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Catalonia wants out; Spain says no

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 09:30 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I've noticed that reuters, other news agencies and media use "regional court" for the court, where Puigdemont is expected.
It's in the official English translation the local court (Amtsgericht Neumünster). [The regional court would be the Landgericht Kiel.]

And if some foreign journalist would use the information e.g. from the Public prosecutor's office @ wikipedia, the articles would become a lot better.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 12:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The court in Neumünster extended the remand of Carles Puigdemont today. It's the first legal step in a possible extradition to Spain.

If the court decides that German authorities can keep Puigdemont, his case will be remanded to a higher regional court in the city of Schleswig, where he could face formal extradition proceedings. Germany must then decide whether to hand over the Catalan leader within 60 days — or 10 days if he himself agrees to his extradition. A court spokeswoman said it was unlikely that a decision could be reached on extradition proceedings before Easter.

On Monday, Puigdemont's attorney, Jaume Alonso-Cuevillas, told Catalonian radio that he did not plan to ask for political asylum in Germany. In the German government's Monday press conference in Berlin, an interior ministry spokesman said that it would be "very unusual" for a Spanish citizen to apply for political asylum in Germany.

Source: DW
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 01:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I can't believe Spain is bungling this so badly. If they had been willing to negotiate greater autonomy for Catalonia this would all be over.

Instead they refuse to negotiate and are going to bully Catalonia until the majority of the population is unified behind independence.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2018 10:02 pm
The higher regional court in Schleswig will decide on the fate of the deposed Catalan president, after Easter, it seems.
The task of the judge on Monday was initially only to examine whether Spain's extradition request was recognisably illegal at first sight. It's not that, and there's also a risk of escape - that's why Puigdemont has to stay in prison. So it was a very simple test which the European arrest warrant of the Spaniards passed yesterday in Neumünster.
However, the judge restricted her decision without necessity, she wrote: "There is no doubt that the content of the European arrest warrant provides indications that the extradition of the person persecuted could be considered inadmissible if the legal questions concerned were fully considered".

In other words, if the judge had finally had to decide, she might have decided against extradition of Puigdemont. The sentence classifying the decision is unusual, in fact it has no function in the explanatory statement of the decision. And for the government in Madrid, he is a cause for concern.


(Translated from agencies and SPIEGEL.)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2018 12:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
An opinion from the NYT: The Catalonia Dispute Ensnares Germany
Quote:
[...]
... .Under the European arrest warrant used in the European Union, Germany is required to transfer Mr. Puigdemont to Spain within 60 days. But the warrant requires that the Spanish charges have German equivalents. Misappropriation of public funds does, but “rebellion” is only vaguely similar to “high treason” in the German penal code. That’s a tough one to apply to a democratically elected official who never resorted to force, and the German courts can decide to transfer Mr. Puigdemont on the condition that he not be tried for rebellion.

The Spanish government is fully within its rights to defend its unity and its constitution. And European states are right to give the Catalan secessionists no support. But now that Berlin has been thrust into the dispute, it would do well to tell Madrid that treating the ill-conceived Catalan independence drive as treason gives the movement a moral authority it does not warrant. A conciliatory gesture toward Catalonia would do far more to defuse a confrontation that has gone too far.
Though I agree, I fear that the outcome will be different due to the coming court ruling.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2018 06:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
According to press releases, Puigdemont will spend Easter in the Neumünster prison. The Public General Prosecutor's Office in Schleswig will not file an application for extradition custody at the Higher Regional Court this week. The examination of the documents was said to be very complex. The decision on whether to file the application is not expected before the beginning of next week.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2018 06:46 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Catalan academic will resist extradition from Scotland to Spain
Quote:
Clara Ponsatí, the Catalan academic facing extradition from Scotland to Spain for alleged sedition, has said she will resist the European arrest warrant issued by judges in Madrid.

Ponsatí arrived at a police station in Edinburgh on Wednesday to be formally arrested and served with the Spanish warrant, before an expected appearance at Edinburgh sheriff court later to answer the extradition request.
[...]
Ponsatí is expected to be granted bail before a full extradition hearing this summer. A crowdfunding drive to raise money for her legal costs had nearly reached its target of £100,000 only a few hours after it went live on Wednesday.
... ... ...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 30 Mar, 2018 04:38 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The lawyers of the arrested Catalan politician Puigdemont call on Germany not to grant his extradition. According to SPIEGEL information, however, the federal government does not want to interfere in the decision.
The General Prosecutor's Office in Schleswig will decide next week after Easter holidays whether to apply to the Higher Regional Court in Schleswig for extradition to Spain.

