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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 07:40 am
Yes, crossed fingers. A question for the listeners: why is it supposed to be unlucky to walk under a ladder?
(No really- not the hammer or the bucket falling on the head reason)
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 07:52 am
A long time before I heard the instrumental Yellow Bird I knew this song by Harry Belafonte. I have conjectured it was written by the same person, because the melody is the same.



Don't Ever Love Me


While in that gay tropic isle,
I first saw that maiden smile
Tho' I had failed in the past
I said this is true love at last
But then she whispered to me
That our love never could be

Destiny, oh when will I see the day,
Hopelessly, I've wandered so long this way
This could never be, she said pleadingly
Don't ever love I'm just fancy free
This could never be, she said pleadingly
Don't ever love me

My love was motion and grace,
The moonlight soft on her face,
I held her close in my arms,
My heart was quick to her charms,
But then I saw in her glance,
It was just an evening's romance

Destiny, oh when will I see the day,
Hopelessly, I've wandered so long this way
This could never be, she said pleadingly
Don't ever love I'm just fancy free
This could never be, she said pleadingly
Don't ever love me
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 07:54 am
I don't know the other reason why not to walk under a ladder. Will eagerly await the answer.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 07:54 am
Hmmmm. Well, McTag, does it have something to do with Jacob's ladder?

I vaguely remember that spiritual, and if I'm not mistaken, there was a movie about Jacob's Ladder--something to do with the war in Nam.

If you can answer McTag's question, listeners, just call it in or write.
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Raggedyaggie
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 08:06 am
Same composer, Edgar. Just two sets of lyrics.

http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/asset/board_member/12_img.jpg

Irving Burgie has long been acknowledged as one of the greatest composers of Caribbean music. Since 1956, his songs have sold over 100 million records by artists throughout the world.
He is the composer of such world standards as "Jamaica Farewell", "Day-O" and "Island in the Sun".
He has written some 35 songs recorded by Harry Belafonte, and was the author of 8 of the 11 songs in his album "Calypso", which became the first album in history to sell 1 million copies (1956). This album was #1 on the "Billboard" charts for 32 weeks.

"Day-O" appeared in the "We are the World" video, and was featured in the #1 hit film "Beetlejuice".
He also wrote songs that were recorded by the Kingston Trio and other artists of that era.

Burgie was born in Brooklyn, New York, his mother hailing from Barbados, W.I., and his father from Virginia After serving in Asia for over two years during World War 11, Burgie studied for five years at the Juilliard School of Music, the University of Arizona, and the University of Southern California.
After Belafonte's success, attributed in great part to Burgie's popular songs, Burgie was able to travel the world as a performer, songwriter, folklorist and teacher. In 1966 Burgie wrote the words to the National Anthem of Barbados-his mother's homeland and the place of his introduction to Caribbean folklore.
The musical review "Day-O is a compilation of many of the hit songs and show pieces written by Irving Burgie over the years, and includes all the hits that have kept the world humming."


Waiting to hear the origin of the "ladder", McTag.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 08:39 am
Great, Raggedy! I had no idea about that man. The national anthem of Barbados? I've noticed that many of the writers hale from Virginia.

If McTag doesn't tell us soon about the origin of the ladder superstition, I'm gonna cheat! Razz but I'm still thinking that it had to do with the spiritual, Jacob's Ladder. A wild guess, listeners. If one is not climbing the ladder, the walking under it may mean that all hope of heaven is gone.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 08:48 am
There are many who believe that the following was a reference to extra terrestrials:

Words and Music by : Trad. Spiritual
Recorded by Harry Belafonte on:
45 : EPA-2022
LP : LSP-2022
CD: CD26049
Also recorded by:
Golden Gate Quartet - EMI 828834-2
Lyrics:

Ezekiel saw the wheel, way up in the middle of the air,
Ezekiel saw the wheel, way in the middle of the air,
The big wheel run by faith, little wheel run by the grace of God
Wheel within a wheel, 'way in the middle of the air,
Wheel, wheel, wheel, wheel in the middle of the air.
Wheel, wheel, wheel, wheel in the middle of the air.
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bobsmythhawk
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 09:13 am
Last night karaoke was better than expected. There was a good mixture of young and old and everything in between. This made for more diversity in songs selected which is refreshing. Some of the singers were really gifted. One of the first singers, a young guy, nailed Sweet Home Alabama. I talked to him between songs and found he was in fact from Alabama.

Two women who were about to leave as I entered saw I was going to sing and decided to stay. One asked me to sing Frank Sinatra's My Way which I was happy to do. When I sang it she came up behind me and wrapped her arms around me and swayed to the music. The crowd loved it. As expected the song reminded her of her Dad who used to sing it.

As I feared my pal didn't return my calls and didn't show up. Backbone like a jellyfish.

