have completely different weather systems.
najmelliw
 
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Wed 8 Aug, 2018 05:45 am
@OldGrumpy,
OldGrumpy wrote:

And btw how do you explain the also extreme changes in weather on jupiter and other planets? An abundance of suv's? lol


How do you explain using data such as this, which you can only get from scientists using science, if you actively disbelieve the scientific process?

You can't use 'facts' to support your points if you don't profess to believe in the process used to acquire them.

OldGrumpy
 
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Wed 8 Aug, 2018 06:41 am
@najmelliw,
Quote:
How do you explain using data such as this, which you can only get from scientists using science, if you actively disbelieve the scientific process?

You can't use 'facts' to support your points if you don't profess to believe in the process used to acquire them.


Actually I agree upon this. But, this information is not for me, but for people who still believe in the religion 'science' So they can see that 'science' is contradicting itself.

And according to 'science' AGW causes weather changes then on Jupiter!


Yeah right!

It is indeed all a scam!
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OldGrumpy
 
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Wed 8 Aug, 2018 06:43 am
@hightor,
Quote:
"So you think our planet's atmosphere can be compared to that of Jupiter? The two planets have completely different weather systems."


According to 'science'. ALL planets are going through a huge change.

Suv's?

And it is extremely funny to see people 'editing' the information so their beliefs
(about AGW) can stay intact.
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