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The French View

 
 
Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 02:19 am
Audiatur ut altera pars!


"France is not posturing: we are listening to world opinion, and heeding the wisdom of Churchill
We cannot back Nato's involvement in a war even before the question of the use of force has been put to the Security Council

13 February 2003
by Gerard Errera, French Ambassador to London

By unanimously voting in favour of resolution 1441, the 15 members of the United Nations Security Council all agreed on one objective: to disarm Iraq. We all agreed that rigorous inspections were the best means. We also agreed to go the UN route and keep the Security Council at the core of the decision-making process. Until and unless the inspectors declare their mission to be impossible, there is every reason to stay the course and no reason to cut off the inspections.

The issue before us is a serious one: how to rid Iraq and others of their weapons of mass destruction. Given the utmost priority to maintain a strong coalition to fight terrorism, given the risks resulting from the impasse in the Middle East peace process, we think the last thing now needed in the region is another war.

This doesn't mean that nothing can be done. Indeed, in the 90s, more weapons were destroyed through inspections than in the Gulf War. Between status quo and war, there is a way: to strengthen inspections. To this effect, the French Foreign Minister has put forward concrete proposals. These include reinforcing the personnel of Unmovic (the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission), providing aircraft surveillance, establishing a monitoring unit in Iraq, pooling intelligence and establishing a co-ordinating structure on the spot. They need to be discussed and acted on.

Eighty per cent of world opinion does not think that war is warranted. People feel it would have incalculable consequences; they are asking questions that are not being answered. They feel that one should never tread into war lightly. They have a point. We should heed Churchill's words and "never, never believe that any war will be smooth and easy".

Not that France forgoes the use of force as a matter of principle. This is where the question of a "second resolution" comes in. France was, indeed, the first to call for a second resolution to allow the Security Council to come to a collective decision, including a decision to use force provided it is based on a clearly negative report by the inspectors and is subject to an explicit authorisation. This is very different from a second resolution that would be a mere figleaf.

France is a permanent member of the Security Council. As such, she has a special responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security. France will exercise this responsibility.

The current discussion in Nato has to be seen in this light. We are told that the issue is the protection of Turkey. To assume that Turkey needs to be protected from retaliation by Iraq is to assume a military intervention against Iraq. This means we are, in fact, requested to support Nato's endorsement of the principle of a preventive war against Iraq. We cannot back Nato's involvement in a war against Iraq even before the question of the use of force has been put to the Security Council, let alone authorised by it. This would mean putting the Nato cart before the UN horse.

France is not posturing. Neither at Nato, nor at the UN. As for the argument that France is chickening out, I would merely suggest trying it out on the families of the French soldiers who paid the price of blood in the Balkan wars, in Afghanistan against al-Qa'ida and the Taliban, or in the Gulf War. France was the first European supplier of air power during the Nato-led operations in Kosovo. She remains the largest single contributor of troops to Nato operations in the Balkans. Together with Britain, France has undertaken a major increase in defence spending to face the new threats and challenges confronting us all. These facts speak for themselves.

There are no ulterior motives to France's position. We have deeply held convictions. At the heart of them lies the notion that for any action by the international community to be efficient, it has to be legitimate; and that to be legitimate, it has to be based on the respect for international law.

We will defend these convictions without apologies."

http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=377850
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steissd
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 07:28 am
But why did the French representatives prevent strengthening of the Turkish anti-missile defense? They may object to the U.S. plans of replacing Saddam, but why do they want the Turkish civilians to pay the price? IMHO, their main aim is decreasing of the U.S. influence worldwide, and they find different excuses for their diplomatic subversions. It is a pity that Germany followed her long-term enemy (at least, since Napoleonic wars) against America...
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frolic
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 07:40 am
steissd wrote:
But why did the French representatives prevent strengthening of the Turkish anti-missile defense? They may object to the U.S. plans of replacing Saddam, but why do they want the Turkish civilians to pay the price? IMHO, their main aim is decreasing of the U.S. influence worldwide, and they find different excuses for their diplomatic subversions. It is a pity that Germany followed her long-term enemy (at least, since Napoleonic wars) against America...


