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Global Warming...New Report...and it ain't happy news

 
 
BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 12:43 pm
I note that Mr. Walter Hinteler has made an appearance. I would hope that he would contribute towards giving information which bears on the title of this thread. The thread is about Global Warming and some on this thread have conversed but others, either unable to reply or frightened of the effect the evidence presented would have on thier thesis, have not replied.

Therefore, In a effort to move on, I will remind Mr. Parados that he has not responded to a post of mine which is CRITICAL to the understanding of this question--
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 11:05 am
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Study: Undersea gas could speed global warming
If the world continues to get warmer, vast amounts of methane gas trapped in ice under the sea could belch up and worsen climate change, according to a study.
"We may have less time than we think to do something (about the prospect of global warming)," Dr. Ira Leifer, a marine scientist at University of California Santa Barbara, said in an interview.

Leifer is the main author of a study that looks at how "peak blowouts" of melting undersea formations called methane hydrates could release the potent greenhouse gas into the atmosphere. The study was published Thursday in Global Biogeochemical Cycles, a climate science publication.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2006-07-21-undersea-gas_x.htm
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 11:09 am
So methane is the main problem now, not CO2? I'm really confused now. And scared.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 12:26 pm
okie wrote:
So methane is the main problem now, not CO2? I'm really confused now. And scared.
you'll be ok okie, just dont fart.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 01:17 pm
Did you read the simple statement okie?

co2 could cause the ice to melt which would increase methane which might make the models too low for warming.
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xingu
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 01:35 pm
This is from last August. Don't know if there's been an update on this since then.

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THE world's largest frozen peat bog is melting. An area stretching for a million square kilometres across the permafrost of western Siberia is turning into a mass of shallow lakes as the ground melts, according to Russian researchers just back from the region.

The sudden melting of a bog the size of France and Germany combined could unleash billions of tonnes of methane, a potent greenhouse gas, into the atmosphere.

The news of the dramatic transformation of one of the world's least visited landscapes comes from Sergei Kirpotin, a botanist at Tomsk State University, Russia, and Judith Marquand at the University of Oxford.

Kirpotin describes an "ecological landslide that is probably irreversible and is undoubtedly connected to climatic warming". He says that the entire western Siberian sub-Arctic region has begun to melt, and this "has all happened in the last three or four years".


http://www.newscientist.com/channel/earth/mg18725124.500
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jul, 2006 09:18 pm
parados wrote:
Did you read the simple statement okie?

co2 could cause the ice to melt which would increase methane which might make the models too low for warming.


I did read the simple statement, Parados, and I am downright frightened to death. After CO2 does its thing, its the domino effect, yes, the tipping point that Al Gores been talking about, and the dreaded methane kicks in, then its curtains for sure.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 06:57 am
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Warming climate could alter weather, farming in the Midwest
By Alan Bjerga
McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON - Last week's heat wave may have felt like something Midwesterners had never experienced before. But scientists are confident they'll get more chances to experience it again as climate change encourages more extreme weather.


Higher temperatures and more turbulent weather will affect everything in the Midwest - from what trees dot the landscape to what wildlife roams the region to what crops farmers raise to how cities allocate water.


Weather unpredictability would make dry years more common and wet years less effective for crop-growing. The result could be more reliance on crops such as dryland wheat and cotton and less reliance on corn and other rain-intensive crops.


But because the variables in the Midwest haven't been explored as deeply as on the more heavily populated coasts, the overall impact of global warming on Midwestern agriculture remains unclear, said Chuck Rice, a Kansas State University agronomist.


"In the middle part of the country, the (research) models aren't as good," he said.


While heat waves come and go, a gradual increase in Earth's atmospheric "greenhouse gases" is expected to make global weather more volatile over the next century, giving the Midwest more extremes like last week's 110-degree days.


The trend toward more severe weather could change the Midwest significantly in upcoming decades. And though government response has been quiet so far, those who study global warming say citizens and governments need to wake up to the problem now.
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/15094471.htm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 07:18 am
Drought, gales and refugees: what will happen as UK hots up

As this week's heatwave shows, climate change will affect almost every aspect of British life. But how? We examine the likely outcomes in coming decades

A big report in today's The Guardian (pages 12-13)

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6563/zwischenablage01kp8.jpg

Online version of that report
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 10:35 am
blatham, The hot weather has already impacted many farmers in California. The grape-wine industry is afraid of what this heat is doing to the grape vines.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 10:54 am
120 degrees in South Dakota (unofficial)
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xingu
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 12:51 pm
120 in SD. Jez, I thought only Yuma got that hot.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 12:52 pm
,,.and Death Valley.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 12:54 pm
Some interesting info on hottest.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 01:27 pm
Just got an e-mail from an old classmate that now practices dentistry in South Dakota. He says its a toasty 89% where he is. 90% in Albuquerque which is probably pretty normal for this time of year.

The most miserable summer I ever spent was in north central Kansas in the 1970's when we had day after day of record setting 100+ degree temperatures. Around that time one of the international summits to combat the global threat due to human caused global cooling was meeting.

The planet is probably in a warming cycle and this may even be exacerbated by human activity, but we can't judge that by today's weather I think.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2006 01:41 pm
Because of shorter winters, smaller snowfalls and early springs the danger of forest fires is increasing in the Western U.S.; Australia, Siberia and parts of Europe.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 01:03 am
http://i5.tinypic.com/20rkccm.jpg

100ยบ - get used to it







Lord, it is time. Let the great summer go,
Lay your long shadows on the sundials,
And over harvest piles let the winds blow.

Command the last fruits to be ripe;
Grant them some other southern hour,
Urge them to completion, and with power
Drive final sweetness to the heavy grape.

...
(Rainer Maria Rilke)

But that will last some weeks until it becomes true.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 12:45 pm
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Animals are on the run. Plants are migrating too. The Earth's creatures, save for one species, do not have thermostats in their living rooms that they can adjust for an optimum environment. Animals and plants are adapted to specific climate zones, and they can survive only when they are in those zones. Indeed, scientists often define climate zones by the vegetation and animal life that they support. Gardeners and bird watchers are well aware of this, and their handbooks contain maps of the zones in which a tree or flower can survive and the range of each bird species.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/19131
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 12:54 pm
Some of my hearty plants are turning brown...
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jul, 2006 01:58 pm
canada reports increased risk from forest fires .
currently the fire count stands at 5,600 , the average for the last ten years is 4200 , that is an increse of about 30 % Exclamation
many fires in remote areas are left to burn . if no settlements are in the path of the fire , it is often considered best to let the fire burn and hope for a wet fall .
some years ago there were largescale forest fires in newfoundland and it was not possible to extinguish the fires . it was thought that the fires would die out over the winter .
when spring came , it was found that the earth and rocks were still hot enough to start a new fire .
hbg

...CANADA - FOREST FIRES...
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