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Far-right activists banned from entering Britain

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2019 06:12 pm
Since I said I'd do Brexit and move on there's been a significant vote in the Commons.

Quote:
MPs have voted to take control of Commons business in an unprecedented move to try to find a majority for any Brexit option.

The government was defeated by 329 votes to 302 on the cross-party amendment, a majority of 27.

It means MPs will get a series of votes on Wednesday to find out what kind of Brexit they will support.

Prime Minister Theresa May has said there is no guarantee she will abide by their decision.

But Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn, who had backed the amendment tabled by Conservative Sir Oliver Letwin, said the government "must take the process seriously".

He added: "The government has failed and this House must, and I believe will, succeed."

He said MPs would want to find a consensus on the way forward, including a possible "confirmatory vote" on the PM's deal by the public - something Mrs May told MPs earlier she did not want because Remain would be on the ballot paper.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47701591

More at link.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 26 Mar, 2019 06:26 am
@izzythepush,
Coming back to the far and extreme right but (to please our resident neo-Nazi) not from the UK:
Austrian authorities have searched the home of a prominent far-right activist as part of a probe into his ties to the alleged Christchurch mosque gunman, officials said on Tuesday.

Key points:
Head of the Identitarian Movement of Austria, Martin Sellner, said police searched his apartment on Monday.
They seized electronic devices after Sellner received money from a person with the same surname as the New Zealand shooter.
Prosecutors stumbled across the donation as part of an existing probe into Sellner over possible financial offences.
The head of the white nationalist group Identitarian Movement of Austria, Martin Sellner, said on social media that police searched his apartment on Monday.

They seized electronic devices after Sellner received a "disproportionately high donation" [his own words] from a person named Tarrant — the same surname as the suspected Christchurch shooter (and who had been to various places in Austria).
The investigation against Sellner is based on Austrian anti-terror laws - Sellner said he only got the money because the Australian wanted to pull him into the right corner.

And before the tirade about governments and laws in Europe starts again: Austria has a coalition government, formed by the centre-right "Austrian People's Party" (Österreichische Volkspartei [ÖVP]), a Christian-democratic conservative party, and the "Freedom Party of Austria" ( Freiheitliche Partei Österreichs [FPÖ]), a right-wing populist, pan-Germanists and nationalist party.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 26 Mar, 2019 06:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
It's a growing problem, all terrorism needs to be resisted and condemned, not just that perpetrated by people with brown skin.

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Far-right extremism poses the biggest security threat to northern England, a counter-terrorism expert has warned.

Speaking anonymously to BBC News, the former Home Office specialist said the threat of right-wing terrorism was not being taken seriously.

Last year, the highest number of right-wing referrals to counter-terrorism programme Prevent came from the north.

The government said it recognised far-right extremism was an emerging threat.

However, the UK's security services said extreme Islamist-based terrorism remained the country's most pressing national security concern.

In the aftermath of the Christchurch mosque shootings in New Zealand, "Simon" - who worked as a counter-terrorism specialist for the Home Office - said the north of England faced a growing danger from far-right extremists and neo-Nazis.

"We've got former mill towns and cities across the north where this ideology, that white people are supposedly superior to everyone else, is growing and becoming more entrenched.

"I've no doubt that there are far-right extremists across the north who are planning to use violence to target Muslim or Jewish communities.

"They'll harbour the ambition to copy what happened in Christchurch.

He added: "We've already seen in Yorkshire how this extreme ideology has been used to target members of Parliament."

Labour MP Jo Cox was murdered in her West Yorkshire constituency in 2016 by Thomas Mair, who was described in court as a lonely Nazi sympathiser.

Prof Matthew Feldman, director of the Centre for Analysis of the Radical Right, said the threat of right-wing extremists carrying out an atrocity in the UK similar to the Christchurch shootings remained low.

"The biggest barrier to the far right, is the fact that in the UK we have extremely tight gun laws."

"The far-right do represent a threat to some communities in our country, but more often than not, these are people who are alone online, radicalising themselves, so they don't have a direct support network that could help them to gain access to weapons."

Statistics from the government's counter terrorism programme Prevent shows that regions in the north accounted for the highest number of initial referrals for right-wing extremism in 2017-18.

The number of religious or racially motivated hate crimes in England and Wales, increased from 37,417 in 2013-14 to 79,587 in 2017-18, according to the Home Office.

Labour MP Naz Shah said there was a definitive link between a rise in levels of hate crime and support for extreme far-right groups.

"We've seen across the country a rise in Islamaphobia and race hate crimes - this hatred is fuelling support of the far right," the Bradford West MP said.

"I've been talking about this problem for years, and it is a growing issue and one that I don't think the government is talking seriously enough."

