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meaning of hypercorrect

 
 
Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 10:41 pm
What is the difference between hypercorrect and incorrectly correct?

To me they seem to have same meaning?

Thank you.
 
Skeleton
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 11:17 pm
@tanguatlay,
Hypercorrect is what sjw's strive for. Incorrectly correct is anyone who thinks sjw's are crazy. They're correct in thinking sjw's are crazy, but sjw's still think they're incorrect.
roger
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 11:20 pm
@Skeleton ,
What is an 'sjw'?
Skeleton
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 11:22 pm
@roger,
Google "social justice warrior"
roger
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 11:25 pm
@Skeleton ,
I tend to be very serious on the language threads. Since I don't have an answer, I'll just stay away.
perennialloner
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 11:29 pm
I'm unfamiliar with the term hypercorrect, but hyper is a prefix that means over. Overcorrecting implies correction that is unnecessary. Unnecessary correction might not necessarily be incorrect, just not ideal for some reason. However, overcorrecting might be construed as incorrectly correcting, depending.

That's my take. You should hear from others who probably know better.

@skeleton: Calm down. This is a language question.

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Skeleton
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 11:30 pm
@roger,
Life is too short to take trivial things seriously.
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 11:33 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

I tend to be very serious on the language threads. Since I don't have an answer, I'll just stay away.
Hello, Roger, I think the same way. By giving nonsensical answer/s, the posters are confusing the learners and wasting the time of natives who volunteer their help selflessly. For example, in your case, you had to ask the poster the meaning of the abbreviation.

In fact, I respect natives who offer help sincerely and correctly. And I hate some of the jokers on this forum.
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Sat 24 Dec, 2016 11:35 pm
@Skeleton ,
Skeleton wrote:

Life is too short to take trivial things seriously.
As this is not a jokes corner, I think it is not a question of taking trivial things seriously.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2016 04:35 am
Hypercorrection is the use of an erroneous word form or pronunciation based on a false analogy with a correct or prestigious form, such as the use of I instead of me as a grammatical object (as in he invited my husband and I to lunch )

Also, see my correction here:

http://able2know.org/topic/359397-1#post-6329513

tanguatlay
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2016 09:55 am
@contrex,
Hi contrex, is incorrect correction close in meaning to hypercorrection?

By incorrect correction, I mean something is correct grammatically, but the one who edits 'corrects' it and in so doing that thing becomes ungrammatical.
contrex
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2016 10:19 am
@tanguatlay,
tanguatlay wrote:

Hi contrex, is incorrect correction close in meaning to hypercorrection?

By incorrect correction, I mean something is correct grammatically, but the one who edits 'corrects' it and in so doing that thing becomes ungrammatical.



The difference is this:

Hypercorrection is a term used by grammar scholars to describe a particular kind of error. It occurs when a writer or speaker deliberately chooses an incorrect form because they have made a false analogy with a correct or prestigious form. I gave the example of "he invited my husband and I to lunch".

"Incorrect correction" is not a language scholar's term. I can imagine all kinds of mistaken attempts to correct, which might result in hypercorrections, or other kinds of error.


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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2016 10:59 am
Thanks, contrex.
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2016 12:17 pm
@tanguatlay,
Hi contrex, sorry to trouble you again.

Hypercorrection is a term used by grammar scholars to describe a particular kind of error. It occurs when a writer or speaker deliberately chooses an incorrect form because they have made a false analogy with a correct or prestigious form. I gave the example of "he invited my husband and I to lunch".

Could you please explain to me the part in bold? Why does the writer or speaker choose an incorrect form?

Thanks.
contrex
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2016 12:56 pm
@tanguatlay,
Hypercorrection is a non-standard usage that results from the over-application of a perceived rule of grammar or a usage prescription. A speaker or writer who produces a hypercorrection generally believes that the form is correct through misunderstanding of these rules, and this is often combined with a desire to appear formal or educated.
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Sun 25 Dec, 2016 01:01 pm
@contrex,
Thanks, contrex.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 26 Dec, 2016 04:40 am
@tanguatlay,
tanguatlay wrote:
Hello, Roger, I think the same way. By giving nonsensical answer/s, the posters are confusing the learners and wasting the time of natives who volunteer their help selflessly. For example, in your case, you had to ask the poster the meaning of the abbreviation.

In fact, I respect natives who offer help sincerely and correctly. And I hate some of the jokers on this forum.


Maybe you could let Dalehileman know, he may actually listen to someone learning English, but I doubt it.

http://able2know.org/topic/358635-1#post-6325267
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Mon 26 Dec, 2016 08:17 am
@izzythepush,
Also -
http://able2know.org/topic/358635-5#post-6329656

The post after that by dalehileman confirms the "keystroke saving".
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