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What do libertarian republicans believe?

 
 
camlok
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 10:14 am
@Baldimo,
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You don't have the slightest idea of how the US political system works or how each of the parties function or what they believe.


I've forgotten more than you know.

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Where are all the Democratic Republicans and Republican Democrats?


All smooshed together in the Democratic and Repuglican Parties.

Still denying reality, I see. This is epidemic among Americans.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 10:58 am
@Real Music,
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With that being said, wouldn't that make democrats who share some of the same views as members of the libertarian party libertarian democrats?

That was kind of my point from the begining. It would also lead to such "factions" as the Republican-Democrats and the Democrat-Republicans.

I would be more likely label Libertarian-Republicans as fiscally conservative Libertarians who are afraid to leave the GOP for fear of being irrelevant on the national stage. I wouldn't consider them to be a "faction" of the GOP as you never hear anything in the news about the "Libertarian GOP wing" of the party doing anything. JTT is trying to make them sound like the Log Cabin Republicans which is an actual group within the GOP who is often mentioned as part of the internal politics of party. I'm even wondering if JTT knows what a Log Cabin Republican is?

We just voted on and changed Colorado's primary election laws and moved from a caucus system to a straight primary system with cross voting between parties during primaries for Presidential elections and House and Senate primaries. Exciting times to live in CO and follow politics.
camlok
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 11:49 am
@Baldimo,
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I would be more likely label Libertarian-Republicans as fiscally conservative Libertarians who are afraid to leave the GOP for fear of being irrelevant on the national stage. I wouldn't consider them to be a "faction" of the GOP as you never hear anything in the news about the "Libertarian GOP wing" of the party doing anything. JTT is trying to make them sound like the Log Cabin Republicans which is an actual group within the GOP who is often mentioned as part of the internal politics of party. I'm even wondering if JTT knows what a Log Cabin Republican is?


You go on and on describing the very thing you deny. From the get go.

I'm even wondering, as I'm sure is everyone else, if you have any connection to reality at all.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 06:55 pm
I'm going to take a stab at trying to define what is a libertarian republican. A libertarian republican would be a republican who believe in some libertarian views that are not the views of the republican party. A libertarian republican would be republican who believe in many or all of these following libertarian views:

1. Eliminate all federal subsidies to private corporations, as well as all antitrust laws.

2. Eliminate all anti-drug laws.

3. Legalize prostitution.

4. Pro-choice.

5 Pro-gay marriage

6. Borders should be open but surveilled. Everyone who does not pose a threat to public health or national security should be allowed to enter the country legally.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 07:06 pm
@Real Music,
It seems to me except for the eliminate all antitrust laws, those are all most left wing stances on issues. Not much there for a Republican to agree with that wouldn't make him a Democrat.
Real Music
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 07:29 pm
@Baldimo,
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It seems to me except for the eliminate all antitrust laws, those are all most left wing stances on issues. Not much there for a Republican to agree with that wouldn't make him a Democrat.

A libertarian democrat would be a democrat who believes in some libertarian views that are not the views of democratic party. A libertarian democrat would believe in many or all of these following libertarian views:

1. Opposes taxation in pretty much all forms, and it deals with the revenue loss by opposing entitlement programs in pretty much all forms. This means that people keep more of what they earn, but it also means that there is no social safety net. And ambitious new proposals – such as universal pre-kindergarten and universal health care – are obviously not compatible with this objective.

2. Transfer all government services, from public schools to landfills, to private ownership.

3. Calls for reduced IRS regulation and monitoring of tax-exempt churches.

4. Opposes all gun control, as well as regulation of alternative weapon technologies such as mace and Tasers.

5. Opposes all federal funding of abortion and most federal entitlements for women who choose to carry their pregnancies to term, including the child tax credit.

6. Believes that marriage is a private contract, and as such it should yield no government benefits regardless of the gender of the partners.

7. Deny all federal benefits to undocumented immigrants.
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camlok
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 08:21 pm
@Baldimo,
Again you agree that the animal exists, yet you persist in denying reality. You are so wound up in the ugly myth of the melting pot that your tiny mind can't comprehend that not everyone thinks like you.
Real Music
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 08:43 pm
@camlok,
I wouldn't put too much into the meaning of these labels and names. Labels can be subjective. Depending on who you ask, you may get different answers regarding the various labels. What is a conservative? What is a liberal? What is a moderate? What is a independent? What is a progressive? What is a republican? What is a democrat? What is a libertarian? The definition of these labels rarely stay the same. The definitions are constantly changing. What was once defined as the right is now being defined as the middle. By today's standard, Ronald Reagan would be too moderate for many of the republicans of today. Ronald Reagan may even been seen as too liberal by the republican standards of today. Many years ago the left was far more to the left than the left of today. Individuals such as Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are attempting to move the left back where it once was many years ago. By the way, I fully support the agenda of both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Labels and definitions of labels are constantly being redefined.
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camlok
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jun, 2017 08:44 pm
@Baldimo,
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like the Log Cabin Republicans which is an actual group within the GOP who is often mentioned as part of the internal politics of party.


The Log Cabin Repubs are not even mentioned. You have an absolute aversion to honesty and research, Baldimo. Why? Because you are a conservative and your views are pounded into you head.

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Factions in the Republican Party (United States)

Libertarian wing[edit]
Main article: Libertarian Republican
The libertarian wing of the Republican Party, a relatively small faction,[1][11] emphasizes free markets, minimal social controls, and a constitutional republic for government structure. They seek to reduce government social spending, regulation, and taxes. They favor gay rights, and are split on abortion. They oppose gun control as counter-productive and favor free speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factions_in_the_Republican_Party_(United_States)#Libertarian_wing

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