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Does this water drawn today look safe (Flint water declared safe)

 
 
Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 10:15 am
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 11:24 am
They completed their pipeline to Lake Huron.

They signed an expensive contract to get water from Detroit for some bizarre reason despite already having their own pipeline to Lake Huron.

So they have two independent sources of good water.

I don't know what their problem is.

I don't know why people live in cities anyway.
Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 11:03 pm
@edgarblythe,
Well, that is quite terrible. Can they ever get this right?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 02:04 am
@oralloy,
Actually, the water is only save at homes with replaced pipes.

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“I know this is not the situation any of us want to be in. We did not cause the man-made water disaster, therefore adequate resources should continue being provided until the problem is fixed and all the lead and galvanized pipes have been replaced. I will be contacting the Governor’s office immediately to express the insensitivity of the decision he made today and to make sure that I remind him of the additional needs that I’ve requested for the residents of Flint.”

Flint’s Chief Public Health Advisor also says that the city has not received clear steps as to how the remaining lead in Flint schools will be remediated, or how ongoing monitoring will continue for the city’s most vulnerable population.

“The medical community has continuously raised questioned as to how special populations, including nursing and bottle-feeding mothers, will receive bottled water while massive pipe replacement is ongoing,” said Dr. Pugh.

Mayor Weaver adds that water filters are still free and available, and that the FAST Start pipe replacement program will soon begin its next phase and we will get all the pipes replaced as planned.
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Church steps up to help after state ends water distribution in Flint
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Meanwhile, the four remaining pods have been running out of their supply as Flint residents scramble to get cases of bottled water.

And now, a Flint church is stepping up to help those in need.

The First Trinity Missionary Baptist Church has been distributing water for the last 3 years.

It sees 100 to 200 cars a week, and since they'll continue to supply free water they expect that number to go up.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 09:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Actually, the water is only save at homes with replaced pipes.

Why? What's wrong with the existing pipes?
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 09:55 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
Actually, the water is only save at homes with replaced pipes.

Why? What's wrong with the existing pipes?

Do you mean what's wrong with ancient LEAD PIPING?!
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:03 am
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan wrote:
Do you mean what's wrong with ancient LEAD PIPING?!

Yes. Is there some kind of problem with the pipes?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:04 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Why? What's wrong with the existing pipes?
https://i.imgur.com/eZLLXrsm.jpg

Scientists Now Know Exactly How Lead Got Into Flint’s Water
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Scott Pruitt’s EPA Taking Its Time Fixing The Regulation That Poisoned Flint’s Water
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Experts have faulted weak enforcement of the so-called Lead and Copper Rule for the 2014 water crisis in Flint, Michigan. The EPA has been working on major revisions to the regulation since 2010, but so far has not produced an updated rule that would provide better protections against contamination.

The rule is designed to minimize the danger of lead water pipes. It requires utilities to test for lead in water samples from household taps and to treat water to minimize pipe corrosion since lead is a deadly neurotoxin that dissolves in water with no obvious flavor. There are millions of lead pipes in use across the country and utilities are rarely required to replace them.

Pruitt’s predecessor had said the agency would have a draft of a new rule in 2017. But while Pruitt has said updating the rule is a top priority, his EPA has postponed the deadline to later this year. A spokesperson for the agency said Wednesday that Pruitt is still committed to the regulation.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:05 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Is there some kind of problem with the pipes?
Are you seriously questioning what's about lead pipes?
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,

That was when they were using water without adequate corrosion control. Now that they are using water that has adequate corrosion control, there shouldn't be any problems.

If there are in fact still problems, I'm curious to know what these problems are.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Are you seriously questioning what's about lead pipes?

Yes. Is there some kind of problem remaining with the pipes?
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:42 am
Until all homes in Flint get new pipes within their own structures, there's a potential for residual problems. The government now claims that the water is safe UP TO THE HOMES. Owners are responsible at that point.

Looking at the income demographics in Flint, you can see that most homeowners are not going to be able to change out all lead piping in their homes.

https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/05/lead-water-filter-service-lines-plumbing-advice/

edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:52 am
When they switched the water source to the water that poisoned people, " the river water contained salts that would corrode pipes, and the right mix of corrosion inhibitors was never used." Which means the pipes are their respsonsibilty, not the residents'.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:55 am
@oralloy,
Well, from the 1970s onwards the use of lead pipes has been prohibited across Europe.

In Germany, lead pipes in houses and by water companies are forbidden since 1973.
The maximum of allowed lead in the water is 0,010 mg/l (10 µg/l) like in any other European country.

The health risks relate to the way lead can build up in the body. Those at particular risk are infants and children because lead can have an adverse impact on mental development. Lead may also be factor in behavioural problems.

The EPA's limit 15 ppb.
Water out of the old pipes in Flint has 104 parts per billion (ppb) of lead.
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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 10:58 am
@edgarblythe,
Since when are the pipes INSIDE the home the government's responisblity?

YES - corrosive chemicals caused contamination of the water. That was horrible and upsetting to all residents and the Michigan public.

YES - now the government now claims that has been rectified and the supply is safe (tests just released again the other day).

NOW - the homeowners must monitor their own pipes to ensure that contamination has been cleared. The best thing is a water purifier at the faucet.

No matter - it's the downfall of Flint. You can pick up property in that town for pennies on the dollar.

(Lead levels are off the charts in most Detroit schools, too.)
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 11:02 am
@PUNKEY,
Their lack of responsible actions corroded the pipes. Meaning the pipes have to be replaced. Why not by the ones who ruined them?
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 12:07 pm
@edgarblythe,
Why do you think the pipes are ruined and have to be replaced?

The proper corrosion treatments were resumed quite some time ago. The pipes should be perfectly safe now.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 12:08 pm
@PUNKEY,
PUNKEY wrote:
Until all homes in Flint get new pipes within their own structures, there's a potential for residual problems.

What sort of residual problems?
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 01:35 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
That's an informative link, Walter. Thanks for posting.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 08:57 pm
 

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