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disturbing passages in the bible

 
 
Ray
 
Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 12:23 am
My friend talked to me about a passage in the bible where it's saying that people who works on Sunday must be put to death... Is there such a passage? If so, wouldn't this contradict the ten commandment?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2005 12:55 am
The state of Va. has a law saying that when two trains meet at a crossing, each has to stop until the other has passed.

A whole lot of water has flowed over the dam since books of the OT were written. Laws and customs change.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 02:45 pm
My personal favorite is the one about the kids who make fun of a bald man and God sends a bear to eat them.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 02:48 pm
DrewDad wrote:
My personal favorite is the one about the kids who make fun of a bald man and God sends a bear to eat them.


Where in the bible do you read that?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 02:49 pm
DrewDad wrote:
My personal favorite is the one about the kids who make fun of a bald man and God sends a bear to eat them.


Laughing Laughing
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 02:51 pm
There's also the Psalm about dashing children's heads against stones....
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 02:53 pm
gungasnake wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
My personal favorite is the one about the kids who make fun of a bald man and God sends a bear to eat them.


Where in the bible do you read that?

2 Kings 2:23-25

23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 02:54 pm
Gunga-
(2 Kings 2:23-25)


23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 02:54 pm
I remember reading that a woman is unclean and must give a sin offering for giving birth. Three times the sin, apparently, for a girl baby.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 02:57 pm
Exodus 22:18
Suffer not a witch to live

another disturbing passage
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:00 pm
DrewDad wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
My personal favorite is the one about the kids who make fun of a bald man and God sends a bear to eat them.


Where in the bible do you read that?

2 Kings 2:23-25

23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.


Writing styles change over a period of 3000 years. The authors of the OT never wrote that John went to the bathroom, but always that the Lord CAUSED John to go to the bathroom for such and such a reason. You can usually take or leave the religious interpretation in such cases, but when you read something like that, you can believe that John DID go to the bathroom. They did not make up the basic content of stories.

Sounds like some kids were making fun of an old guy and then a couple of bears happened along and the kids didn't have their 45/70 with them and regretted it.
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:00 pm
Laughing

The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a US resident, which was posted on the Internet. It's funny, as well as informative:



Dear Dr. Laura:



Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.



I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them.



1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?



2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?



3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her menstrual period - Lev.15:19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.



4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?



5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?



6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?



7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?



8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?



9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?



10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev.20:14)



I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.



Your devoted disciple and adoring fan,

Jack
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:02 pm
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

( the bible on slavery )
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If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
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When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

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When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

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the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

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hehehe.. I can fill this thread with disturbing passages.. but I think mypoint is made. ;-)
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:04 pm
DrewDad wrote:
My personal favorite is the one about the kids who make fun of a bald man and God sends a bear to eat them.


Ahh yes...Revenge Bear...the patriarch of my line.....
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:04 pm
shewolfnm wrote:
Exodus 22:18
Suffer not a witch to live

another disturbing passage

You're just worried about self-preservation.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:06 pm
Laughing

> runs away scared <
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:06 pm
I like where Abraham gets drunk and his daughters gang bang him.....I've never been that drunk
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:07 pm
You simply cannot judge ancient people by our standards.

In ancient Athens, the only people who customarily went around armed were Scythian slaves who served as constables.

Picture the antebellum south in this country with only blacks walking around armed...

The ONLY way that picture makes any sense at all is if being an Athenian slave was so far above being a Scythian, that it wasn't even worth thinking about.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:09 pm
Hee hee, panzade.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 03:10 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
I like where Abraham gets drunk and his daughters gang bang him.....I've never been that drunk


I thought that was Lot, whose wife was burned to ashes for the sin of looking back.
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