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Does this water drawn today look safe (Flint water declared safe)

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 05:17 am
@glitterbag,
I read some of the request for dismissal filed by the Atty Gen ans her crew. All I can see is that the ole chestnut that no lawyer likes to try somebody else's case.
Since the entire case also added a charge of "involuntary manslaughter" for one death (or more) related to the evidence that stated "without proof" the Legionnaires disease was "clearly"water borne. (That alone jeopardizes the entire case because they are not mre "counts")
Charging someone with a crime for something that the elected official FAILED to do is probably a losing case, so, lets see whether the Atty Gen WILL re investigate and bring new charges (since the original charges were dismissed without prejudice). I saw in the JUNE 2019 plea that the evidence for the manslaughter , basically, "Screws up the entire case ". This is based on Robertas rule that {{If you have one thing wrong you probably have othr things wrong also}}.
Maybe they are being square, we can always rectify it at the polls if they are being disingenuous.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 06:04 am
@farmerman,
I still don't understand why they didn't treat the river water (which should have been fine if properly treated). The treatments would not have even cost that much.

It's also still unclear to me who was responsible for this lack of treatment.

I also still don't understand how, after Flint went through all of that agony to build their own independent pipeline to get water direct from Lake Huron, they ended up back on Detroit's water supply.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2019 02:14 pm
@oralloy,
they would have had to spend tens of millions.The lead/copper rules ND THE arsenic mpl are relatively new rules and the water plant was built in the 50's when they werent made a big design issue. When Cu/Pb rules started it caused a lot of water plants to have to really UP the treatment. My guys designed and built the newest Atlantic City treatment becuse their water supply was contaminated by an old dump. So, they hadda add As.Pb/Cu level treatment when the new casinos were built. It cost about 25 million then and the state was kicking in som cash.

Flint was not a financially secure town. (But youre right, they should t least installed Carbon filtration and bigger sand filter beds. The biggest cost in GAC is the carbon, and they could expense that.

Im amzed at how the whole thing was done to maximize confusion and therefore give an appearance of "clean politics" to the state and city and Dept of Health.
Glad I dont live in Mich and am not poor. I got a well with more filters than a pack of Salems. Ive got natural arsenic, (from the pyrite in the bdrock) and Nitrates (from all the agriculture).
It appared that thir biggest argument was that they didnt know anything about the Legionella, the led an copper and anything of that nature "BECAUSE THEY DIDNT SAMPLE FOR IT"

What kinda addled brain morons you got out there?? Even their argument is retarded

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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jan, 2021 05:40 pm
New charges filed:
https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2021/01/flint-water-prosecutors-focus-on-legionnaires-deaths-in-charging-snyder-eight-others.html
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jan, 2021 06:02 am
@oralloy,
justice takes time in Michign eh?
Snyder was a member of both parties during his career no? I never trust venture capitalists to do anything regarding public health or afety.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jan, 2021 04:24 pm
@farmerman,
I'm skeptical of the charges against most of the state officials. Most of them had nothing to do with the decision to not add orthophosphate to treat the water.

I think the scrutiny should be focused on whoever was responsible for adding orthophosphate to treat the water, but didn't. And maybe whoever was responsible for seeing to it that this was done.

But even with the decision to not treat the water, this is more likely to be a good-faith screw-up rather than any sort of malicious act.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jan, 2021 08:18 pm
@farmerman,
I dug up a couple articles from University of Michigan Public Radio from back in 2015 in my efforts to figure out the decision to not treat the water with orthophosphates:

https://www.michiganradio.org/post/flint-had-no-plan-minimize-lead-corrosion-peoples-drinking-water-post-river-switch

https://www.michiganradio.org/post/after-ignoring-and-trying-discredit-people-flint-state-was-forced-face-problem
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jan, 2021 08:49 pm
@oralloy,
the lead/coppr ruls re in wffect for at least 20 yers an they ha EPA tchnical smarts behind it. Problem ha been that since Bush II,Obama, and TRUMP regimes, the EPA has become an MT glass with very poor monitoring. Thir science and med technical staffs have been replaced by toadies. I blame all of em, both parties.
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