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Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 10:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Bad manners do not kill people. Here in the US we don't charge people with "carelessness" even when it is extreme, ask Killary.
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 11:03 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Here in the US we don't charge people with "carelessness" even when it is extreme.
I don't know from where you got that he was charged: lawmakers have immunity here, which may be repealed by the parliament concerned.

Certainly "bad manners" don't kill people. But this shows clearly what a person thinks about the murder of a politician by someone from his couleur.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 11:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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I don't know from where you got that he was charged:

I did not say that. I said he would not be charged here in the US. Whether or not he was charged there. You are looking to hard to find anything to discredit my posts. Reading stuff into them does not work.
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 11:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Something again referring to the topic:

Anti-Islamic extremist permanently excluded from entering UK
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A prominent anti-Islamic extremist whose organisation is being investigated in Austria over links to the Christchurch shooting suspect has apparently been permanently excluded from entering the UK.

Martin Sellner, the Austrian leader of Generation Identity, was being excluded on security grounds and posed a serious threat to the UK’s interests of preventing social harm and countering extremism, according to a Home Office letter which has been posted online.

It added that Sellner, who was stopped from entering Britain at Stansted airport last year, was the co-founder and de facto leader of Generation Identity, “an organisation which actively promotes anti-Islamic and anti-immigration narratives and directly targets Islamic communities through publicity stunts”.

It had been assessed that he was likely to attempt to return to the UK, the letter stated, to provide support to Generation Identity’s UK branch and undertake publicity stunts which directly targeted Islamic and immigrant communities.

The home secretary, Sajid Javid, had authorised the exclusion order, according to the letter, which was publicised via Generation Identity’s Telegram channel.

Sellner has been subjected to further searches by Austrian police in connection with the Christchurch shooter, according to Austrian media reports and videos on Sellner’s YouTube channel.

The investigation, which was not mentioned in the Home Office letter, has also reportedly widened to include Sellner’s US-based partner, Brittany Pettibone, and her alleged connections with Blair Cottrell, an Australian far-right figure.

The Austrian newspaper Die Presse reported on 18 June that two apartments in Vienna had been searched by the prosecutor’s office in Graz. It has been investigating Sellner’s connections to the Australian Brenton Tarrant who is on trial for the murder in March of 51 people in Christchurch, New Zealand.

Sellner, in two German-language YouTube videos, offered his account of the investigation. In the first, which he said was before an interview with police, Sellner said officers had removed devices from his home, and that the reason was a “strong suspicion of forming a terrorist organisation with Brenton Tarrant”.

He has previously been denied entry to the UK in the company of at least one other far-right extremist as they attempted to attend a conference organised by counterparts in Britain.

Sellner and the Hungarian Ábel Bódi were planning to attend the private Generation Identity conference in London in April last year but were detained at Stansted airport.

It was the second time in a month that Sellner had been prevented from entering the UK by border officials.

Sellner was also the ringleader of a “defend Europe” campaign last summer, responsible for targeting boats attempting to rescue migrants in the Mediterranean.

The 29-year-old was first connected with Tarrant after it emerged the accused had made a €1,500 (£1,300) donation to Sellner’s organisation. Die Presse reported that prosecutors were looking for accounting records and evidence of further donations from Tarrant to Sellner.

Pettibone announced on her Twitter account last week that she had been notified she was under investigation. Pettibone, a prominent far-right YouTube activist, and Sellner were both refused entry to the UK when they landed at Luton airport in March last year.

The Home Office did not confirm or deny that Sellner had been excluded. A spokesperson said: “We do not routinely comment on individual cases.”

It said the home secretary may exclude an EEA national on the grounds of public policy, public security or public health if they are considered to pose a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests of society.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 12:03 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Anti-Islamic extremist

Now if they get rid pro-Islamist extremists it might makes a difference but they do not even deport rapists. Anti-Islamic is a good thing. Can you tell me one positive in Islam for the non-Muslim? And not what Muslims say, what Muhammad said. Muhammad is Islam. Find something positive if you can.
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 12:13 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
they do not even deport rapists.
Can you give some examples whe US-citizens, convicted for rape, were deported?

Btw: transportation of convicts to Australia ended when the last convict ship left Britain in 1867 and arrived in Australia on 10 January 1868.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 12:37 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Can you give some examples whe US-citizens, convicted for rape, were deported?

