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THE MEANING OF OZ - All you need to know!

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jun, 2023 09:47 pm
@roger,
When I lived in Indonesia, it could be quit a problem. Especially late at night and half drunk. I got lucky sometimes - I do believe!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jun, 2023 10:00 pm
@BillW,
Had friends doing R&R in Thailand during the Viet Nam war who discovered a whole new world of **** from Thai police who are tough and were absolutely sick and tired of drunken GI traffic hijinks.

I have no problems taking a cab.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jun, 2023 10:13 pm
@roger,
Quote:
Or you could just decide to drive on the right side of the road. That's why they call it "right", you know.


Cool it with the biblical oppression Roger ;-)

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e3/f9/67/e3f96793468089096743da75514daeca.jpg
BillW
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jun, 2023 10:15 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I went to Thailand a couple of times when I was in Indonesia. One time they were giving all their shrines, Buddha's and such facelifts by hammering gold leaf onto them. Gold leaf was flying all through the air. I collected a few leaves for souvenirs.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jun, 2023 10:17 pm
@roger,
I think I can see your house from here Laughing

https://wwu.stefanfreelan.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/MetricMap-1024x566.jpg
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 12:16 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

Quote:
Or you could just decide to drive on the right side of the road. That's why they call it "right", you know.


Cool it with the biblical oppression Roger ;-)

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e3/f9/67/e3f96793468089096743da75514daeca.jpg


We drive on the right side of our cars.

Checkmate 🤣
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 12:16 am
This was shared around twitter a bit today (back on the #VoteYes23 thing)

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7d/e2/68/7de268421a87e6b1456dba413e81d6b2.jpg
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 12:49 am
It goes back to the days of riding a horse while carrying a sword.

Most people are right handed and would carry their sword on the left.

That meant their swords would smash against each other if tgey rode on the right hand side, no such problem on the left.
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 12:58 am
@izzythepush,
That's an intriguing theory, but doesn't explain why mainland Europe doesn't have the same system.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 01:21 am
@hingehead,
Napoleon.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 08:57 am
@hingehead,
They didn't have any swords.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 09:02 am
@BillW,
That's cool. I collected some gold leaf from a factory we cleared, was amazed for as much as gold weighs, how light a jar full of leaf frags were. Still, my daughters were amused by it. I taught them how to apply it and we had golden Barbies and Kens.
BillW
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 09:18 am
@bobsal u1553115,
And it was just floating in the air in Bangkok!
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 06:57 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Napoleon.

On the off chance you aren't making a joke, Napoleon came long after cavalry swords, and left long before they stopped being used in Europe. The idea of sticking to a particular side of the road would have been ingrained centuries before cars, wouldn't it?
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 08:53 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

It goes back to the days of riding a horse while carrying a sword.

Most people are right handed and would carry their sword on the left.

That meant their swords would smash against each other if tgey rode on the right hand side, no such problem on the left.



I discovered exactly the same thing when I researched a bit years ago, in yet another discussion with Americans about which side of the road we drive on.

Side note, click baiters on social media often ask "can you drive a stick". And yes, I can, having learned in one and did my driving test in one. But I would seriously question my ability to drive a stick shift if it had to be changed by my right hand. Even thinking about it feels unnatural.
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 09:07 pm
@Wilso,
It's weird, but I find driving in Europe perfectly normal. Although I haven't done it in a manual since 2010. My brain somehow can switch really easily.

As Mrs Hinge says "Just remember to 'keep the bitch in the ditch'".

i.e. keep your passenger on the kerbside and you're fine wherever you're driving (provided you're driving a car made for that country).
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 09:13 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
They didn't have any swords.


I'm guessing this is a joke too? Because like, crusades, feudalism, etc
Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 10:57 pm
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

It's weird, but I find driving in Europe perfectly normal. Although I haven't done it in a manual since 2010. My brain somehow can switch really easily.

As Mrs Hinge says "Just remember to 'keep the bitch in the ditch'".

i.e. keep your passenger on the kerbside and you're fine wherever you're driving (provided you're driving a car made for that country).


Only foreign country I've driven in is Thailand. Left side of the road, right hand drive.

Back in my motorcycling days, US would have been SUPER dangerous, because unlike a car - no frame of reference!
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 11:03 pm
https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Why-do-the-British-drive-on-the-left/#:~:text=Traffic%20congestion%20in%2018th%20century,adopted%20throughout%20the%20British%20Empire.

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Why do the British drive on the left?

Have you ever wondered why the British drive on the left?

There is an historical reason for this; it’s all to do with keeping your sword hand free!

In the Middle Ages you never knew who you were going to meet when travelling on horseback. Most people are right-handed, so if a stranger passed by on the right of you, your right hand would be free to use your sword if required. (Similarly, most Norman castle staircases spiral in a clockwise direction going upwards, so the defending soldiers would be able to stab down around the twist but those attacking (going up the stairs) would not.)

Indeed the ‘keep to the left’ rule goes back even further in time; archaeologists have discovered evidence suggesting that the Romans drove carts and wagons on the left, and it is known that Roman soldiers always marched on the left.

This ‘rule of the road’ was officially sanctioned in 1300 AD when Pope Boniface VIII declared that all pilgrims travelling to Rome should keep to the left.

This continued until the late 1700s when large wagons became popular for transporting goods. These wagons were drawn by several pairs of horses and had no driver’s seat. Instead, in order to control the horses, the driver sat on the horse at the back left, thus keeping his whip hand free. Sitting on the left however made it difficult to judge the traffic coming the other way, as anyone who has driven a left-hand drive car along the winding lanes of Britain will agree!

These huge wagons were best suited to the wide open spaces and large distances of Canada and the US, and the first keep-to-the-right law was passed in Pennsylvania in 1792, with many Canadian and US states following suit later.

In France a decree of 1792 ordered traffic to keep to the “common” right and Napoleon later enforced the rule in all French territories.

In Britain there wasn’t much call for these massive wagons and the smaller British vehicles had seats for the driver to sit on behind the horses. As most people are right-handed, the driver would sit to the right of the seat so his whip hand was free.

Traffic congestion in 18th century London led to a law being passed to make all traffic on London Bridge keep to the left in order to reduce collisions. This rule was incorporated into the Highway Act of 1835 and was adopted throughout the British Empire.

There was a movement in the 20th century towards the harmonisation of road laws in Europe and a gradual shift began from driving on the left to the right. The last Europeans to change from left to right were the Swedes who bravely made the change overnight on Dagen H (H Day), September 3rd 1967. At 4.50am all traffic in Sweden stopped for ten minutes before restarting, this time driving on the right.

Today, only 35% of countries drive on the left. These include India, Indonesia, Ireland, Malta, Cyprus, Japan, New Zealand, Australia and most recently, Samoa in 2009. Most of these countries are islands but where land borders require a change from left to right, this is usually accomplished using traffic lights, cross-over bridges, one-way systems or similar.


hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jun, 2023 11:53 pm
@Wilso,
At least now I know why Izzy said 'Napoleon'.

The Macau/mainland China bridge that switches from left hand to right hand driving is pretty spectacular.
http://triviahappy.com/images/articles/03042014lotus.jpg

https://triviahappy.com/articles/the-unique-bridge-that-helps-cars-change-direction-between-countries
 

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