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Tue 18 Feb, 2003 11:57 pm
Conclusions on Politics.
(1) PERSONAL POWER.
If YOU do not have PERSONAL control over the issue, it is only gossip.
There are a number of corollaries with regard to this idea:
(1a) If you plan ahead, you never need to change another person in this world to get what you want.
(1b) If you wish to be "right" align yourself with the inevitable flow of events.
(1c) If you want to be frustrated in life, demand that people act other than in the way their natures demand.
(2) SELFISHNESS RULES.
Human beings are motivated by self-interest to feel pleasure and avoid pain.
Corollaries:
(2a) Human beings will redefine pleasure as pleasing the groups they identify with.
(2b) Human beings will redefine pain as opposing the groups they identify with.
(2c) In other words, peer pressure runs the world.
(3) YOU ARE NOT A GROUP.
Groups do not exist except as a collection of individuals.
(3a) What one person does has a vanishing effect on any group with more than two members.
(3b) Because people identify with groups they hallucinate attributes to the group
(3c) It is useful to not be psychotic.
Now let me cement this out with some concrete examples.
The following arguments defy these principles:
(1) Your vote counts.
(2) It is important that anyone agree with your political view on anything.
(3) If everybody thought like you do then things would be different! (My favorite insane idea).
(4) How hypocritical!
(5) Your views/actions/leaders/nation have no integrity!
(6) your views/actions/leaders/nation are not honest!
So what is my personal take on these principles?
(1) I don't vote anymore. (It really doesn't matter).
(2) I don't care what any one person believes is true about politics other than how it defines them to me socially. (It is less than a drop in the bucket of cause and effect).
(3) I view the discussion of politics as another form of social gossip.
(4) I expect and plan on hypocrisy at all times from all people.
(5) I expect all groups to behave as a single individual would - selfishly and mindlessly so.
With these perspectives I find political discussions interesting.
Without them I find such discussions idiotic, and often bordering on pure psychosis.
Your statement is self-defined; selfish and hypocritical...
But thanks for sharing.
Preinfixed-Welcome to A2K!
Welcome to A2K.
Good luck. With that perspective, and the self-involved presentation of it, you should be welcomed by a variety of groups, all of which are composed of individual members, which is what a group is.
Yes, welcome, preinfixed. Your manifesto strikes me as having overtones reminiscent of Beckett, though on second thought, I think his characters tended to be a bit more optimistic.
But never mind, bash on regardless!
Hmmmm;
It seems to me that your statement is rather, .........shall we say, "political" !
And the resultant response seems to be mostly,.............."gossip".
I find that the irony and hypocrisy in your statement is funny.
For example, your statement says that there is no point in trying to make people think differently that what is in thier nature, because it will only result in frustration. But then you proceed to outline your ideas as if they should be adopted by others. If it was in thier nature to think in this way then the would already be doing it. You just contradicted your own argument, and thats not the only example.
What you have to keep in mind is that human beings are not rational or logical. Our actions and the things that motivate us are not ruled by the laws of logic. So just because something is rational doesn't neccessarily mean it will, can, or should be implemented.
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