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Dorothy Kilgallen and JFK

 
 
Equus
 
Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 01:01 pm
Dorothy Kilgallen was a journalist and is remembered for being a panelist on 50's game shows like "What's My Line?". I seem to remember hearing that she died under mysterious circumstances shortly after claiming to have a scoop about the JFK assassination. Does anyone have the story on this?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 02:52 pm
Good start if you google Dorothy Kilgallen + JFK

Here are the first few entries:

http://www.jfkresearch.com/morningstar/killgallen.htm

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/death4.htm

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/kilgallen.txt

http://jfkawards.50megs.com/dorothy.htm

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKkilgallen.htm

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKisrael.htm


http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1615

Doubtless each and every one of these will have a different story!
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 03:27 pm
Any conspiracy theorist will tell you that many people tied to the JFK case died under mysterious circumstances but realistically, these people died just like any of the rest of us. Check this site out:

Mysterious Death?

Also ...

Convenient Deaths?
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 03:34 pm
Last night in the middle of our doubles tennis match my partner leaned over to me and whispered Dorothy Kilgallen. Now I'm petrified I'll die a mysterious death
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 9 Mar, 2005 03:37 pm
From what I remember, Dorothy Kilgallen had the reputation of being quite a virago. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that more than one person would want to do her in!
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panzade
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 01:42 am
Strange...that's what my partner said...that she wasn't well liked. He described her as a termagant.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2005 06:40 am
panzade- She did have a rather sharp tongue, and was not averse to use it to skewer people who were not in her favor.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2005 11:23 am
I have a dim recollection that she and Jack Parr had a nasty feud going after Dorethy printed unkind remarks about his daughter. I had to look up "termagant', wow, I thought I knew just about every unflattering phrase that could be used to describe an unpleasant woman, but folks, today I learned something. I don't know if she actually lived up the the criteria of "termagant", but she did have a reputation for bitchy behaviour.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2005 12:10 pm
Thanks for validating the word glitter. I too was astounded that I had never known such a descriptive word. I had to look up the meaning .
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2005 12:21 pm
panzade, I have truly never heard the word ever before. For a second I thought someone made it up, but the dictionary proved otherwise. You can feel it can't you? I am just aching to figure out a way to use this in a conversation. Language and languages are a thing of beauty. Thank God, there are still people creative enough and bright enough to express an unpleasant thought without resorting to 4 letter words.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2005 12:30 pm
I've not heard 'termagant' but I've read it and understood it by context. I finally looked up 'virago' just now, another word I've read and not heard spoken. As an aside, one of my very favorites guides to Rome is "A Virago's Guide to Rome" - it gives the woman's side to the histories of many of the sites in Rome, quite a pithy account.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2005 02:28 pm
Actually, I think that "shrike" is an even better description:

Quote:
Any of various carnivorous oscine birds of the family Laniidae, having a screeching call and a strong hooked bill with a toothlike projection and often impaling its prey on sharp-pointed thorns or barbs of wire fencing.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2005 03:17 pm
i like shrike...what's the equivilent in men?
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panzade
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2005 03:24 pm
I mean ...is this a sexist thing?
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Letty
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2005 12:34 pm
Hey, panz. The shrike is a bird with a looooooggggggg bill. Now I've answered yours, you answer mine.

Then, of course, there's a shrew.

I only remember that Dorothy did herself in supposedly, and something about what's my line.
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Equus
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2005 08:21 pm
Don't forget Harpy.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2005 08:27 pm
Bitch of course has some of the same flavor to the meaning.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2005 08:31 pm
...All words that bespoke lack of emotional guardedness by some unthinking female. Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Actually I'm not, bitter that is. But I did notice some years ago that bitchy shrewishness seemed to come from lack of straightforward power, and thought it was a twist on manipulative whininess in dealing with the same.

Not that I am perfect, being as I am a recovering passive aggressive (self diagnosis).
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panzade
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2005 10:19 pm
It seems that power would mold the definition...or perhaps lack of power since these words are not applicable to men who in the same instances would be viewed as cunning, masterful and bossy.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 14 Mar, 2005 10:51 pm
And how e're they were viewed, they did have, for a long time, the seat of power, whatever they say about women behind the throne. Women behind the throne is the thing, as mostly women never got to it. Thus shrew, and so on, instead of calm kinglyness, wrapping ermine robes.
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