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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 07:38 pm
@peacecrusader888,
@Christian0912

I am waiting for your reply on John 20:1, 19.
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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Fri 29 Sep, 2017 07:41 pm
@peacecrusader888,
@Christian0912

On John 20:1, 19, I am waiting for your reply.
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cameronleon
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2017 10:30 am
@peacecrusader888,
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Please explain John 20:1, 19.

John 20:1 - "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulcher, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulcher."
John 20:19 - "Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be with you."


When it was the 1st day already (a day that starts at the sunset of the day before) early in the morning, this is to say, about 10 or more hours after the sunset on the day before, Mary went to the sepulcher, and she found out that she has missed the show: the stone was already taken away and the the body of the Messiah was not there.

Question is, at what time exactly the resurrection happened?

It happened right when the sunset finishing the six day (rest day, Sabbath)?

This is to say, between Shabath and 1st day of the week?

Is it happened on the 1st day of the week, this is to say, between the 1st hour of Sunday (around 6 pm on Saturday in biblical day and hour counting) up to the hour early in the morning before the Sun rises up?

When the woman arrived, no guards were around, the place was practically abandoned.

If the Christ died at the evening of Wednesday, then we have, Wednesday night, Thursday day, Thursday night, Friday day, Friday night, Saturday day, three nights three days, when it was Sunday, the resurrection was already a past event.

Three nights, three days. The resurrection must has happened right when the day of rest was ending, right before the 1st day of the week started, around 6pm on Saturday.

From here, no matter when the Christ appeared to the disciples, he was resurrected at the end of Sabbath.

Sabbath rules.

edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2017 11:05 am
Why would this alleged god give a crap which day you choose, so long as you worship his sorry ass?
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Sat 30 Sep, 2017 11:53 am
I prefer honoring the Sabbath on Saturday, because the best (most creative) football is played on that day, so it's the best day to take off.
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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 07:07 pm
@cameronleon,
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When it was the 1st day already (a day that starts at the sunset of the day before) early in the morning, this is to say, about 10 or more hours after the sunset on the day before, Mary went to the sepulcher, and she found out that she has missed the show: the stone was already taken away and the the body of the Messiah was not there.

Question is, at what time exactly the resurrection happened?

It happened right when the sunset finishing the six day (rest day, Sabbath)?

This is to say, between Shabath and 1st day of the week?

Is it happened on the 1st day of the week, this is to say, between the 1st hour of Sunday (around 6 pm on Saturday in biblical day and hour counting) up to the hour early in the morning before the Sun rises up?

When the woman arrived, no guards were around, the place was practically abandoned.

If the Christ died at the evening of Wednesday, then we have, Wednesday night, Thursday day, Thursday night, Friday day, Friday night, Saturday day, three nights three days, when it was Sunday, the resurrection was already a past event.

Three nights, three days. The resurrection must has happened right when the day of rest was ending, right before the 1st day of the week started, around 6pm on Saturday.

From here, no matter when the Christ appeared to the disciples, he was resurrected at the end of Sabbath.

Sabbath rules.


S0 you believe in a Wednesday crucifixion, am I correct? When is Preparation Day? What happens on Preparation Day, as to when the shops open and close, and their relation to Sabbath?

cameronleon
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 08:34 pm
@peacecrusader888,
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S0 you believe in a Wednesday crucifixion, am I correct? When is Preparation Day? What happens on Preparation Day, as to when the shops open and close, and their relation to Sabbath?


Before Passover, the commandment is "to clean the house from yeast". It is also, with days of anticipation, to select the lamb for Passover.

This is because Passover is not a feast but a ceremony remembering the exodus of the Israelite from Egypt. What is next right after the ceremony of Passover is the Feast of Unleavened bread, which last seven days.

There is a preparation for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened bread because this day is a Sabbath. This is a day of rest.

If the Christ was crucified on the eve of Passover, right after the ceremony of Passover, it was a day of rest, which started on Wednesday night for us, and continued on the daytime of Thursday. Later you have Thursday night as the new day together with Friday daytime.

Friday was the day for a second "preparation", which at this time was made for the weekly Sabbath.

