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Officer stabbed at UK Parliament; report of car rampage

 
 
saab
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 02:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
We were in London a few days before the 7/7 to celebrate our daughter´s big birthday, ahead of time. Her birthday is the 7th. That day she had to work., so we came a few days ahead of time and left before the 7th. It was a day with worries till we reached oneanother per telephone. She went to work but the theatre was cancelled that evening.
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saab
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 02:45 am
@oralloy,
An attacker moved down unarmed people. And he should have been shot right away according to you. That kind of large car you cannot stop with a small handgun. How many in a big city walks around with a big shotgun on their way to work??? So far I have not seen anyone.....
So your theoriy stands no ground what so ever.

Imagen if it had not been an attack, but a person who had lost concience and was ill in the car??
You fit better with IS than in a civilized country.
saab
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 02:48 am
@oralloy,
Everybody has the right to comment on a matter - it depends on how you do it.

There is a Disney film Bambi and in this film is a small rabbit who says "If you cannot say something nice - do not say anything at all"
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 03:01 am
Oralloy has no shame. He constantly insults British people, takes ghoulish pleasure in their deaths, and is now using this thread as an opportunity to promote his sick fascination with guns.

I learnt a long time ago there are no depths to which he will not sink.

Out of respect for the dead I'd like to ask everyone not to respond to him, and hopefully he'll take his disgusting nonsense elsewhere.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 03:12 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
An attacker moved down unarmed people. And he should have been shot right away according to you. That kind of large car you cannot stop with a small handgun.

Umm... Shoot the driver who is running over people?


saab wrote:
How many in a big city walks around with a big shotgun on their way to work??? So far I have not seen anyone.....

Once we get enough conservatives on the Supreme Court, people will be able to do that in the US.


saab wrote:
So your theoriy stands no ground what so ever.

How come the guy was stopped instantly as soon as he was confronted with someone who was armed?


saab wrote:
Imagen if it had not been an attack, but a person who had lost concience and was ill in the car??

Then the car would not have kept deliberately plowing into people, and the driver would not have jumped out of the car and repeatedly stabbed an unarmed person.


saab wrote:
You fit better with IS than in a civilized country.

The notion that freedom and civil rights does not belong in civilization, and does belong in a criminal regime, is just nutty.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 03:13 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
Everybody has the right to comment on a matter - it depends on how you do it.

There was nothing wrong with the way the Trump guy did it.

It looks like he misunderstood the article in question, so his criticism of the London guy was unfounded, but his tweet was perfectly civil. The notion that he was somehow out of line is just plain silly.


saab wrote:
There is a Disney film Bambi and in this film is a small rabbit who says "If you cannot say something nice - do not say anything at all"

You're directing that at the wrong people. Instead of directing that at the Trump guy who made a perfectly reasonable tweet, why don't you direct it at the people who are polluting this thread with unprovoked personal attacks against me?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 03:14 am
https://blog.malwarebytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/keep-calm-and-don-t-feed-the-troll-22.png
saab
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 03:19 am
@izzythepush,
https://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i-w600/keep-calm-and-yes-sir-4.jpg
but it is dam difficult
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 03:22 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Oralloy has no shame.

Says the person who is polluting this thread with unprovoked personal attacks.


izzythepush wrote:
He constantly insults British people,

That's a lie. I've never insulted the British people.


izzythepush wrote:
takes ghoulish pleasure in their deaths,

That's another lie.


izzythepush wrote:
and is now using this thread as an opportunity to promote his sick fascination with guns.

And another lie. You are the one who repeatedly brought up the subject of guns here in this thread.


izzythepush wrote:
I learnt a long time ago there are no depths to which he will not sink.

The only ones swimming around in the depths here are you and contrex.


izzythepush wrote:
Out of respect for the dead I'd like to ask everyone not to respond to him, and hopefully he'll take his disgusting nonsense elsewhere.

You clearly have no respect for the dead. All you've done is use this thread for personal attacks and pushing your silly anti-gun ideology.

And aside from when I am responding to your unprovoked personal attacks (which would be properly regarded as YOUR disgusting nonsense), I've been engaged in a productive conversation. You may not like facts very much, but that doesn't mean that facts are disgusting nonsense.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 03:27 am
@saab,
saab wrote:
http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i-w600/keep-calm-and-yes-sir-4.jpg

I'll remind you that if anyone is trolling here, it is izzythepush and contrex with their unprovoked personal attacks.

