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NeoPets Riddles (Lenny Conundrums) and Answers Here

 
 
darkpenguin6
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 06:19 pm
News is out, and so is a new LC.

Kauvara is making a special potion. For this particular potion, she's filling a bottle in the shape of a pentagonal pyramid: the base is a regular pentagon, 15cm to a side, and the height of the "pyramid" is 32cm. Assume these measurements are for the interior of the bottle.

Assume the flow of potion into the bottle starts at zero and increases at a rate of 1 millilitre per second per second. How many seconds will it take to completely fill the bottle? Please round to the nearest whole number.
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darkpenguin6
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 06:34 pm
I think the volume of a pentagonal pyramid is

(1/12)(a^2)h*sqrt(25+10*sqrt(5))
Where a is the side length of the pentagon base, and h is the height of the pyramid.
lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 06:34 pm
Ah, pure math. What a relief after the last 4 weeks. For an order of magnitude check, I got between 1 and 2 minutes. Anyone else?
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lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 06:37 pm
@darkpenguin6,
Concur with the volume formula.
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darkpenguin6
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 06:40 pm
I got an answer between 1 and 2 minutes. Smile
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beebzzz
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 06:43 pm
wow you all are fast. i used up a lot of time double-checking.
between 1 and 2 minutes, yes.
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fishmonkey
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 07:03 pm
it was less than 20 seconds...O_o?
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fishmonkey
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 07:04 pm
between 1 and 2 minutes is very illogical... accounting for the size of the container and the acceleration of the water into it...:/
fishmonkey
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 07:06 pm
1 mililiter does equal 1 cetemeter cubed...

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tayfahlman
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 07:13 pm
Where is the dr/dt go?
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darkpenguin6
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 07:20 pm
@fishmonkey,
it's actually very logical based on the volume of the pyramid.
anyway, 20 seconds would only fill 210 mL based on the problem
fishmonkey
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 07:30 pm
@darkpenguin6,
A bottle with less than 200 mililiters fills up in over a minute when it is filling at the acceleration specified...I think not.

1 sec 1 ml, 2 sec 3 ml, 3 sec 6ml, 4 sec 10ml...
...18 sec 171 ml...

whatever...I shall likely not be back on this board for another few months or so...I only come when whim brings me.Razz
darkpenguin6
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 07:37 pm
@fishmonkey,
i wasn't even referring to 210 as the volume.
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fishmonkey
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 08:09 pm
@fishmonkey,
never mind...it would have to be 5000-10000 mililiters.:*Razz
fishmonkey
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 08:11 pm
@fishmonkey,
some how my calculations must have met a snag somewhere...

it seems odd that 28000 square centimeters can fit in a square foot.Razz
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Neo fan
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 09:05 pm
Hi guys! I just want to know.. your last number is 1 or 2? I don't know wich will be the "nearest whole number"
Thanks
lennyfan
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 09:30 pm
@Neo fan,
If is between 1 and 2, then you round down if it is less than 1.5 and up if it is greater than 1.5. I didn't get anything that was exactly .5 on the end, so you don't need to worry about which way to round that.
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skutn1em
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 10:31 pm
Is fishmonkey right with this pattern?
1 sec 1 ml, 2 sec 3 ml, 3 sec 6ml, 4 sec 10ml...18 sec 171 ml...
lennyfan
 
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Reply Thu 4 Nov, 2010 01:28 am
@skutn1em,
I don't think so. The rate of filling increases 1 ml/s^2. So after one second, the rate has gone from 0 ml/s to 1 ml/s. That turns into only 0.5 ml filled after one second. In the second second, the rate goes from 1 ml/s to 2 ml/s. That will fill another 1.5 ml for a total of 2 ml so far. In the third second, the rate goes from 2 ml/s to 3 ml/s, adding 2.5 ml for a total of 4.5 ml. So the pattern you are citing seems to be adding an extra 0.5 ml each second, causing the total to be (0.5) * t too high at the end of t seconds. Would lead to a time that is slightly too small, although probably by less than a second. Might lead to rounding in the wrong direction, however.
Nooblette
 
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Reply Thu 4 Nov, 2010 02:24 am
I got 8 seconds LOL
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