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Saturday Worship vs. Sunday...

 
 
Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2017 07:52 pm
I'm curious to know why some Christians worship God on Sunday, the first day of the week when God clearly says to come before Him on the Seventh-day...Saturday.
 
Christian0912
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2017 09:00 pm
@Christian0912,
So far, I've had 16 views and no replies. Why would that be? Doesn't anybody no the answer?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2017 09:26 pm
Maybe they are on the Chinese calendar.
Christian0912
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2017 10:19 pm
@edgarblythe,
Who's they?
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2017 10:32 pm
@Christian0912,
Christian0912 wrote:

I'm curious to know why some Christians worship God on Sunday, the first day of the week when God clearly says to come before Him on the Seventh-day...Saturday.


The days of the weeks and the numbers of the months in a year and so on are purely arbitrary units.

Given that it would be kind of hard even for an all powerful god to declare a day of the week as the day to worship him without god also being arbitrary.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

A week is a time unit equal to seven days. It is the standard time period used for cycles of rest days in most parts of the world, mostly alongside—although not strictly part of—the Gregorian calendar.
The days of the week were named after the classical planets (derived from the astrological system of planetary hours) in the Roman era. In English, the names are Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
ISO 8601 includes the ISO week date system, a numbering system for weeks within a given year – each week begins on a Monday and is associated with the year that contains that week's Thursday (so that if a year starts in a long weekend Friday–Sunday, week number one of the year will start after that). ISO 8601 assigns numbers to the days of the week, running from 1 to 7 for Monday through to Sunday.
The term "week" is sometimes expanded to refer to other time units comprising a few days, such as the nundinal cycle of the ancient Roman calendar or the "work week" or "school week" referring only to the days spent on those activities.
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Christian0912
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2017 11:36 pm
@BillRM,
The ISO 8601 was a man-made system to avoid confusion on the days of the week. If you go to the internet and find a site called "Etymology Dictionary", (http://www.etymonline.com/) put in the search bar the words Saturday & Sunday. The results will say that Saturday is the seventh day, and Sunday is the first.

How then, did Sunday Worship come about?

The answer comes in two parts.

1. The name 'Thursday' comes from 'Thor's Day'. Each day has a history in its name. The name for Sunday came from the Sun Worship, created by Nimrod.
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Quoting here from The Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge Vol. III, 1884, pp 2259-2260: "Sunday (dies solis of the Roman Calendar, 'day of the sun' because dedicated to the sun), the first day of the week was adopted by the Early Christians as a day of worship...it was called the 'Lord's Day'... No regulations for its observance are laid out in the New Testament, nor indeed its observance even enjoined..."


That quote shows that Sunday was ADOPTED by the Christians. Sunday, the day that was named after Sun Worship, was adopted.

2. In the early 300 AD's, Constantine became emperor of Rome. Constantine too had adopted Sun Worship. But there were still many people who worship God on Saturday, the seventh day. To settle the debate, Constantine, who had been a sun worshipper, issued the following decree: "On the venerable day of the sun [Sunday] let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed.

According to the book, Lectures on the History of the Early Church, by Dean Arthur P. Stanley p.291, Constantine did this as a way of "harmonising the discordant religions of the Empire under one common institution".

The original day was Saturday, but a man who was biased towards a certain day made the decision for everyone on what day HE thought was right. It's not up to man to decide what is right and wrong, rather it is God's decision.

Onto whether or not God's decision of the seventh day was 'arbitrary ' or not, that is beside the point. It may or may not have been random, but we will never know (unless He enlightens us), because as Isaiah 55:8-9 says, God's ways and thoughts are higher than ours.
fresco
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:27 am
@Christian0912,
Congratulations!
You have been nominated for the 'A2K Entertainer of the Week Award'.
Christian0912
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:36 am
@fresco,
I don't think that's a thing...
fresco
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:45 am
@Christian0912,
Sure it is ! It's a social construction just like 'God' .
Christian0912
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 02:07 am
@fresco,
Fair enough...
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 02:15 am
The seven days of the week are linked to the seven visible planets, (by classical/medieval definition,) or the gods linked to said planets.
Monday Moon
Tuesday Mars
Wednesday Mercury
Thursday Jupiter
Friday Venus
Saturday Saturn
Sunday Sun.

According to the ancients both the Moon and Sun are planets while the Earth is not one.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 02:34 am
@Christian0912,
Christian0912 wrote:
Doesn't anybody no the answer?


Just keepin' score on the god-botherer wise ass here, who was bad-mouthing MJ for language errors.
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Christian0912
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 06:00 pm
@izzythepush,
I don't know what that's got to do with anything, but okay...
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TomTomBinks
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 09:19 pm
@Christian0912,
If you worship on Sunday the prayers go straight to God, as it should be.
A little-known fact is that if you worship on ANY OTHER DAY, the prayers are diverted away from God. This is why God commanded us to worship on Sunday. (It has something to do with the alignment of the planets).
The prayers might end up in deep space, where they will travel forever and have no effect.
The danger lies when prayers are diverted to other celestial beings like angels, demons and the saints. If a demon intercepts too many prayers he/she may gain a lot of power and begin to cause trouble on Earth.
If an angel receives too many prayers he may start believing he is like God and try to challenge God. I think we know that this has happened in the past and it has been disastrous for all of Mankind.
Most of the problems on Earth have been caused by misdirected prayers. Jews pray on Saturday (It's a good thing there aren't very many of them on Earth).
Muslims pray on Friday, apparently directing prayers to demons.
We all need to be careful to pray only on Sunday so that our prayers go only to God. They will make him stronger so that he can protect us by doing battle with demons.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:15 pm
@Christian0912,
Christian0912 wrote:

Who's they?

The Stonecutters of course.
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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 09:12 am
@Christian0912,
Are you a Seventh Day Adventist? If you are (or don't want to reveal your religion), then show me in the Holy Bible, King James Version, that Sabbath is Saturday, and Sunday is the first day of the week.
Christian0912
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 06:20 pm
@peacecrusader888,
It is purely impossible to show what day of the week is the first, second etc. I can tell you, from the Bible why Sunday is NOT the Sabbath. Satan has tried to deceive people for thousands of years. Wouldn't it make sense that he would trick them into worshipping on a day that was named after Sun Worship (created by Nimrod)? The reason that I cannot show what day is the seventh, or the fifth or whatever it may be, is because the names for these days haven't always been around. There hasn't always been weeks, months, years etc. Humans created these around the solar cycles. That is why the Bible doesn't mention the literal words of ANY day of the week.
Christian0912
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 06:27 pm
@TomTomBinks,
Mate, obviously you have NO idea what you're talking about. Are you saying that if you pray on any day, other than Sunday, your prayers can be intercepted by demons? Oh wow... Have you ever heard of Daniel? You know, the guy that prayed 3 times a day, EVERY DAY? Oh, and should I forget to mention that he's the one that was thrown into the lion's den for doing so, and PRAYED to God to protect him. And God protected him. So yeah. That argument is really not working.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 26 Sep, 2017 12:27 am
@Christian0912,
You're saying that it was demons who protected of Daniel because he fucked up his prayers. Credit where credit's due, at least demons get stuff done.
Christian0912
 
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Reply Tue 26 Sep, 2017 12:36 am
@izzythepush,
I knew there would be at least one person stupid enough to say that.
 

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