According the SPIEGEL, the office has already "conferred" with the Federal Ministry of Justice.
According to SPIEGEL, the federal government does not want to veto a possible extradition of the politician. The Chancellor's Office would regard such a step as a legal-political affront to the federal states to which the federal government had entrusted the granting procedure in extradition cases, it was said in government circles. Puigdemont's lawyers had called on the German government "to make use of the possibility expressly provided for in the law not to grant extradition".

The German government coordinated its action in a telephone switchboard on the day of arrest. According to SPIEGEL information, Federal Justice Minister Katarina Barley, Foreign Minister Heiko Maas, Chancellery Head Helge Braun and Hans-Georg Engelke, State Secretary in the Federal Ministry of the Interior, called on Sunday evening. The round had agreed that there should be no political interference.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 06:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Catalan academic facing extradition draws record crowdfunding appeal
Quote:
The crowdfunding appeal established to assist the former Catalan minister Professor Carla Ponsati in her fight with the Spanish government against extradition is believed to have set a new record.

Ponsati was granted bail at Edinburgh sheriff court last Wednesday after the Madrid authorities issued a European Arrest Warrant (EAW) charging her with “violent rebellion” and “misappropriation of public funds”.

She had handed herself in to the city’s St Leonard’s police station and is now formally under arrest. Her passport has been confiscated.

Moments after the issue of the EAW, Ponsati’s lawyer, Aamer Anwar, set up an online crowdfunding appeal. “Carla came into my offices in Glasgow at 8.30am on Wednesday and we then headed for the train to take us to Edinburgh. By the time we were on the train, the total had reached almost £5,000. When we reached Edinburgh this had more than doubled. After we’d visited the police station, it had begun to climb even more steeply and when we got out of the court I was astonished to see that it had reached £200,000.

“We reached that total in 18 hours and I’ve been informed by the crowdfunding people that this is a record.”
[...]
A preliminary hearing into the extradition case has been set for Edinburgh sheriff court on 12 April, with a full hearing to follow on 18 April. It is unlikely to end there. If the extradition is granted, Ponsati will have the right of appeal.

The Crown, which takes the case on behalf of the Spanish government as the arresting nation, would likewise have the right of appeal if the extradition bid were to fall.
... ... ...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 3 Apr, 2018 03:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The General Public Prosecutor's Office of Schleswig-Holstein has filed an extradition warrant for the Catalan separatist leader with the Higher Regional Court in Schleswig.
This was announced by the public prosecutor's office in Schleswig this morning. Following intensive examination of the European arrest warrant issued by the judicial authorities in Madrid, it was concluded that extradition was warranted. Now, the Higher Regional Court (OLG) will decide whether the politician is actually transferred to Spain.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 3 Apr, 2018 08:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
This comment in the Süddeutsche Zeitung reflects more or less my opinion [own translation]
Quote:
The General Public Prosecutor in Schleswig, as legally incumbent on him, has asked the Higher Regional Court to examine whether extradition of Carles Puigdemont to Spain is admissible. So far, so good, so clear. This is when the ambiguities begin.

This is not only due to Spain and the sloppy arrest warrant issued there against Puigdemont. This is also and above all due to a miserably bad German law on international mutual legal assistance in criminal matters (IRG). The judges in Schleswig have to apply this law; they can feel sorry for you.

On the upwardly open scale of disastrous legislation, this law is high up. Who would like to have a sample of these disastrous ambiguities can read § 81, 3 IRG, which deals with "extradition for prosecution or execution". It is therefore and remains unclear whether a comparison of the Spanish legal situation with the German legal situation is necessary. It remains unclear whether the charge against Puigdemont must only be punishable under Spanish or German law.
It is therefore unclear what the German judges should examine in such a case. This is contrary to the principle of the clarity of standards. For those who do not believe it, the following sentence of the law is quoted: Double criminality should not be examined'if the act on which the request is based does not comply with the provisions of Article 2(2) of Council Framework Decision 2002/584/J. European arrest warrant and surrender procedures between Member States (OJ L 190, 18. 7. 2002, p. 1), established by Framework Decision 2009/299/Jl (OJ L 81, 27. 3. 2009, p. 24).) (Framework Decision on the European arrest warrant)." After reading the above-mentioned passages, one is, of course, not much smarter.

