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THE MEANING OF OZ - All you need to know!

 
 
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2011 06:52 am
Flood videos. 10 dead 78 missing.


hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2011 06:53 am
Brisbane and Ipswich in for a rough 4-48 hours
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/11/3110839.htm
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2011 06:54 am
@hingehead,
Unbelievable,

There was a TV where we had lunch today. I haven't seen TV news for ages....terrifying to watch all those cars just being swept away.

Sometimes this place is just crazy.

Hard to imagine Brisbane flooded more than in 1974.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jan, 2011 06:04 pm
Much sympathy from here. This seems a widely affected area.
I'm from Los Angeles, home of major fires, mudslides, and earthquakes, and I suppose I could list more. A huge fire came within five blocks of our house.

I'd like to know more - re any drainage systems in place, local efforts re grading the land, and so on. If you run across talk of that, send a link if you have the time.
As a landarch in LA, I was extremely cognizant of grading and drainage issues, and now, so-called retired and ignorant about my new city, a quite flat place, I look around me and see all sorts of, to me, dumb stuff. But, it doesn't rain most of the year here, and a goodly portion of the city is sandy.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jan, 2011 03:51 pm
At the risk of sounding ungreatfull...

STOP RAINING!

sheesh!
Dutchy
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jan, 2011 09:24 pm
@dadpad,
We're having rain here at the moment too dadpad but it is very welcome!
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 05:53 am
My two adult sons were standing on the west creek mini dams when they first started to spill. That was as far up stream as you can go, but all that water flows into the west. There is a fair drop into Toowoomba CBD so there was a great deal of force behind the water. Actually the CBD is at the bottom of a funnel made of hills open to the west side.

In the east, the Wivenhoe dam was built to prevent the 1974 scenario but because of the shortage of water it as allowed to fill up. The whole idea was to keep it drained so that when it did threaten to flood, the dam would hold 1.5 giga litres. With the dam full, all 2.5 giga litres of rain was allowed to flood. Most of the water seems to have been more to the south of Wivenhoe and made its way via the Lockyer valley anyway.

We have one friend swept away and missing. He was in his house when it went. We have relatives who lost everything.... house and business. There was a video of people getting swept away downstream at Grantham but it was decided to destroy it.

Many towns are without petrol, it was confiscated for emergency vehicles. Expecting supplies to arrive within a couple of days, as most shelves are getting bare...most fresh food went very quickly. Take-aways are very popular, people seem to be saving food. Dont know where they are getting their supplies though.

They opened up the centre of town despite the damage so people could buy food rather than have it rot. The food shops are all on the second floor.

Will not be posting for a while.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Toowoomba-Darling-Downs-Flood-Photos-Info/121413644594262
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 01:08 pm
Are there any maps of the flood spots in Brisbane and surroundings? I tried looking online but mostly see maps re 1974 flood..
I was reading just this morning an article that went to print last week about a scientist and family in Brisbane, and about his lab and his home property - so now I'd like to see if I can find those spots relative to the flooding.

Ionus, I'm sorry about your friend, I hope he's ok. And you and your family too.

hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 02:30 pm
@ossobuco,
Hi Osso, on TV they were showing a computer generated model of the predicted reach of the floods but I can't find it on the web. There's a google maps effort here:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/qld-floods/brisbane.htm

And some PDF of satellite photos with inundation areas marked here:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/list-of-brisbane-flood-suburbs/story-e6freoof-1225985228833
hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 02:32 pm
Dead: 15, Missing: 61
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 02:40 pm
@hingehead,
Thanks, I'll check those out. - I see this fellow's lab is in the area of the botanic garden connected to Queensland University of Technology, and his home and land are in Moggill, right by the river..

I've also just been reading about the floods/mudslides in the area near Rio and in Sao Paolo. Yikes. I understand some of the reasons for mudslides around Los Angeles, but am ignorant about the processes in Brazil.



Edit, the first map shows Moggill as affected..
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 15 Jan, 2011 01:10 pm
@ossobuco,
Don't know if you all have seen this piece by G. Greer, but it helped me understand a lot of the "drainage" situation I asked about earlier -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/15/australian-floods-queensland-germaine-greer

It would be hard to just pick a clip to show here, so I won't. Very interesting re levees or lack of them, and lack of present day mangroves.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2011 02:44 am
We're good. No flooding here.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2011 03:01 pm
Here's a bit of a tangent re the thread, but an interesting read to me.