I defy you to point out a single thing about my posts that would count as trolling.


saab wrote:
but it is dam difficult

Perhaps your difficulty is due to the fact that you are joining in with the obnoxious name-callers against the person who is making polite and factual points.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 11:17 am
The three victims have been named.

Quote:
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/14A81/production/_95290648_mediaitem95290647.jpg
(From left) PC Keith Palmer, Kurt Cochran and Aysha Frade all died in the attack

PC Keith Palmer, 48, was stabbed as he tried to stop the attacker in a courtyard outside the Houses of Parliament.

He was an unarmed member of the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Squad who had served for 15 years.

"Keith will be remembered as a wonderful dad and husband," his family said in a statement.

"A loving son, brother and uncle. A long-time supporter of Charlton FC. Dedicated to his job and proud to be a police officer, brave and courageous. A friend to everyone who knew him.

"He will be deeply missed. We love him so much. His friends and family are shocked and devastated by his loss."

PC Palmer, who had a five-year-old daughter, joined the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command in April last year after serving in the Territorial Support Group (TSG) based in Catford but working across London. He had previously been based in Bromley borough between 2002 and 2009.


Kurt Cochran from the US state of Utah was in London as part of a holiday in Europe to celebrate 25 years of marriage to his wife Melissa, who was seriously hurt in the attack.

In a statement, Mrs Cochran's family said they were "heartbroken" by the news of Mr Cochran's death.

"Kurt was a good man and a loving husband to our sister and daughter, Melissa," they said.

They said Melissa had received serious injuries in the attack and was being treated in hospital. The couple had been scheduled to return to the US on Thursday.

"We express our gratitude to the emergency and medical personnel who have cared for them and ask for your prayers on behalf of Melissa and our family. Kurt will be greatly missed," they added.

Aysha Frade, who worked at DLD College London, close to Westminster Bridge, also died in the attack.

She was a British national whose mother was Spanish, the Spanish foreign ministry said.

Ms Frade lived in London with her two young daughters and husband, according to Spanish media reports.

Her father was of Cypriot origin, while her mother was from the Galician town of Betanzos, where her two sisters run an English school, the Voz de Galicia reports.

The principal of the independent sixth form college said she worked in the administration team and described her as "a highly regarded and loved" member of staff.

"She will be deeply missed by all of us," Rachel Borland added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39363933



RIP all three.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 11:21 am
Anti-immigration politicians link London attack to migrant policy
Just to remind: the attacker was a British citizen, born 52 years ago in England.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 11:25 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Also, Jihadi terrorist offences were unknown in Britain until the disastrous and illegal war in Iraq.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 12:06 pm
@izzythepush,
Yes, RIP all three. I'm having some tearing now, but there must be a lot of tears over there. It's good to know their stories.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 03:57 pm
Offering words of sympathy and support.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 04:14 pm
@edgarblythe,
Thanks, it's America's loss too, one of the victims was yours. He looks like he would have been a nice bloke too.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 07:26 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Also, Jihadi terrorist offences were unknown in Britain until the disastrous and illegal war in Iraq.

Bush is not responsible for Muslims deciding to go on killing rampages.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2017 07:27 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
Offering words of sympathy and support.

On my World of Warcraft server, we expressed our condolences by mounting massive raids on the other side's capital cities. Mr. Green
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saab
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2017 12:42 am
@Walter Hinteler,
It is not always where you were born, which counts. Your family´s influence, your roots and how well you yourself feel intergrated in the country/area you live. The language/dialect you speak, the food you like andyour traditions.

The same thing can be said about someone, who has roots back for hundreds of years in one country.

I think the danger often comes from looners, people who are angry at everybody around them. People who have to find an enemy, as they have no friends of feel they have no friends.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 24 Mar, 2017 12:49 am
@saab,
I didn't refer to sociological reasons and/or the socialisation of certain persons or groups but to the references to "immigrants".

But you're certainly correct: most of these men from persons from Birmingham ("the jihadi capital of the UK") have family links to Kashmir ...
 

 
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