The Schleswig Higher Regional Court should refer the matter to the European Court of Justice. The aim was to clarify whether and how the judiciary in Germany is bound by the Spanish assessment of the facts of the case. This is a case of fundamental European importance.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2018 05:06 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The independence majority of the Catalan Parliamentary Board yesterday accepted that Puigdemont may delegate his vote as an MP while under arrest, like the other Catalan parliamentarians jailed in Spain.
The effectiveness of the decision will be put to the test tomorrow during an ordinary plenary session. Ciutadans leader Inés Arrimadas: "A fugitive from justice cannot have a privilege such as a delegated vote".

Puigdemont's wife, Marcela Topor, is in Neumünster, visited her husband this noon in the prison.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2018 11:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
The state court in Schleswig ruled on Thursday there was no reason to believe that Catalonia's former leader Carles Puigdemont risked persecution in Spain. It set bail at €75,000 ($92,000).

It ruled that the main charge of rebellion in the Spanish case against him could not be used as the comparable German charge of treason specifies violence.

The court is to consider his extradition on the basis of misuse of public funds.
[...]
The Schleswig court considered him to be less of a flight risk because he is being considered for the corruption, not rebellion, charges.
http://www.dw.com/en/german-court-grants-bail-to-carles-puigdemont-as-extradition-on-corruption-charge-considered/a-43271576?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf wrote:
DW
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2018 12:12 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
After the court decision in the Carles Puigdemont case, according to lawyers, it was initially unclear when the Catalan separatist leader would be released from the prison in Neumünster.
Puigdemont's lawyer Till Dunckel told the German Press Agency (dpa) that the conditions imposed by the Schleswig-Holstein Higher Regional Court must first be fulfilled. This should be done as soon as possible. It is unclear whether this will still be possible this evening.[*]

[*It's 20:10 h local time now, nothing published yet.]
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2018 11:57 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Press release of the higher regional court in Schleswig
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2018 04:45 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The General Public Prosecutor's Office has ordered the immediate release of Puigdemont. The decision of the Higher Regional Court in Schleswig has thus been implemented.

Shortly before his imminent release, Puigdemont had announced a continuation of efforts to separate his region from Spain. "We must maintain our position and never back down," was posted on Puigdemont's Twitter account .
https://i.imgur.com/1mFFsxTm.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2018 10:16 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Meanwhile, in Catalonia, the separatists present themselves as victims of a wild and politicised Spanish justice system.
The judges in Schleswig emphasised that Puigdemont was not being persecuted politically in their view. On the basis of his actions, he was charged with a concrete criminal offence "which is also punishable under German law as embezzlement".
But the Independentistas don't seem to care. They now demand even louder than before the freedom for their "political prisoners".
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 6 Apr, 2018 10:55 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
And in Spain, the Spanish Supreme Court is said to consider referring the matter to the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 7 Apr, 2018 04:51 am
@Walter Hinteler,
https://i.imgur.com/OIEvcAVl.jpg

Video of the live stream on youtube
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 7 Apr, 2018 05:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Kind of summary:
Puigdemont declared at a press conference that he wanted to live in Berlin until the end of the legal proceedings. He considers it his duty to stay in Germany and be available to the authorities, said Carles Puigdemont. When the trial is over, he wants to return to Belgium.
He also reiterated his criticism of the Spanish central government.
His plans for the near future are still open. But he is satisfied with his temporary place of residence - Berlin is "one of the most interesting cities in Europe".

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The Schleswig-Holstein Higher Regional Court (OLG) has rejected the accusation of rebellion as a reason for extradition to Spain.
Now, however, he is still at risk of being transferred to Spain on charges of embezzlement of public funds.

If Puigdemont is extradited on the charge of unfaithfulness alone, conviction for rebellion is not possible there. This is clear from the rules on a European arrest warrant. The separatist would face prison terms of up to 25 years for rebellion. The level of penalties for corruption is likely to be lower.
 

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