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Checking in on Macron, France

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 4 Dec, 2024 10:43 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
X had a variety of opinionators saying France’s govt will collapse today.

this suggests that you prefer to hide behind the resulting uncertainty.

It’s not some nefarious plot ffs.

If you can’t make sense of the words I wrote, I can’t help you.
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 4 Dec, 2024 12:04 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
If you can’t make sense of the words I wrote, I can’t help you.


I didn't say that the words didn't make sense – I'd just like to know if they're yours or if you're quoting someone else.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 4 Dec, 2024 01:33 pm
The minority government of Michel Barbier has lost te no-confidence vote in parliament, making it the first administration to be ousted in such a way since 1962 and the shortest-lived government of the Fifth Republic.

A total of 331 MPs voted in favour of the motion presented by the leftist-NFP alliance, with a majority of 288 needed to fell the government.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 12:31 am
I think Macron is treading in very dangerous waters.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 12:52 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
I think Macron is treading in very dangerous waters.
Barnier wants to submit his resignation to President Macron this morning.
Macron plans to address the French on television in the evening. Maybe something will come of tat or what do you mean by ‘is treading in very dangerous waters’?
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 06:30 am
@Walter Hinteler,
One instance in Algeria, described on X:

“Macron in Algeria, he approaches crowds thinking they're greeting him, Algerian police know better as the chants consist of "f*ck you" and they quickly scramble him into a car.

France is in shambles. Macron’s government is expected to collapse today.”

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The actual footage showed a huge streetful of animated people as Macron and security were moving toward his car. He mistakenly thought he was being greeted and turned to go into the crowd.

Security had to grab him and force him to the car. They were not greeting him.
https://x.com/sumit45678901/status/1864555816667255033?s=46

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Macron is seen by a lot of French citizens as bypassing their votes and squatting in the president’s seat. It was a majority that voted for the previous coalition, right? Barnier has been thrown out like trash. No confidence. It is all attributable to the WEF toad, Macron.

Globally, the West’s leaders are becoming openly and actively reviled by the people. A CEO of a healthcare company was executed in broad daylight yesterday and you should see the comments from Americans.

Based on the refusal of Western leaders to serve the interests of the people they rule over, Macron’s near miss in Algeria, and the celebrated dispatch of the United Healthcare CEO, I think some dramatic change between ‘leaders’ and the people is just about to explode.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 07:44 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Macron is seen by a lot of French citizens as bypassing their votes and squatting in the president’s seat. It was a majority that voted for the previous coalition, right? Barnier has been thrown out like trash. No confidence. It is all attributable to the WEF toad, Macron.
You contradict in the above quote.
The Barnier government (September – December 2024) was a minority government, a centre-right coalition (EPR [RE, MoDem, UDI, HOR, PRV] - LR) with only 212 out of 577 seats in the National Assembly,, the smallest minority governments in French history,

Besides that, Barnier hasn't been thrown out but is still - since today - premier minister of the caretaker government until a new government is formed.

NB: it's the Barnier government ("Gouvernement Michel Barnier"), Macron is te French president ("Président de la République française").

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 08:01 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Meanwhile, Francois Bayrou is cited by French media as a possible successor to Barnier. Bayrou is a veteran centrist politician and a close Macron ally - they had lunch today, it is reported.

Outgoing defence minister Sebastien Lecornu is also cited as a possible candidate for prime minister. There was no word yet of a possible Macron meeting with him..
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 10:22 am
@Walter Hinteler,
‘The previous coalition’ =

Mélenchon

French left beats Le Pen’s far right in election shock
Macron’s snap election saddles France with a messy hung parliament as the price for stopping the far right.

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-legislative-election-2024-second-round-front-populaire-jean-luc-melenchon-raphael-glucksmann-shock-victory/
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 11:33 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
‘The previous coalition’ =
Previous the Barnier government was that of Attal (as care taker government). Previous that was the Borne government. Previous that was the Tourret government.

Mélenchon was 'Minister delegate' for National Education and Youth (equivalent a secretary of state in that department) 2000 - 2002 in the Jopin government.
The Jopin government was indeed a plural left majority coalition government (PS-PCF-PRG-MRC-LV) from 1997 till 2002.

Melenchon's France Unbowed (LFI) party won the most seats of the leftist alliance in this year's July election.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 12:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The Duran on what’s happening in France.
I agree completely.
https://youtu.be/QEtQmihLzec?si=NUL9nplpSLo71bja
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2024 02:30 pm
Macron said tonight that he would name a new prime minister in the coming days.
He rejected calls to stand down in the wake of the government's collapse, saying he would see his five-year mandate through until it ends in 2027.
Macron accused the French far right and hard left of collaborating in an "anti-republican front".

Names for a new prime minister have been swirling, including Defence Minister Sébastien Lecornu, Interior Minister Bruno Retailleau and centrist former presidential candidate François Bayrou.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 6 Dec, 2024 06:30 am
The PS first secretary said he was ready to hold talks with the Macronists and the right on the basis of ‘mutual concessions’ with a view to forming a new government that would have a ‘fixed-term contract’.

On X, the leader of La France insoumise (LFI) reacted to the speech by the first secretary of the Socialist Party (PS). The latter was received this Friday lunchtime at the Élysée Palace and said earlier in the morning that he was ready to make ‘compromises on all subjects’, including pensions. Olivier Faure would like Emmanuel Macron to appoint ‘a prefigurator’ who would organise these negotiations between the political forces before appointing a prime minister.

Le Figaro- En direct


The political balance of power in France is currently complicated: neither the left-wing camp of Socialists, Communists, Greens and LFI nor Macron's centrists or the right-wing nationalists around Marine Le Pen have a majority in the National Assembly.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2024 09:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The French president on Friday named Francois Bayrou as the country’s new prime minister, the presidency said on X, over a week after parliament voted to oust Premier Michel Barnier and his government through a no-confidence vote.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2024 11:30 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Macron has by now officially appointed Bayrou as the new prime minister.
This should do little to change the fact that Paris will soon be facing political deadlock again - with a new cabinet.
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 14 Dec, 2024 08:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Lengthy analysis by Lauren Collins:

President Emmanuel Macron Has Plunged France into Chaos
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