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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2003 01:27 am
Some news don't get outside Europe, obviously no interest in affairs from countries with old thoughts.

I do think, however, that some of these news might be quite valuable.

So it has been little discussed that a court in Turkey is hearing an espionage case against representatives of several German foundations - all connected to main German parties (Social Democrats, Conservatives, Free Democrats [Libertarians], Green) in December:

German Foundations Accused of Spying in Turkey
German groups reject 'spy' charges

The case was going on yesterday:

Germans deny Turkey 'spy' charges
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2003 05:46 pm
Walter, At this point in the 'game,' I think Bush and company feels that Turkey has a better alliance with the US than Germany, and they are bound to support Turkey in this matter. Wink c.i.
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steissd
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2003 05:53 pm
I do not think that the USA will openly back the absurd accusations the Turks drew against Germans, but taking into account the strategic interests of the USA pertaining to the forthcoming Iraq campaign, no pressure is likely to be applied to Turkey by the State Department of the USA.
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steissd
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2003 05:56 pm
From the other side, I do not think that any foreign organization should interfere in the issues sensitive to Turks, for example, Kurdish problems or usage of cyanide for civil purposes. It may only increase tensions between Turkey and the Western countries and increse popularity of Islamists in the country.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2003 01:37 am
steissd wrote:
From the other side, I do not think that any foreign organization should interfere in the issues sensitive to Turks, for example, Kurdish problems or usage of cyanide for civil purposes.


Interesting opinion.

Do you just narrow it to Turkey or to ANY other foreign country as well?
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steissd
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2003 03:00 am
To Turkey, as it is a very special country. Let us not forget that it is a part of NATO. Intervention into the Turkish internal affairs may cause tensions inside this organization. It also may activize Islamization of Turkey that will turn it the enemy of the Western countries from their ally.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2003 01:20 pm
steissd

The Turkish Prime Minister Abdullah Gül is vice chairman of the "Justice and Development Party (AKP)", an Islamic Party. (He has been leading manager to the "Islamic development Bank" some years before.)

The population of Turkey is 99% muslim.

Thanks for remembering that Turkey is part of the Nato, I didn't forget the member states.
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steissd
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2003 01:22 pm
But it is still not an Islamic republic, the army does not permit any anti-secular changes in the basic laws. If the intervention into the Turkish internal affairs enhances support of Islamists, then it will be much more difficult for the military to keep the secular and democratic character of the country.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 09:35 am
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B]German Foundations Await Verdict in Turkey Espionage Case [/B]

Representatives of the foundations will be back in court on Tuesday



Members of the four German foundations accused of espionage in Turkey are expected to hear their fate on Tuesday when a court in Ankara delivers its verdict on the case.

A Turkish court will pass judgement on Tuesday on members of four German political foundations and a group of local environmentalists who have been accused of threatening the security of the State of Turkey.

Nine people from the organizations that stand accused - the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung, the Friedrich Naumann Stiftung, the Heinrich Böll Stiftung and the Konrad Adenauer Stiftung - are charged with promoting separatist tendencies in Turkey and supporting a group of environmentalists from the village of Bergama in western Anatolien. The Germans are accused of working with the environmetalists to prevent the extraction of gold from a mine in the province.

The environmentalists, six of whom have also been charged, have long protested against the use of cyanide in gold mines in their region and have caused embarrassing disruptions across the Turkish capital. It is their activity and the alleged partnership with other organizations that the prosecutors feel constitute the charge against the Germans of supporting "state enemies" and "conspiring against the security of Turkey". If found guilty of the charges, the accused could face jail sentences of up to 15 years.

The Turkish prosecutors have also claimed that Mazlumder, an Islamic-leaning rights group, was one of the Germans' chief collaborators. "We have nothing to do with the foundations. We have never received a single penny from them. It's a joke," said Yilmaz Ensaroglu, the organisation's chairman in an interview with the British daily The Independent.

"This trial has been orchestrated by forces which want to poison relations between Turkey and the EU, by those who stand to lose influence if Turkey joins the EU and becomes a more democratic place."

Spying accusations brought to court in December

The court process began in December 2002 when the defendants were officially charged in Ankara. The Turkish prosecutors have since been putting their case, claiming that the nine foundation members and the six accused Bergama environmentalists are guilty of "spying and working to undermine the Turkish State."

It is believed that investigations began into the role of the foundations, which seek to promote civil society and bilateral cooperation, after claims of espionage and coercion surfaced in "The German Foundations and the Bergama Affair", a book by a self-appointed Secret Services expert and Turkish scientist, Necip Hablemitoglu.

Book calls foundations "centers of agitation"

In his book, Hablemitoglu accuses German foundations in Ankara of spying and having close contacts with ecological, Kurdish or fundamentalist Islamic groups. He describes the German foundations as "centers of agitation against Turkey" and said that the foundations were supporting the protests against the use of cyanide "to the advantage of Germany." Hablemitoglu has not been able to support his claims in court as he was assassinated in front of his house in Ankara a week before the case went to court.

Those who have taken part in the prosecution case have been equally damning. The former public prosecutor Nuh Mete Yüksel, who withdrew from the prosecution due to a scandal, said in his indictment in December, "The foundations are the most effective and dependable crutches of German foreign policy. When one observes their activities in Ankara closely, it's clear that there are grave signs that this is a case of espionage."

Yüksel said at the beginning of the trail that the foundations acted against the country's national interests and forged close ties with ethnic and religious groups with the aim of breaking up Turkey, actions he called "legal espionage". He added that they were charged with "creating a secret alliance against Turkey's unity and the secular republic's regime".

Germans dismiss charges as "absurd"

Of course the German government and the foundations have both dismissed the claims. The German ambassador to Turkey, Rudolf Schmidt, has said that the accusations against the foundation members are " baseless, unfounded and even absurd".

Wulf Schönbohm of the Konrad Adenauer Stiftung described the accusations as "rubbish" and "absurd and laughable" in a newspaper interview in October last year before the case went to court. The Konrad Adenauer Stiftung has been working since 1983 to help Turkey get closer to the EU.(source: www.dw-world.de



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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 01:18 pm
Members of the four German foundations accused of espionage in Turkey have been acquitted by a court in Ankara.

German Foundations Acquitted in Turkey Espionage Case
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steissd
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 04:25 pm
Well, they were not spies, so they were acquitted. If this happened in Iran, they would be convicted. Turkey is still a democratic country with independent judicial system. I hope, moderate Islamists that are at power now will not succeed to change the situation in the country toward "Iranization".
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