Why Unwed Christians should not have sex?

almach1 wrote:

Don't feel sorry for me for being raise catholic Mr Buddah. Feel sorry for kids who grow up with weak minds.

You have no idea or appreciation of the degree of willpower it takes not to make the joke.

almach1 wrote:

Your comments about religion sound as bigoted as those who scorn people for not being religous.

I'm a once-bit twice-shy kind of guy. Religious ********s tortured and murdered people like me for many thousands of years. Just because suddenly they start acting nice the moment they're not powerful enough to push people around is no reason to trust them.

I've got my eye on them. They will have to re-earn any trust they wish to have.

At least I'm not ****ing torturing or murdering them.

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I have to agree with the theantibuddha, people like me have been persecuted since your religion decided that we were evil monsters that had the be exterminated; burned alongside alleged witches by Torquemada, publicly executed by European hypocrites, gassed and experimented upon at Auschwitz, and still treated worse like filth today thanks to the loving teachings of Christianity. So forgive me if I hold a grudge.

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Eryemil wrote:

I have to agree with the theantibuddha, people like me have been persecuted since your religion decided that we were evil monsters that had the be exterminated; burned alongside alleged witches by Torquemada, publicly executed by European hypocrites, gassed and experimented upon at Auschwitz, and still treated worse like filth today thanks to the loving teachings of Christianity. So forgive me if I hold a grudge.

Eryemil. We're both coming from the same place. Which isn't surprising since it's the same reason :wink:

I think the main thing that prevents me from ever trusting christians again is a thing called "the pope's pear". If you feel like vomiting feel free to research it.

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Eryemil
Well said.

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I think I'm gonna loose my breakfast. This is one of the most vile devices I've ever heard of.

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Eryemil wrote:

I think I'm gonna loose my breakfast. This is one of the most vile devices I've ever heard of.

I never really trusted them, but learning about that machine has made me very wary of christians. Don't say I didn't warn you though about the urge to vomit. Every single time I think of that I literally have to fight down my stomach acid. Every time.

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This is a joke ha, ha. I should of read some of your past posts.

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almach1 wrote:

This is a joke ha, ha. I should of read some of your past posts.

You don't mention who you're talking about/to so since I'm the most wonderful person in existance I'm going to assume that it's me.

What is a joke?

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buddha and eyremil,
Since I am christian, in a way i feel like I am being attacked. I am a pretty liberal guy. Democratic, pro-choice, pro-gaymarrige, pro-education, anti-war, among other things. i know of Gay christian churches. Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area here in CA where tolerance of different lifestyles is greater.

I stated in another post that, people kind of twist and interpret religion in bad ways to justify many atrocities. In a way they pick and choose wich parts to ignore and wich parts to follow. But what if I pick the good stuff from religion and leave out the bad. By definition i might be a bad catholic, but i'm still a christian since I believe in some of it. I see why you might hate the organization teachings as a whole. Any organization that gets big and bureaucratic gets corruption. Fighting for your rights is one thing, but don't fight hate with hate.

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I'm only human Almach, if you attack me I'm going to resent you for it. It's hard to forgive when they haven't asked for forgiveness isn't it?

Not all Christians are like this, but most are. Why should I forgive them when they are not sorry for what they do?

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Eryemil wrote:

I'm only human Almach, if you attack me I'm going to resent you for it. It's hard to forgive when they haven't asked for forgiveness isn't it?

Not all Christians are like this, but most are. Why should I forgive them when they are not sorry for what they do?

i can only apologize for my own actions, not anybody elses. And since i've never discriminated based on sexual identity or race, i don't feel like I have to apologize just to make people like you feel better.

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No need to get defensive, I don't think you should apologize at all. You have not done any of the things I've descried, so there's no need for it.

There should be more Christians like you around, even though religion in general does nothing for me, more people like you sure are needed.

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This is why if unwed christians DO have sex the rest of the world doesn't need to know!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40817000/jpg/_40817451_pair_ap_300.jpg

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Good point, very good point.

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Its amazing how a thread can get so muddled with self appointedness on both sides yet still remain entertaining.
Being raised Catholic is a wonderful place to be "from" . It allows one to view useless ritual and dogma objectively after time has passed and the sheer idiocy of religion can be fully appreciated.

However, indicting an entire civilization for acts of violence in the name of "a super being" is equally as silly.Since most of the population of believers were also being controlled, they too could suffer the penalties reserved for the unbelievers
When Hitler (who used a Christian doctrinal defense aas his "line of truth") forced the Jews and Gypsies into the ovens, why did they quietly go?.

Religion is as much to blame for the ingrained passivity of the victim as it is for the perps of the violence.
In History, only the Muslims and the Mormons had the cojones to fight back in any major fashion. I condemn ingrained passivity as just another manifestation of religious claptrap.

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almach1 wrote:

Since I am christian, in a way i feel like I am being attacked. I am a pretty liberal guy. Democratic, pro-choice, pro-gaymarrige, pro-education, anti-war, among other things.

You defend christianity and promote to some degree popular acceptance of it. In doing so, like it or not, you contribute to the continuing existance of the religion which will continue to produce hateful extremists. So you can see why to some degree, I find any christian liberal or not, a threat.

This isn't saying you're not a nice guy. You seem to be great, it's just that your religion does horrible things and by being a part of that you're going to in some small way be assosciated with the attrocities of your brethren. Thus you feel like you are being attacked, but it's nothing personal.

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Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area here in CA where tolerance of different lifestyles is greater.

Man if either of us were militant gay rights people we'd so rip you to pieces for using the word "lifestyles". Wink

Fortunately I'm not and I get the idea that Eryemil is not either.

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I see why you might hate the organization teachings as a whole.

Nah, the organisation teachings aren't the problem. Just a little book some people call the bible. Then again I can't see how much that would have to do with christianity.

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Fighting for your rights is one thing, but don't fight hate with hate.

This is beyond rights. Your religion doesn't deserve to exist in my world. Nothing against you personally though. Love the sinner, hate the sin, eh?

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Why isn't lifestyles a good word. Is it because that implies that's it's a choice or preference when it's really how you were born. Or is it because a lifestyle is more than just your sexual orientation?

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Being gay is not all that I am, hell sometimes I don't even remember I am gay.

By calling it a lifestyle, you not only make it sound as if it is something that I've chosen for myself, but also that it takes precedence in my life, which is just not true.

Sexual orientation is just a diminutive aspect of what makes a person, and it is as important as other people make it.

I see being gay as ordinary as having brown eyes.

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Actually it is a lifestyle choice, no matter how you
individually see it Eryemil.

What makes a person is not the sexual orientation they
prefer, there are (thank God) other contributing factors
far more important.
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As for religion, everyone can practice what they want
as long as they do it in private. I have no need for preachers who spread their own interpretation of what
God has intended for human kind.

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CalamityJane wrote:

Actually it is a lifestyle choice, no matter how you
individually see it Eryemil.

As for religion, everyone can practice what they want
as long as they do it in private.

Both Sex and Religion should be left out of politics if at all possible. The only reason to discuss either is a personal choice. But when one expresses choices or opinions, you may expect people to disagree or not condone either. There is no need in getting upset or vindictive about it

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