Steve (as 41oo) wrote:Again with van Gogh's film, its screened by the Northern League who are neo fascist, but van Gogh himself was criticising Islam from a liberal view point I think.
Yes, but liberals can be bigoted too.
Van Gogh was defending the Western, liberal values of secularism, an open debate, equal rights for women.
But like has occasionally happened with liberal universalists in the past, he veered from insisting on the universalness of such values, associated with the post-Enlightenment West, to rhetoricizing about the superiority of Western culture - and the backwardness of Islam.
Muslims were just "goatf*ckers" to him - and he was not gonna give a whit about anyone's cultural values. Is what I am going to do next just about the deepest, most emotional affront to your very being? I dont care, cause in my culture it's normal, and my culture is the one that's making sense, you're just backward folks who need to be shocked and provoked into recognizing the superiority of our open-minded, tolerant values.
(I'm paraphrasing of course, but his rant-like writings and outbursts would be no less provocative in style).
See the paradoxes in that, the trap involved?
The Northern League is not neo- or post-fascist by the way, that's the National Alliance (also in government), but they surely are xenophobic and far-right, thats true.
A US State, I hope not, I mean I doubt that. I must go into detales; It would be an extra Tax for the US, a great big one at that, a friendship flag, in other words a ceperate organization.