A happy surprise. Out in the parking lot there was a lineup of motorcycles. No one in sight but a young woman. So I asked her if the owners assigned her to guard them. She laughed at that picture of her being selected by a rough bunch of riders entrusting their sacred transports to her. When a big guy emerged to clamber aboard the biggest bike, he paused to eye me as if he knew me. Turns out he was on the Nahant Police force. When I mentioned we had lived there before and that we then had a couple of rescued greyhounds recognition suddenly burst forth on his face. We had been friendly with him when we first moved there.

A fun evening!


SWEET HOME ALABAMA



(ed king - ronnie vanzant - gary rossington)

Big wheels keep on turning
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the southland
I miss alabamy once again
And I think it's a sin, yes

Well I heard mister young sing about her
Well, I heard ole neil put her down
Well, I hope neil young will remember
A southern man don't need him around anyhow

Sweet home alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you

In birmingham they love the governor
Now we all did what we could do
Now watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you?
Tell the truth

Sweet home alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Here I come alabama

Now muscle shoals has got the swampers
And they've been known to pick a song or two
Lord they get me off so much
They pick me up when I'm feeling blue
Now how about you?

Sweet home alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you

Sweet home alabama
Oh sweet home baby
Where the skies are so blue
And the governor's true
Sweet home alabama
Lordy
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Yea, yea montgomery's got the answer
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 09:30 am
heh! heh! Sounds like you had great fun last evening, Bob. Isn't the planet getting smaller? Sorry about your buddy, but stage fright can be awesome.

As for Sweet Home Alabama, I often wonder about WilliamHenryIII, because he lived there and I think is no longer with us. This is for you, Bill:

We lived our little drama,
We kissed in a field of white,
And stars fell on Alabama last night.

I can't forget the drama,
Your arms wound around me tight,
And stars fell on Alabama,
Last night.
(bridge)
I never planned in my imagination,
A situation, so heavenly.
A fairy land where no one else could enter,
And in the center, just you and me, dear.

My heart beat like a hammer,
Your eyes held a tender light,
And stars fell on Alabama,
Last night.
Crying or Very sad

Ah, well. There was a movie called "Jacob's Ladder". Check it out:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099871/
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bobsmythhawk
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 09:36 am
Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Amendment XIX (the Nineteenth Amendment) to the United States Constitution, also known as the Susan B. Anthony Amendment, was passed by a joint resolution of the U.S. Congress on June 4, 1919, and was ratified by a thirty-sixth state, Tennessee, on August 18, 1920. The Secretary of State Bainbridge Colby certified the ratification on August 26, 1920. The amendment grants women the right to vote. It reads:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

On February 27, 1922, a challenge to the 19th Amendment was rebuffed by the Supreme Court of the United States.


Interpretation and history

The amendment was the culmination of the work of many activists in favor of women's suffrage. One such group called the Silent Sentinels protested in front of the White House for 18 months starting in 1917 to raise awareness of the issue.

On January 9, 1918, President Woodrow Wilson announced his support of the amendment. The next day, the House of Representatives narrowly passed the amendment but the Senate refused to even debate it until October. When the Senate voted on the amendment in October, it failed by two votes.

In response, the National Woman's Party urged citizens to vote against anti-suffrage senators up for election in the fall of 1918. After the 1918 election, most members of Congress were pro-suffrage. On May 21, 1919, the House of Representatives passed the amendment by a vote of 304 to 89, and 2 weeks later on June 4, the Senate finally followed, where the amendment passed 56 to 25.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 09:51 am
Thanks for that history undate, Bob. I'll bet there are some pols out there who wished that Susan had just shut up. <smile>

'enry 'iggins:

"Why can't a woman, be like a man.?"

Thought for Today: ``Reputation is a bubble which a man bursts when he tries to blow it for himself.'' - Emma Carleton, American journalist (1850-1925).



06/03/05 20:00
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 10:00 am
question for McTag:

St. Patrick got rid of all the snakes in Ireland, who is credited with getting rid of the wolves in Briton?

and an interesting factoid:

Was Thylacinus cynocephalus a wolf or a tiger? It was neither. This remarkable animal looked like wolf with tiger stripes on its back and tail, but it was more closely related to kangaroos than to either tigers or wolves. The Tasmanian tiger-wolf was a marsupial; it had a pouch for its young just like a kangaroo.

Marsupials are found almost exclusively in Australia and certain surrounding islands such as Tasmania. They died out in most of the rest of the world. On thing the Tasmanian tiger-wolf does share with its tiger and wolf namesakes is vigorous persecution by human beings. The Tasmanian tiger-wolf is now extinct.

Despite its similar name, the Tasmanian tiger-wolf is not the same creature as the cartoon-famous Tasmanian devil. There really is an animal called the Tasmanian devil, and like the Tasmanian tiger-wolf, it is a carnivorous (meat-eating) marsupial. Although Tasmanian devil populations were reduced by disease at one time, they have recovered, and there probably are more Tasmanian devils now than there were at the time of European settlement. One possible reason for this is that the Tasmanian devil no longer has to compete for food sources with the extinct Tasmanian tiger-wolf.

