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Will France follow Britain out of the EU?

 
 
Lash
 
Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2017 06:35 am
Strange days, indeed.

A new voice rises in France.

http://m.newser.com/story/241414/french-bernie-sanders-rising-in-presidential-election-polls.html
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2017 07:45 am
Brits foil what seems to have been an assassination attempt againot French presidential candidate.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/18/french-intelligence-foils-imminent-terror-attack-five-days-presidential/amp/

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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2017 08:26 am
Melenchon, rising candidate for French president, seems to have a big anti-German sentiment. Wonder which of his stump philosophies is gaining him so much support among the French.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/18/jean-luc-melenchon-germany-putin-french-presidential-race
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2017 08:41 am
The Intercept's take on the rise and possible consequences of Melenchon.

https://theintercept.com/2017/04/18/frances-bernie-sanders-started-his-own-party-and-is-surging-in-the-polls/
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 21 Apr, 2017 06:37 am
Last minute polling and prognosticating re the French election.

Is the recent terrorist attack increasing the hardliner's chances?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/french-presidential-election-poll-tracker-odds/
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 21 Apr, 2017 06:50 am
Junot Diaz talks about the French election.

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/french-election-sunday-marine-le-pen-macron-nationalism
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 21 Apr, 2017 07:21 pm
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/794314/french-election-2017-live-updates-news-polls-odds-results-date-marine-le-pen

Updating link to the French election.
Kolyo
 
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Reply Fri 21 Apr, 2017 08:31 pm
@Lash,
The Express is a xenophobic tabloid which cannot be trusted on any issue, but especially not on this one.

Their predictions will be biased in favor of Le Pen.

Meanwhile, the actual Tory government officially views the National Front as a fringe party and will not meet with the FN's leaders.
(Source for that last part: overnight BBC broadcasts via NPR.)
Kolyo
 
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Reply Fri 21 Apr, 2017 09:52 pm
@Kolyo,
Quote:
The British Prime Minister has attracted criticism because she met with Ms Le Pen’s rival Emmanuel Macron at the end of last month but failed to meet with Ms Le Pen because of a policy of not engaging with the Front National.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/15/marine-le-pen-says-has-snubbed-theresa-may-judgement-not-good/
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saab
 
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Reply Sat 22 Apr, 2017 02:18 am
An interesting article in a Danish paper about the French election.
saab
 
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Reply Sat 22 Apr, 2017 02:26 am
@saab,
The Swedish papers do have a lot too.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 22 Apr, 2017 08:34 pm
The world is watching.

An excerpt from the article:
“There’s never been a campaign where the uncertainty was so uncertain,” said Edouard Lecerf, global director for political and opinion research for Kantar Public, a public opinion research firm. “The mistrust of politicians is stronger than it has ever been.”

That mistrust appears to have caused many voters to veer away from traditional politicians in search of someone they feel is more principled, prompting even candidates who are insiders to claim they are “outsiders.”
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/world/europe/france-election-voters.amp.html

Sounds familiar...
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 23 Apr, 2017 04:45 am
Historic voting in France. Reports say France may have 80% of the population participating in today's presidential election.

Are they as sick of the status quo as Americans and Brits? We'll know tonight.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-39683594
McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 23 Apr, 2017 11:16 am
@Lash,
Not according to Walter.


Razz
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sun 23 Apr, 2017 12:49 pm
François Fillon gracefully supports Emmanuel Macron for the 2nd round, but not team Mélanchon yet. Interesting two weeks ahead.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 23 Apr, 2017 12:49 pm
@McGentrix,
The French election does indeed appear to have a few similarities to our last. Presidential election. In both there was/is a good deal of public dissatisfaction with the outgoing regime and some elements of the economic and social status quo. Both involve a populist candidate, regarded as an outsider to conventional politics, and advocating renewed nationalism, restrictions on immigration, and pursuit of traditional cultural interests. In France these issues are also conflated with matters involving EU governance.

There are important differences too. The French have been flirting politically with Le Pen and her father over similar issues for a long time. The element of novelty is not present. The EU aspect of these issues also alters the context in which they play out in France: the stakes and potential side effects could be much greater. The French appear to be very comfortable with their highly regulated economy and social welfare systems and not yet troubled by the long term consequences of their sclerotic economic growth.

Beyond that I don't know enough about public attitudes in France concerning these issues to have a confident opinion about the outcome. The contest is a close one and the principal parties have both seen recent political setbacks. It will be interesting to see what unfolds.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sun 23 Apr, 2017 12:52 pm
@georgeob1,
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The French appear to be very comfortable with their highly regulated economy and social welfare systems and not yet troubled by the long term consequences of their sclerotic economic growth.

But Macron is an economic reformer. His election would be good news for the French economy.
Kolyo
 
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Reply Sun 23 Apr, 2017 03:24 pm
@Olivier5,
Another interesting thing about Macron is he seems to have been the only one of the main four who opposed closer relations with Russia:

https://www.rferl.org/a/france-election-macron-le-pen-fillon-melenchon-putin-russia/28445679.html

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Though Moscow has constantly denied accusations of interfering in the campaign, a wave of fake news reports and computer hacking attacks on independent Emmanuel Macron, the only major candidate to distance himself from Russia, have brought about a sense of déjà vu with last year’s U.S. elections.

French voters head to the ballot boxes on April 23 in the first round of voting with four candidates -- three of whom are pro-Russia -- within a range of 4 percentage points in opinion polls.

Macron, a centrist, and nationalist firebrand Marine Le Pen are in the top two spots, but both have lost ground in recent weeks, allowing conservative Republican Francois Fillon and Communist-backed Jean-Luc Melenchon, who also both advocate closer ties with Russia, to make the race too close to call.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 23 Apr, 2017 03:32 pm
@McGentrix,
Btw, please get Walter approval on your current toothpaste.

Voter turnout at the time I commented on turnout stats:
https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN17P094

Small disagreement, but important to SOME, I guess...
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 24 Apr, 2017 04:47 am
@Kolyo,
Indeed... How did we even get to have 3 of the 5 main candidates being pro-Putin???? Gasp.
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