Addressing the House of Commons earlier this week, Security Minister Ben Wallace acknowledged far-right extremism was a growing problem.

He added that the UK's counter-terrorism strategy was designed to address all forms of terrorism, whatever ideology it was driven by, and funding would be directed "wherever the threat emerges".

Det Ch Supt Martin Snowden, head of Counter Terrorism Policing North East, said his officers had brought a number of successful prosecutions against extreme right-wing suspects in recent years.

"We are committed to tackling all forms of toxic extremist ideology which has the potential to threaten public safety."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47645863<br />

I don't want to please neo Nazis so I've highlighted the bit that will piss them off.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 26 Mar, 2019 07:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
As a footnote, governments all governments it would seems seize people computer hardwares as the very first step in any investigation of any nature, so why the hell do not more people as a matter of course encrypted their computers and other digital information?

As far as I know, I have nothing illegal on any of my computers however the very first action with any new computer is to encrypted the hard drives.

I would never have a 'naked' computer in my life.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 26 Mar, 2019 11:06 am
@izzythepush,
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I don't want to please neo Nazis

Then why do you? The UK government are the Neo-Nazis and what you say is lockstep with the propaganda they and their controlled media spout.

I do not expect anything near the truth from you, and neither should anyone else.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 07:10 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The Austrian Kurz confirmed today that there was a financial link between the man who killed 50 people in the mass shootings at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and the far-right Identitarian Movement in Austria.
Kurz said Austria was looking into dissolving the Identitarian Movement. "Our position on this is very clear, no kind of extremism whatsoever - whether it’s radical Islamists or right-wing extremist fanatics - has any place in our society" the Austrian Chancellor said.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 07:33 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Since I said I'd do Brexit and move on there's been a significant vote in the Commons.


In an very sad way it kind of nice to know that the mother country is as mess up as the US is under Trump.

You also are into doing pointless things , as in the US it is a worthless physical wall on our border and with you it is totally worthless digital wall in an attempt to block porn sites on the net for the underage.

Too bad that VPNs and even tor are well known to the younger set.

At least the two governments are into making the older and clueless voters feel safer behind worthless walls of one kind or another.

To say nothing of this UK policy resulting in a ever increasing percent of their total internet users going dark as far as the government is concern.

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 01:52 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Kurz said Austria was looking into dissolving the Identitarian Movement. "Our position on this is very clear, no kind of extremism whatsoever - whether it’s radical Islamists or right-wing extremist fanatics - has any place in our society" the Austrian Chancellor said.

Lip service.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 02:00 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Lip service.
Though I'm certainly not a supporter of Kurz, his party and especially the current Austrian government - why do you get/know/guess that it is a lip service?
Certainly - and facts show - this Austrian government (and even more, some state governments) is ... well, nearly on your line. (Fortunately not completely, thanks to the Austrian constitution, human rights and such)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 02:01 pm
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Austria police arrest IS plot suspect in Vienna raid

As anyone can see right wing extremism is not the problem.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47719402
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 02:03 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Kurz sounds a lot like Kurtz. "Exterminate all the brutes!"
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 02:05 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Certainly - and facts show - this Austrian government (and even more, some state governments) is ... well, nearly on your line. (Fortunately not completely, thanks to the Austrian constitution, human rights and such)

Put a sock in it.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 02:12 pm
@coldjoint,
Thank you for the detailed and well-founded explanation for your above reply.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 02:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Thank you for the detailed and well-founded explanation for your above reply.

Don't quit your day job, you are just not funny.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 08:20 pm
Quote:
The Emerging Populist Majority
Europe finds itself at crossroads as elections for the European Parliament approach. Patrick Sullivan looks at how the surge in support for Populist Parties could change the EU.

Good news for people that value their culture and face facts.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/7338/the_emerging_populist_majority
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 09:58 pm
You really shouldn't be pushing white power publications, it makes Americans look like idiots.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 09:59 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
white power publications,

Prove that accusation. Or don't bother to reply.
Quote:
it makes Americans look like idiots.

Who cares what the world thinks, especially Western Europe?
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 10:28 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

As anyone can see right wing extremism is not the problem.

Yeah, everything is just peachy with right wing extremism.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 11:07 pm
@InfraBlue,
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Yeah, everything is just peachy with right wing extremism.

You know what, I'll take your word on it. You are much more familiar with hate.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 27 Mar, 2019 11:24 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Allowing the NRA to shoot up schools and indiscriminately butcher children when the majority wants sane gun laws is an affront to democracy and freedom.

The NRA is not shooting up schools or butchering children.

The NRA is able to block unconstitutional laws because of democracy and freedom. The NRA is composed of voters. We get what we want because we vote.
 

 
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