The Tasmanian tiger-wolf became extinct on the mainland of Australia long ago because it could not compete for food with an introduced species, the dingo, a kind of wild dog. Tiger-wolves continued to thrive on the dingo-free island of Tasmania off Australia's south coast until Europeans arrived in the region. At that time, settlers began clearing the tiger-wolf's habitat for sheep farming. Habitat destruction reduced the natural prey available to tiger-wolves.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 12:18 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
I don't know the other reason why not to walk under a ladder. Will eagerly await the answer.


The answer is this: in the Middle Ages in England, people were a lot more closely tied to the Church, and were superstitious/ spiritual in equal part.

The triangle was a symbol of the three in one deity: the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The ladder makes a triangle with the ground and the wall, when it is propped up, and it was considered unlucky to break that holy symbol by walking through it.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 12:27 pm
Upon my word, McTag. Who would ever have thought that geometry had anything to do with that superstition.

Don't forget to answer my question about wolves, Brit.

Well, folks, so far we're still running on a full tank. Let's hope it continues that way.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 12:39 pm
everything i know about wolves i learned from duran duran

"Hungry Like The Wolf"

Darken the city, night is a wire
Steam in the subway, earth is a afire
Do do do do do do do dodo dododo dodo
Woman, you want me, give me a sign
And catch my breathing even closer behind
Do do do do do do do dodo dododo dodo

In touch with the ground
I'm on the hunt I'm after you
Smell like I sound, I'm lost in a crowd
And I'm hungry like the wolf
Straddle the line in discord and rhyme
I'm on the hunt I'm after you
Mouth is alive with juices like wine
And I'm hungry like the wolf

Stalked in the forest, too close to hide
I'll be upon you by the moonlight side
Do do do do do do do dodo dododo dodo
High blood drumming on your skin, it's so tight
You feel my heart, I'm just a moment behind
Do do do do do do do dodo dododo dodo

In touch with the ground
I'm on the hunt I'm after you
Scent and a sound, I'm lost and I'm found
And I'm hungry like the wolf
Strut on a line, it's discord and rhyme
I howl and I whine, I'm after you
Mouth is alive, al lrunning inside
And i'm hungry like the wolf

Hungry like the wolf
Hungry like the wolf
Hungry like the wolf

Burning the ground, I break from the crowd
I'm on the hunt, I'm after you
I smell like I sound, I'm lost and I'm found
And I'm hungry like the wolf
Strut on a line, it's discord and rhyme
I'm on the hunt, I'm after you
Mouth is alive with juices like wine
And I'm hungry like the wolf
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 01:14 pm
Well, dj, why am I not surprised? Poor animals. They have been given a bad name by Disney, I'm afraid. Hey, buddy. Don't they have white wolves in Canada? Liked your Duran Duran song, however.

Okay, folks. Another animal question:

What animal is referred to as "the woods devil?"

So much for the Loch Ness monster, McTag.
Found: An Ancient Sea Monster

So much for the Scottish legend of the Loch Ness monster. A team of Chinese scientists has discovered what could be billed as the world's first and most formidable sea monster.

Don't even ask for a missing link, listeners. Rolling Eyes
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 01:51 pm
Letty wrote:
What animal is referred to as "the woods devil?"


As long as I know it's wolverine...
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 02:23 pm
Well, my goodness. Welcome back, Francis, and in the company of wolverines. You're absolutely right. One of these days, someone here will stump you on something.



Howling at the Moon: Modern-day Lycanthropy (Culture)

By Vaughan
Tue Apr 13th, 2004 at 06:09:21 AM EST

If the legends are to be believed, lycanthropy has been with us since King Lycaon was transformed into a wolf, in retribution for serving human flesh to Zeus during a dinner party in ancient Greece. Ever since, the werewolf has followed the human race through whispered tales and popular myth, stalking towns and villages from the Caucasus to Colorado. The popularity and seeming irrationality of these stories has been a traditional target for debunkers of the supernatural. Rationalisations of the werewolf myth have stretched from theories of rabies infection to ergot poisoning. More difficult to dispel has been the delusional convictions of people with clinical lycanthropy. Often submerged in intense psychosis, affected individuals report the feeling of transformation into various forms of animal, some experienced as so unusual, the animal has yet to be identified.

and this time, folks, I have the rest of the story:


http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/4/12/91631/6905

Hmmm. Wonder if the John Forbes listed in that articles is the one with the beautiful mind, rather like our Francis.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 02:25 pm
Please make that "article" to tired too edit.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2005 03:45 pm
I have no idea who got rid of the wolves in Britain. Is this a legend? I suppose the natives got fed up of losing sheep and got rid of the wolves themselves. Also, it may have had a lot to do with cutting down of the forests for industrial uses and for agriculture.

Or is there a more colourful story? Do tell.
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