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THE MEANING OF OZ - All you need to know!

 
 
Builder
 
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Reply Sat 31 Oct, 2020 08:12 pm
So, the Labor party wins in QLD with at least a 4% swing.

So much for the fear and loathing campaign, though both parties were doing it.
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Builder
 
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Reply Sun 1 Nov, 2020 02:22 am
And it looks like the voters have told Clive (how big is my lunch box?) Palmer what they think of his bullshit; not a single seat won.

Almost the same result for Pauline, and her PHONies. Just the one seat.
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Builder
 
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Reply Mon 9 Nov, 2020 03:42 pm
Anyone read sign language?

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Builder
 
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Reply Mon 23 Nov, 2020 03:01 am
I was quite startled to find that the really hard case prisoners sent from England to Port Arthur, weren't cannibals or career rapists or murderers.

Their only crime was political dissidence.


They sent the loudest voices of protest at their actions, half the way around the planet, and then put staff in place, to make sure they could never come back.
Put yourself in those shoes.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 23 Nov, 2020 05:31 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
I was quite startled to find that the really hard case prisoners sent from England to Port Arthur, weren't cannibals or career rapists or murderers.
Serious crimes, such as rape and murder, became transportable offences in the 1830's
However, since the more serious crimes were punishable by death, only very few convicts of those crimes were transported.
Convict Records

These prisoners weren't just sent from "England" but from several British and Irish ports.
Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 23 Nov, 2020 03:21 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Builder wrote:
I was quite startled to find that the really hard case prisoners sent from England to Port Arthur, weren't cannibals or career rapists or murderers.
Serious crimes, such as rape and murder, became transportable offences in the 1830's
However, since the more serious crimes were punishable by death, only very few convicts of those crimes were transported.
Convict Records

These prisoners weren't just sent from "England" but from several British and Irish ports.


The biggest mistake the British ever made was sending convicts to Australia and keeping their cold, grey shithole for themselves. We definitely got the best end of that deal.
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Builder
 
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Reply Mon 23 Nov, 2020 03:59 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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These prisoners weren't just sent from "England" but from several British and Irish ports.


Photo-copies of the staff/wardens et al at Port Arthur are on display for tourists to read, Walter, and indeed, there were Irish dissidents, who made up the bulk of the prisoners in the Circle of Silence prison. They were to have no contact with any other prisoner, getting their hour in the sun also in solitude.

Like any of the colonial outposts, skilled trades were required, to help build the place. I read some of the diary entries of these men, and recall one saying that the timber they were forced to use, wasn't at all suitable for the task of making joinery, and they were plagued by shrinkage and warping, allowing the roaring forties gales entry to their dwellings.

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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Nov, 2020 04:22 pm
@Builder,
Which is why there are so many people of Irish descent here. George Megalogenis posits that one of the successes of Australia in the early days was the evenness in which the Irish and English were treated, it forestalled insurrection because the system wasn't obviously stacked against them (and by Irish and English you can read Catholics and Protestants).

Just BTW, Mrs Hinge has an ancestor (Irish) transported here because she stole a silk handkerchief at age 12.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 23 Nov, 2020 05:39 pm
@hingehead,
You didn't actually have to be a petty crim, either. With the press-gangers rounding up crew to man the ships, laws were passed to ensure young children weren't taken, to be used as sex slaves.

Mum's parents were textile and timber merchants, and her great-grandfather ran an operation on Fraser island, cutting Satinay logs to be taken back to England, to build new wharves.

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Builder
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2020 03:09 am
Predictions of a million new homeless in Australia, and zero chance of employment for them. Will this be a precursor to the UN "peace-keeper" forces?
roger
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2020 03:37 am
@Builder,
Haven't heard a word about that. What's the story?
Builder
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2020 04:26 am
@roger,
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/renters-could-be-pushed-out-by-deferred-rent/12915486

Roger, the live feed must be inundated with listeners, but the transcript is at the link above.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2020 06:44 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
Predictions of a million new homeless in Australia, and zero chance of employment for them. Will this be a precursor to the UN "peace-keeper" forces?
I have no idea why the UN should act here.

Here, if there's an eviction due to the pandemic lockdown, help/remedy is regulated by various lockdown-related laws and by-laws.

Homelessness generally (and in all other cases) is regulated in the Sozialgesetzbuch (SGB) ("Social Code")
• depending on the individual case, the rent debts can be taken over or the staff of the social welfare office can negotiate with the landlord to get you back in the flat,
• in individual cases and under certain conditions, you can receive money to help finance the costs. This financial aid is usually in the form of a loan,
• the public housing cooperatives in every municipality have always (that's the idea behind these co-ops since nearly 150 years) some spare flats just for such cases.
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2020 02:29 pm
@Builder,
Thanks for the link. Sounds bad, but I'm still not seeing any opportunities for UN involvement
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hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 27 Nov, 2020 06:34 am
@Builder,
Well if it looks bad on the news bulletins we can count on Scotty to make a hollow anouncement, hey?
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hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 27 Nov, 2020 06:39 am
@Builder,
It all makes Dan Andrews' 6.5 billion dollar commitment to public housing look a bit prescient. And rest assured that all those negative gearers who find there's no rental market will be looking to sell there returnless assets which will bring down the house prices with a much louder thump then Shorten's proposal to grandfather negative gearing out of the tax frame.

Fantastic work, well done Scott.
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 29 Nov, 2020 02:04 am
@hingehead,
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It all makes Dan Andrews' 6.5 billion dollar commitment to public housing look a bit prescient.


Will it be more of those "tenements" or vertical holding cells type housing?

My sister worked in the field of medicare fraud detection, but, after being offered generous redundancy packages ( like doctors don't do fraud any more, right?) there's no longer any such detection happening, so we can go back to doctor shopping and opioid abuse.

Gotta keep those plebs calm and stupefied, right?
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 29 Nov, 2020 05:31 pm
@Builder,
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Will it be more of those "tenements" or vertical holding cells type housing?

Quite possibly - I'd rather that than sleeping on a park bench.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jan, 2021 01:24 am
Thinking about touring Australia? I'm clearing out my Lonely Planet collection:

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8a/f3/d9/8af3d989cc6fea17d159e40b2bbb1003.jpg
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jan, 2021 06:23 pm
Wow. Zero community transmissions of COVID across all of Australia yesterday
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-14/coronavirus-covid-live-blog-community-transmission-greg-hunt/13055560

I'd be interested in the historical analysis of the reasons for this in 20 years - assuming we don't find ourselves in the same shitfight the rest of the western world appears to be in.
 

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