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Our love affair with trains.

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2018 07:18 am
The C, B & Q--the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy--grew to be a real railroad powerhouse by the 1930's, and was still robust in both passenger and freight service as late as the 1970s. Usually referred to as the Burlington Line, it bought up a lot of small regional railroads, just as the Soo Line did.

This is a shot of the club car of one of the Burlington's passenger trains in the 1930s:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Club_car_Denver_and_Chicago_Limited_Burlington_Route_1915.JPG

Many of its passenger trains had different names depending on whether they were eastbound or westbound. The club car shown above was a part of the Chicago Limited when eastbound, and the Denver Limited when westbound. The Zephyr was the "flagship" passenger train. This is the C, B & Q steam locomotive #3003 at the Burlington Line Museum in Burlington, Iowa:

http://edminardphotography.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p475411041-3.jpg

The Zephyr is still in business, running between Chicago and San Francisco, and between Winter Park, Florida (outside Orlando) through the Southwest to various destinations in California. Amtrak calls it the California Zephyr.

https://www.seat61.com/images/USA-california-zephyr.jpg

http://publications.newberry.org/cbqempire/img/CBandQ-home.jpg

http://www.ashlandhistoricalsociety.org/siteimages/burlington-route-2-logo.gif
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2018 07:19 am
Centrox, you could tell us about the great British railway companies before they were nationalized.
centrox
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2018 08:35 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Centrox, you could tell us about the great British railway companies before they were nationalized.

In the 19th century, railways were promoted by private companies who raised share capital and usually linked two end points, providing the railway name, e.g. Liverpool and Manchester, London, Brighton and South Coast. As the century wore on, the bigger, more successful companies swallowed up the smaller ones, until by around 1900 there were a number of big companies, each covering a geographic area, and some smaller ones. Each railway had its own locomotive works - unlike in the US, where independent loco manufacturers (e.g. Baldwin, seem to have been the norm. Each British railway had a Chief Mechanical Engineer who designed the rolling stock, either personally or as head of a team. These tended to be strong personalities. Motive power policies varied between companies. The Midland Railway, for example, had a "small engine" policy, that is, they did not build very large and powerful locos, so that heavy trains might be hauled by two medium sized machines. When you build a railway you can either build expensive, and run cheap, or the other way around. That is, you can spend a lot of money making the railway as level and straight as you can, using tunnels, viaducts, cuttings, embankments, etc, in which case you will save money on running costs (coal, mainly) or you can build, more cheaply, a line which meanders around hills or goes up one side and down the other, in which case you need more powerful locos which use more coal, and wear out more quickly. A busy line between two big cities is likely to attract a lot of traffic, so would be built to be fast and direct, while a rural branch line would be rambling and follow the contours of the landscape. Often two companies would be rivals for traffic between the same places. During the First World War, the government took over control of the railways, and after the war, didn't really want to give it back again. In 1922 the government forced all of the railways to merge into 4 companies (the "Big Four") - the London, Midland and Scottish, the Southern, the Great Western, and the London and North Eastern. This was called the "Grouping". This situation lasted until 1948, when the state nationalised the Big Four into one state-owned organisation called British Railways. In 1994, a Tory government abolished that setup, and, placing the tracks and infrastructure in the hands of one company, sold concessions to private companies to run services in different areas of the country, these areas often coinciding with the areas of the pre-Grouping companies. It is no secret that this has not been a huge success.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2018 09:16 am
Thanks, Boss.
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centrox
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2018 02:07 pm
Another thing - a date that many older British railway enthusiasts will remember is the date the last steam train ran on British Railways, 11 August, 1968. A special train was run, called the "The Fifteen Guinea Special", so-called because of the price of the ticket - a guinea is a old-fashioned sum of money, one pound and one shilling. There were twenty shillings to the pound.

There has since been a big revival in the use of preserved engines to run special trains on the main line, and there has even been a completely new engine built, the Tornado, a copy of a 1940s design. She was allowed to run at 100 mph for a record attempt in 2017, and the event was very wiely followed, even by people who aren't specially interested in trains. Of course the big loco star is the Flying Scotsman, known to many as simply "4472".







Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2018 02:50 pm
Heitor Villa-Lobos wrote a series of compositions in the 1920s, -30s and -40s called the Bachiana Brasileiras. These employed musical themes from J. S. Bach, modified by the musical idiom of Brazil. This is the Bachiana Brasileira number 2:

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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2018 02:52 pm
@centrox,
Great video, Boss, thanks.
coluber2001
 
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Reply Sat 10 Mar, 2018 09:15 pm
Arthur Honegger wrote a piece of music called Pacific 231 a programmatic piece describing a Pacific class locomotive with the wheel designation 2-3-1 (4-6-2 in America). He said he was inspired by listening to the country music song Orange Blossom Special. Honegger said the music wasn't imitating the sound of the locomotive but rather the locomotive metaphorically through music.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T9u7_WAkAPw.

http://i.skyrock.net/7065/89037065/pics/3193424173_1_2_U1lrPXeg.jpg
This is a 2-3-1 locomotive.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2018 11:16 am
@Setanta,
Ive transferred those two "Onomatopoeic pieces into my "O" playlist to be with Mike Posts subway piece that was the theme for NYPD BLue. ALong with "Boom Shakalakah"



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coluber2001
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2018 11:50 am
Starting a diesel locomotive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dUEl9IkNmM4
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2018 08:04 pm
Ride the Ferrocarril Central Andino in Peru. Part 3. Altitude of 12,247 ft. 20 minute video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aumZ2F45ibU
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Mon 12 Mar, 2018 02:07 pm
Postojna (Slovenia) cave train ride. First backwards, then forwards. 20 minute video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u3CE6hzDE0A
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Mon 12 Mar, 2018 07:00 pm
Long Alpine Coaster.

https://youtu.be/MUVFiNVRvEU
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Mon 12 Mar, 2018 07:11 pm
Smoky Mountain Alpine Coaster. 5 minutes to climb and 2 minutes to descend.

https://youtu.be/QzVGf-K2heg
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Mon 12 Mar, 2018 07:22 pm
Alpine Slide coaster in Breckenridge. Open shute coasting, ( dry toboggan) not without Danger.

https://youtu.be/yvERb0C1Pvs
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Mon 12 Mar, 2018 09:34 pm
Ride the Ferrocarril Central Andino in Peru reaching Patio Galera at Km 172.7, altitude 15,681 ft. World's highest tunnel, over half a mile long.
End of journey.

https://youtu.be/6cyCOCaCkh0
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 13 Mar, 2018 12:04 am
@coluber2001,
Not really about trains but about rails ... and ships on rails: the Elblag Canal with a system of inclined planes between lakes.




An historic film:
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 13 Mar, 2018 08:04 am
Ridin' on the City of New Orleans
Illinois Central, Monday mornin' rail
Fifteen cars and fifteen resetless riders
Three conductors, and twenty-five sacks of mail.


Those lines are from the Steven Goodman song, performed by Arlo Guthrie, which I posted earlier in this thread. The Illinois Central Railroad was established by a land grant of the Illinois legislature in 1851--the first land grant railroad in the United States. It later, and rather quickly became the longest railroad then in operation in the world (mid-1850s). The corporate attorney for the IC was Abraham Lincoln; the IC's chief and construction engineer was George McClellan. Those two gentlemen would run into one another again, in 1861 and 1862. Below is a photo of the roundhouse of the IC at the Chicago and Northwestern rail yard in 1942.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7b/74/d5/7b74d56ebac8088c13fa70b188b2834e--train-museum-railroad-pictures.jpg

After the American civil war, the IC acquired several small railroads in the South, and most notably, the Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad, becomingthe Illinois Central and Gulf Railroad. A few years after Mr. Goodman wrote the song, the IC operated more than 8000 miles of railroad, on more than 13,000 miles of track. The railroad had more than 300 million passenger miles, and hauled more than 33 billion ton-miles of revenue freight. It was purchased by CN, the Canadian National railways in 1998, for about two and a half billion U.S. dollars.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9f/b9/39/9fb9395b1e970ac7a84f4a48a4abd5a4--the-railroad-railroad-tracks.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/d7/e3/3e/d7e33e8b5bf574f4edfbee55013f2c10--illinois-rail.jpg
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Tue 13 Mar, 2018 10:09 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I've never seen anything like that, Walter. It's what I would call true Intermodal transportation. I was especially intrigued by the black and white film of the boat loaded with wood posts first being poled, then sailed, pulled by rope, then hauled up on rails and transported over land. What an effort!
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Thu 15 Mar, 2018 01:18 pm
Brave Dave, freight train hopping.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g6qpwdQfEh0
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