"No Child Gets Ahead"

Its inspirin' to be in the company of pros :wink:

when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

Folks on another internet forum complained about a2k, saying they tried to access some of the threads only to find them closed. A writer said it's timberlandko's doing: that he makes certain threads he is on close whenever he is losing an argument.

dyslexia -- Not certain whether you are trying to be sarcastic or where you are coming from, but, as to your comment about the "nanny federal government," while that sort of rhetoric is generally associated with ignorant right wingers, criticizing an inchoate view of the right, I hope you are referring to the bush federal government whose aim is close down public schools completely in order to allow vouchers; religious or special interest supported schools which will totally trash the teaching of science, and a generation of ignorance.

Timberlandko knows nothing about the innovation in teaching that has happened during the past 25 years. One important step is the recognition of different learning styles. You might observe an elementary school class in which math is "taught" two or three times a day, with a different learning style emphasized each time the subject appears. When Timberlandko was in school, all lessons were offered by a teacher who lectured. Within the lifetime of my children, teachers now address hands on learners, entrepreneurial learners as well as those who learn through emotions and the arts. They have brought into the public schools the methods of the Montessori and Waldorf schools, all to the benefit of our kids.

As to why some communities have regretted hiring Edison Schools: Edison Schools do not work as well as their public relations. They have been found to fail, in large part, because the teachers are inexperienced and ill trained and because they do not address different learning styles.

I assure you thats a ridiculous assumption. I offer as well the tip that anytime you have a concern or issue with anything or anyone on A2K, you can use the Report feature found at the upper right of every post, contact the sites Administration via the "Contact Us" link or submit a Help Desk inquiry via the "Help" link at the bottom of every page. If you have an issue, problem, or complaint, seek resolution for same.



You have no way of knowin' what or how I was taught ... you offer preconception and prejudice without referential validation. Perhaps if kids today were taught in the manner the Jebbies and the nuns taught when I was in school (they pretty much originated the concepts of Team Teaching and Integrated Lesson Modules) - eschewin' the theocratic crap, of course - the situation would be much improved. The core tenets were discipline, responsibility, mutual respect, performance, and accountability ... all of which are sorely lackin' in today's public education system.

I submit the "innovations" you tout have, over the past decades, come about as education spending has increased dramatically, accompanied by a decline in the educational achievement of the US student relative to the students of much of the rest of the developed world. New methods - more money and resources - lower performance. Hmmmmm .... odd, eh?

I submit further that Waldorf/Steiner and Montessori approaches are no more or less subject to objective criticism - not all of which is positive - than apply to Edison methodology or to the current general public education methodology here at discussion.

In closing, I'd like to offer the observation that ill temper, the castin' of aspersions, denigration, dismissiveness, mischaracterization, and ridicule are the hallmarks of failed argument. You're scorin' fairly high there, IMO.

timber -- take your mirror off your computer! If you tell me that you were taught by Jesuits, I know how you were taught. Several years ago, a model was developed outlining four major learning styles and one is the passive, sitting and listening to lectures. That's the style largely used in Catholic schools of the mid-20th C.

Try to write better sentences. Jeesh!

Well, POM, thet t'warn't the way I lernt it.