I've talked on the what-books thread about the Guardian's Once Upon A Life series, which is a feature with writers talking about turning points when they were young. I've just finished this segment by a fellow I never heard of, Howard Jacobson, describing his few years in Sydney. To quote wiki on him, "Jacobson has been called "the English Philip Roth", although he calls himself the "Jewish Jane Austen".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/18/once-upon-a-life-howard-jacobson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Jacobson

It reminds me a bit of my own gaga-ness on my first visit to Rome in mid middle age. Re the gaganess, not the details.
Dutchy
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2011 03:30 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco Howard Jacobson mentions Germaine Greer in his writings. Co-incidentally this article appeared in the Australian press this morning.

AAP January 20, 2011, 12:01 am
Four Australian women who have made their mark in advancing gender equality will be immortalised on a stamp.

Eva Cox, Elizabeth Evatt, Germaine Greer and Anne Summers will on Thursday join the exclusive ranks of great Australians to appear on a stamp.

The women will be presented with the Australia Post Australian Legends Award for 2011, which is given each year as part of Australia Day celebrations.

They have been awarded the honour for their roles in campaigning for women's equality.

All four women rose to prominence in the 1970s, addressing women's inequality in Australia and overseas in their writing, activism, judicial work and advocacy.

Controversial academic and author Ms Greer said she wished her father were alive to see it.

"It might have made up for some of the embarrassment I might have caused him, poor old darling," she said.

"My mother would have said, 'what is she doing on a stamp?'

"I'm delighted to be with three distinguished Australian women and not to be singled out as some sort of rara avis (rare person)."

Ms Cox, whose Jewish family fled Hitler's tyranny in Austria and arrived in Australia as a "refugee kid", was an early member of the Women's Electoral Lobby and involved in setting up the first federally funded after-school centre in 1973.

She directed the NSW Council for Social Service from 1977-1980 and devised the childcare policy used by the Hawke government.

She said the recognition was "terrific".

"All the ones that have been picked in this case have made a difference in a not-so-conventional way, and I think that's a really good lesson for people to understand - that there's lots of ways of making a difference," she said.

Ms Evatt was the first woman to preside over an Australian federal court.

The former chief judge of the Family Court said she hoped the award would increase people's knowledge and understanding of women's fight for equality.

"I think those of us involved in it would like to feel that we represent a whole larger group of women who have been in the same battle."

Journalist and author Ms Summers, who co-founded the first women's refuge in modern Australia, said she hoped it would encourage people to realise that the fight for women's equality was not over.

The Australia Post Australian Legends Award began 14 years ago when Sir Donald Bradman was the first living person, other than a ruling monarch, to feature on an Australian stamp.

Since then, recipients have included Arthur Boyd, Slim Dusty, Rod Laver, Dame Joan Sutherland, Barry Humphries and Nicole Kidman.

Australia Post Managing Director and CEO, Ahmed Fahour, said the 2011 award celebrated the tireless contributions the passionate women have made towards achieving women's equality in Australia.

The stamp series is released on Thursday.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2011 03:49 pm
That's neat, Dutchy.
I was iffy on Greer in my past, though not all against either. I forget the whys and wherefores. I did enjoy her part in the tv series, Cities, a series of famous folk talking about cities they were connected to. Burgess on Rome, Ustinov on then Leningrad, Gould on Toronto, Greer on Sydney... and I missed the rest of the series. Would love to see the whole series now.
Not that many days ago, I added a link here to her talking about being flooded (wherever she exactly is, I forget).
Anyway, I'm glad the women are now on stamps, by gum.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2011 06:12 pm
@Dutchy,
The idea of the stamp is that we all lick the backside before applying it to the envelope.

I want you to think of that Dutch when you are using a Germaine Greer stamp. As a sort of ritual.
Dutchy
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2011 07:40 pm
@spendius,
I seem to remember Germaine Greer was into that sort of ritual in her heyday spendi, she is much more sedate nowadays Wink
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jan, 2011 11:37 am
@Dutchy,
I saw her do the routine once on TV. I'll spare you the details.

I presume "sedate" means not mentioning the matter anymore rather than any revision of the principle which was, of course, unanswerable.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 07:15 am
Well another Australia Day comes around - and I'm still not absolutely sure how I feel about my country or where it's headed - and this is one of the reasons why:

 

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