Because along with the deployement of Patriot missiles NATO troops would go to the Balkan in order to allow the American troops to part for the Gulf. This would mean NATO-members actively supported the deployement of troops in the Gulf. There is no disagreement on the protection of Turkey. Its all about the timing and other meassures like the relief of troops in the Balkan.
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steissd
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 08:14 am
So, just as I said: the main objective is to disrupt the U.S. plans, even if this is done on expense of the Turkish civilians...
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steissd
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 08:16 am
It seems to me that NATO gradually becomes an obsolete organization in absence of the Soviet military threat. Maybe, it will be better for the countries that are really concerned with their security to leave the organization and to sign bilateral agreements with the USA. The participants of such agreements will know for sure that they are the U.S. allies, and will act correspondingly. Well, if some country wants, it could sign such an agreement with France for just to share destiny of the African countries...
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 08:46 am
pink floyd
Us and them
And after all we're only ordinary men
Me and you
God only knows it's not what we would choose to do

Forward he cried from the rear
And the front rank died
The General sat, and the lines on the map
Moved from side to side

Black and blue
And who knows which is which and who is who
Up and down
And in the end it's only round and round and round

Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
The poster bearer cried
Listen son, said the man with the gun
There's room for you inside
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steissd
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 11:14 am
As a song, this is good. But geopolitical decisions are not being made by the rock and roll musicians.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 11:15 am
and that just might be the problem.
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steissd
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 11:54 am
Well, granted, many of the rock stars were too often "high", it is good that they have no influence on the geopolitical affairs.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 11:58 am
well i am sure having a "recovering" alcoholic as a president makes all the difference.
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steissd
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 12:02 pm
Well, recovering alcoholic does not drink: by definition.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 12:03 pm
so your generalizion that musicans are "high" does not compare with a "recovering" alcoholic?
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steissd
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 12:14 pm
Exactly. The recovering alcoholic abstains from drinking (otherwise he/she cannot be called "recovering"). Active drug taker is often "high", and this inevitably affects his/her mantal abilities.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 12:16 pm
steissd

Since I'm both, an alcoholic ('dry', as we Europeans say, or 'sober' for Americans) and a social worker with some years experience in the field of 'recovering alcoholics', I find your definition extraordinary .... wishful thinking.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2003 12:17 pm
perhaps you missed "so your generalizion that musicans are "high"
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perception
 
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Reply Fri 21 Feb, 2003 09:20 pm
Walter I lifted this from your article----with all due respect do you really expect anyone to believe this self-righteous statement?

"There are no ulterior motives to France's position"
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2003 12:15 am
'Believe' means 'not to know'.
Thus, I don't believe most. I hear from others, besides confirmed by reliable sources.

As you well have noticed, perception, ther are quite some, who don't believe the USA either.

Besides, I did't expect no-one to believe anything : AUDIATUR ET ALTERA PARS has been the intention.
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IronLionZion
 
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Reply Tue 25 Feb, 2003 09:58 pm
I agree with Frances stand 100% on this one. They are not anti-American they are merely taking the logical course of action.
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IronLionZion
 
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Reply Tue 25 Feb, 2003 10:00 pm
perception wrote:
Walter I lifted this from your article----with all due respect do you really expect anyone to believe this self-righteous statement?

"There are no ulterior motives to France's position"


Ha, that pales in comparison the the self-righteousness that is littered throughout nearly every speech Bush utters. Exclamation
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nelsonn
 
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Reply Thu 27 Feb, 2003 10:30 pm
The Bush administration wants to acquire influence in whatever may become of Iraq, while the French, Russians, and German companies wish to continue their profitable relationships. S plague on all their houses.
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