Not all rapists are citizens. Do not try to tell me they are.
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 01:08 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Not all rapists are citizens. Do not try to tell me they are.[
I've not said that all rapists are "citizens".
(But they are predominately UK-nationals - like those in Rochdale and Rotherham, who are often mentioned)

So again: how many US-citizen convicted for rape were deported?
Additional question: for what crimes does the USA deport citizens?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 02:45 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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for what crimes does the USA deport citizens?

You pulling my chain Walter? Citizens cannot be deported. You know that, I know that. Try again.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 09:56 pm
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East London is gradually becoming another Afghanistan

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Did the patrolling stop?

The unfortunate reply is negative. Instead, for past few years, each of the families in already Islamized East London are watched by a group of radical Muslims, who would immediate warn the head of the families once any of the female members are found wearing “indecent” attire or would be subject of bullying for not putting on hijab and burqa. Fearing such social wrath, most of the females in East London possess burqa or at least hijab and ultimately have accepted the practice as customary for living inside that heavily Islamized area in London.

Even despite the imprisonment of Sharia patrol gang in December 2013, Lama Hasan of ABC News and Alex Miller of Vice News had produced two documentaries in 2014 about the ongoing Sharia Patrols.

Right wing extremists would not make a boil on Islam's ass when it comes to problems the UK has. Why is this even allowed?
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/news/east-london-is-gradually-becoming-another-afghanistan/
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jun, 2019 10:28 pm
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‘All religions have extremists’, continues being peddled and it sounds credible. But committing acts of terror needs a motive. Islam provides a motive because the Quran not only divides humanity into two – into believers and unbelievers -, but also encourages in many verses fighting against unbelievers in the name of Allah. Quran 2.216 says, “Fighting is prescribed for you and you may dislike it.” It exhorts believers to follow the doctrine over their own wish or conscience. What are they meant to fight for? The goal is an Islamic state, which covers the whole world, as all other beliefs are seen as false.

A pious Muslim is meant to believe that Allah hates disbelievers, that he sends them to eternal hellfire and won’t have any mercy with them as they are the worst of all creatures (Q 98.6). To kill an unbeliever is therefore not a sin nor is it one to rape their women. Such ideology goes by the name of religion, is protected under the right to religious freedom, taught in schools, openly propagated on the internet by maulvis, and living by it is said to land you in paradise… Can anyone believe this?


Something that is ignored all over the world. Right now the UK has ignore on high. This article is about whitewashing Islamic terror with Hindu terror. Maybe that is what they are doing with the right wing in the UK, not maybe.
http://indiafacts.org/is-the-fake-narrative-of-hindu-terror-meant-to-whitewash-islamic-terror/
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Reply Thu 27 Jun, 2019 01:08 am
Extreme right groups Blood & Honour and Combat 18 were added to Canada's list of terrorist groups yesterday.
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Reply Thu 27 Jun, 2019 06:39 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
I'm a bit suspicious of these characterizations of people. Are the Muslims who attacked people in the public areas of Cologne a year or so ago considered to be "right wing"? Or alternatively does the label apply only to people who didn't like it?
From a pressconference today by the Minister for the Interior (and Building and Community):
According to the Verfassungsschutzbericht ("Annual Report on the Protection of the Constitution) about 5500 right-wing extremists are organised in parties such as the NPD, while 6600 belonged to non-party structures such as the Identitarian Movement. More than 13,000 are considered largely unstructured.

According to the Office for the Protection of the Constitution, violence motivated by right-wing extremism increased slightly last year. There were 1088 acts of violence with a right-wing extremist background. In 2017 there were 1054, with the number of attempted homicides rising from four to six. According to the figures, these were all motivated by xenophobia. By the end of 2018, a total of 19,409 crimes had been committed by "Politically motivated crime - right". A year earlier, the figure was 19,467.

The number of Islamists in Germany has also increased slightly. It rose last year by 750 to 26,560 people. Seehofer also spoke of a "high risk situation" in this area. An attack was possible at any time. The IS returnees from Syria and Iraq in particular represented a high security risk. "Islamist-motivated attacks are still possible," the report says. There was no Islamist terrorist attack in Germany last year. The secret service, however, writes of a "series of uncovered attack plans in various stages of preparation".
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jun, 2019 04:59 pm
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London’s Mayor Khan Blows £1m on Tackling ‘Far-Right Extremism’

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The meeting concluded with a promise to issue a joint declaration to tackle “hatred and intolerance by renewing and improving countering violent extremism activity across Europe,” along with implementing climate change policies.

