I'm going to play Devil's Advocate.
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Quote:Sealioning is the name given to a specific, pervasive form of aggressive and willfully intentional cluelessness, that masquerades as a sincere desire to understand.
A Sealion is someone who, when confronted with a fact that they don't care to acknowledge, asy, the persistence of systemic racism in America, will ask endlessly for "proof" and insist that it is the other person's job to stop everything they are doing and address the issue to their satisfaction.
This Sealion label can applied to anyone who challenges your basic assumptions. What if a poster says that it's "common knowledge" that Bill and Hillary Clinton had over 25 people killed on their way up? Are you out of line to insist on some credible proof of that? Remember, in some segments of America that smear is believed to be true. I don't see anything wrong with challenging basic assumptions, and also challenging the quality of proof a poster puts forward.
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Quote:The purpose of Sealioning is never to actually learn or become more informed.
Okay, but a lot of threads on A2K are not about desire to learn but about one poster putting forth a statement or hypothesis and expecting it to be discussed and/or challenged. I don't see anything wrong with two or more posters of opposing viewpoints putting forth their evidence against each other, and saying why their evidence is better than the opponent's evidence. I ran into one poster on here who informed me that he was going to refuse to believe any official figures as evidence against his economic analysis because the LIBOR issue, (which were not official government figures, by the way), means that official figures can be faked. Therefore no official figures will be accepted to counter his argument that the whole economy is going to collapse any week now. Rational discussion with this poster is clerly quite impossible. Overall, I don't think lack of evidence in threads is the main problem in A2K, because if two posters disagree, how else can the issue be discussed?