So, in that week where the Christ was crucified, there were two Sabbaths or two days of rest.
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Tue 3 Oct, 2017 08:22 pm
@cameronleon,
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Before Passover, the commandment is "to clean the house from yeast". It is also, with days of anticipation, to select the lamb for Passover.

This is because Passover is not a feast but a ceremony remembering the exodus of the Israelite from Egypt. What is next right after the ceremony of Passover is the Feast of Unleavened bread, which last seven days.

There is a preparation for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened bread because this day is a Sabbath. This is a day of rest.

If the Christ was crucified on the eve of Passover, right after the ceremony of Passover, it was a day of rest, which started on Wednesday night for us, and continued on the daytime of Thursday. Later you have Thursday night as the new day together with Friday daytime.

Friday was the day for a second "preparation", which at this time was made for the weekly Sabbath.

So, in that week where the Christ was crucified, there were two Sabbaths or two days of rest.


So you believe that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, and that there were two Sabbaths: Thursday, a high day Sabbath, Nisan 14, and Saturday, the regular weekly Sabbath, Nisan 16. Now tell me when it was Thursday when He was crucified.
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2017 08:18 pm
Where are you, Christian0912? I am waiting for you.
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cameronleon
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2017 11:07 pm
@peacecrusader888,
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Now tell me when it was Thursday when He was crucified.


Uh, Thursday was on... Thursday?

If he was crucified on Wednesday in the afternoon, then his body was buried right before was dark. You know, Jews wanted to celebrate Passover, eat matzos, a piece of BBQ lamb, having full cups of wine, telling the story of Exodus...

When was -for us- Wednesday night, for them was Thursday.

Here is when the three nights three days start to count.
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2017 02:29 pm
@cameronleon,
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Uh, Thursday was on... Thursday?

If he was crucified on Wednesday in the afternoon, then his body was buried right before was dark. You know, Jews wanted to celebrate Passover, eat matzos, a piece of BBQ lamb, having full cups of wine, telling the story of Exodus...

When was -for us- Wednesday night, for them was Thursday.

Here is when the three nights three days start to count.


Why are you trying to make it Wednesday? So that three days later, which is Sunday, Jesus Christ resurrected? What is the first day of the week?
cameronleon
 
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Reply Fri 6 Oct, 2017 05:07 pm
@peacecrusader888,
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Why are you trying to make it Wednesday? So that three days later, which is Sunday, Jesus Christ resurrected? What is the first day of the week?


I guess you have not read a former message of mine.

Here is the count.

Biblical days start on sunset.

Wednesday night time Thursday day time

Thursday night time Friday day time

Friday night time Saturday day time.

There you have three nights three days.

Saturday night time should be Sunday or 1st day of the week, but the resurrection happened on Saturday daytime close to sunset before start 1st day of the week (Sunday)

Three nights three days, or three complete biblical days.
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Sat 21 Oct, 2017 08:31 pm
@cameronleon,
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I guess you have not read a former message of mine.

Here is the count.

Biblical days start on sunset.

Wednesday night time Thursday day time

Thursday night time Friday day time

Friday night time Saturday day time.

There you have three nights three days.

Saturday night time should be Sunday or 1st day of the week, but the resurrection happened on Saturday daytime close to sunset before start 1st day of the week (Sunday)

Three nights three days, or three complete biblical days.


The Jews started their day at sunset. The followers of Jesus started at midnight yet (John 20:1, 19). Their first day of the week is Monday.
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Sat 21 Oct, 2017 09:03 pm
@peacecrusader888,
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The Jews started their day at sunset. The followers of Jesus started at midnight yet (John 20:1, 19). Their first day of the week is Monday.

The Jews were using the Jewish calendar. The followers of Jesus was using the Julian solar calendar.

This is your contention:
Jewish calendar
Wednesday - Preparation Day for Thursday's high day Sabbath; crucifixion of Jesus
Thursday - high day Sabbath
Friday - Preparation Day for Saturday's weekly Sabbath
Saturday - regular weekly Sabbath
Sunday - Resurrection of Jesus

My contention:
Julian solar calendar (John 20:1, 19)
Thursday - Preparation Day for Friday and Saturday Sabbaths; crucifixion of Jesus
Friday - high day Sabbath
Saturday - regular weekly Sabbath
Sunday - Sabbath of the followers of Jesus
Monday - Resurrection of Jesus; first day of the week
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