Despite all this, the Mayor offered no word on his plans to properly tackle acid attacks and knife crime aside from posters urging criminals to give up their kitchen utensils. He refuses to be drawn on how he continues to criticize central government “cuts” in policing expenditure, while his office blows £1m on a report about extremism, instead of on front line policing.

The statistics speak for themselves. Recorded instances of knife-related crimes in London stand in the tens of thousands—a figure that Khan seems eager to sweep under the carpet as he refocuses his efforts to pursue the “far-right” bogeyman.


Not upsetting Islam is costly.
https://humanevents.com/2019/06/27/londons-mayor-khan-blows-1m-on-tackling-far-right-extremism/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FtDVB7zib4x
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 09:25 am
@Walter Hinteler,
German far-right group 'used police data to compile death list'
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A group of German rightwing extremists compiled a “death list” of leftwing and pro-refugee targets by accessing police records, then stockpiled weapons and ordered body bags and quicklime to kill and dispose of their victims, German media have reported, citing intelligence sources.

Germany’s general prosecutor had been investigating Nordkreuz (Northern Cross) since August 2017 on the suspicion the group was preparing a terrorist attack.

The 30-odd members of the group reportedly had close links to the police and military, and at least one member was still employed in the special commando unit of the state office of criminal investigations.

In the past, Nordkreuz was reported as being part of the “prepper” survivalist movement, whose followers prepare for doomsday scenarios such as the collapse of the prevailing social order.

However, a report by RedaktionsNetzwerk Deutschland, a Hanover-based research agency with links to smaller regional newspapers, suggested the group was actively preparing the ground for a mass attack on political enemies.

Members communicated via the encrypted messenger service Telegram, and accessed police computers to collect almost 25,000 names and addresses of local politicians who had played an active part in civic efforts during the refugee crisis in 2015, the report said.

Party members from the SPD, the Greens, Die Linke and Angela Merkel’s CDU were reportedly on the list, which focused on local politics in the eastern states of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Brandenburg.

The group had also allegedly ordered 200 body bags and quicklime, which can be used to speed up the decay of a corpse and cover up its smell.

Three members of Nordkreuz were being separately investigated by a prosecutor in Schwerin for illegal possession of more than 10,000 bullets as well as long- and short-range weapons.

The group is said to deny having planned the murder of the people on the lists.

The report came a few weeks after the murder of a pro-refugee politician by a rightwing extremist, and amid a growing debate about whether Germany’s domestic intelligence agency, the BfV, has underestimated the threat posed by the militant far right.

Thursday’s annual BfV report noted a slight fall in the number of offences by extreme right groups registered in 2018, but also a rise in the number of violent crimes committed by these groups.

Overall numbers of sympathisers for extremist positions on the far right, the far left and in Islamism had all slightly increased over the last year, the report noted.

It made no mention of Nordkreuz, fuelling criticism that the agency had been turning a blind eye to the threat of neo-Nazi terrorism.

Earlier this week, the detained far-right extremist Stephan Ernst confessed to murdering the CDU politician Walter Lübcke. The head of the Kassel regional government was found dead outside his house on 2 June.

Two more men were arrested over the case on Thursday, one for selling the weapon allegedly used in the killing, the other on suspicion of setting up the contact between the gun-seller and Ernst.

Ernst reportedly admitted being incensed by Lübcke’s comments at a town hall meeting he had attended in October 2015. At the meeting, held to discuss a new asylum seeker shelter, Lübcke said: “One has to stand up for values here. And those who don’t do so can leave this country any time if they don’t like it. That’s the freedom of every German.”
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 01:40 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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German far-right group 'used police data to compile death list'

The Koran pretty much covers that for the Islamists.
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 01:52 pm
@coldjoint,
Father, forgive him, for he knows not what he writes.
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Reply Fri 28 Jun, 2019 02:37 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Father, forgive him, for he knows not what he writes.

Hardly your place Walter. Do you have a Messiah complex? I know exactly what I write.
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2019 10:50 pm
Several journalists, who reported about the extreme right-wing scene in my state, got death threads with anthrax-hoax letters yesterday.
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Reply Wed 3 Jul, 2019 11:43 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Several journalists,

Don't know their names? Non- story.
 

 
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