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Many are going to regret their vote for Trump

 
 
Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 03:06 pm
@Olivier5,
Illegals in California gave HRC the edge over Trump, remove them from the equation and Trump wins the popular & EC vote.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 03:10 pm
@Frugal1,
Why don't you go try and catch some snowflakes while the adults are talking?

Just make sure to put your mittens on.
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Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 03:13 pm
http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/hillarys-popular-vote-win-came-entirely-from-california
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Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 03:27 pm
@MontereyJack,
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When the country was founded, it was 90% rural and 10% urban. Now those proportions are pretty much reversed, 10% rural and 90% urban.


It's actually closer to 80 and 20, according to census figures. One in five people are rural-based.

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Small and underpoppulated states already are disproportionately represented in the senate.


I would suggest that corporations are the ones disproportionately represented.

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Why should the office of the president, who represents EVERYBO DY be dominated by the the small minority as well?


What difference would HRC in the position make? She's as far from a representative of the people as anyone could get, while still pretending to be liberal.

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One person, one vote.


Then you'd have to make voting mandatory, which we have in Australia, the result being a handful of far-right lunatics are pulling the strings.

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And equating democracy with mob rule is an absurdly simplistic, FLATLY WRONG, loopy right wing meme.


Many political pundits and philosophical types would disagree. And BTW, I'd probably fit better with a label like "progressive". It's a pity the people didn't have any progressives to vote for this time around.


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We live in what is more or less a representative, constitutional democracy. Everybody can vote


But only half the people could be bothered. There was simply no good choice on the ballot.

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The trouble is The loudest most intoleratn people subvert the will of the people as determined by the popular vote.


Then explain how this same system saw prez Obama in the job. Twice.

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What ww are about to be living in is Trumpism, and thatr's the real mob rule, not democracy.


There were two corp0rate puppets on the ticket. That's not a choice, and it's certainly not any form of democracy. It's the lesser of two evils, and that's how Obama got the nod, twice.





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Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 03:44 pm
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Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 03:55 pm
@Frugal1,
I'm hearing that it was a simple phishing email that opened the door to her private server's contents. One of Podesta's underlings.

Still no evidence of Russian influence. Though looking at US relations with Russia during her sec of state role, I can understand why Vladimir wasn't pro-HRC.

Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:00 pm
@Builder,
That's the story I keep hearing... I really can't understand why anyone was pro-HRC, but I'm sure all of them regret donating to & voting for that nasty woman.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:16 pm
@Frugal1,
Frugal1 wrote:

Oli hasn't learned that the USA is NOT a democracy, it was never meant to be a democracy.

Oli has been saying that the US is not a democracy since before you were born.
Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:20 pm
@Olivier5,
So you agree with Frugal1.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:23 pm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:30 pm
@Builder,
Trump voters who think he's going to help the poor and middle class still don't understand that Trump's tax plan is going to benefit the richest with 47% of the benefits. They've been had, and still don't know it.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/09/26/Trump-s-Tax-Plan-Would-Benefit-Wealthy-Most-Study-Finds
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:35 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Trump is a snake-oil spruiker.

Everyone knew that at the start, and the finish.

It's simple testament to how very sad was HRC's platform for election.

It started out with "It's Time...." And that's about as far as it got.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:39 pm
@Frugal1,
And vice, you agree with Olivier5.
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Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:40 pm

Had to share this one, from a meme banging on about the popular vote on FB.


Anthony Raymondo
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It's comical watching people who have been ok with record setting deportations, the government spying on citizens, the criminalization of whistle blowers, and the destruction of due process that's been going on for the last 8 years suddenly care about the constitution and how the government operates because their corpratist DINO lost the election to her husband's racist golfing buddy.

Frugal1
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 04:52 pm
@Builder,
Bernie outclassed & outperformed HRC pretty much everywhere - he was popular, that nasty woman was never popular. However, he lacked the real world natural instinct to survive - Trump would have beat him.

I supported Cruz, and I voted for Trump. What can I say, Trump is Trump, he's a good man at heart that loves his nations people.

It's likely that he is the right man in the right place at the right time.
I have no regrets about my vote for Trump.
Builder
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 05:00 pm
@Frugal1,
HRC's and the DNC's treatment of Sanders, including the talk of threats involving his wife, were hugely damaging.

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but a DNC rep appeared on our 9 news coverage on election day, and stated that HRC was advised to support Trump's candidacy, by the DNC, because it would save her billions in campaign costs.

Of course, that footage cannot be found in recordings of the day, but our Laurie Oakes (respected political analyst/journalist) jaw hit the floor on hearing that.
giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 05:45 pm
@wmwcjr,
Yeah boy!
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giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 05:48 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I routinely appreciate your posts, but I would take it as a personal favor if you stopped using "libertards"


I would be more than happy to...Could you give me your reasoning?
giujohn
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 05:51 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Olivier5 wrote:

The American voters voted for Clinton, by a pretty wide margin.

Actually Californians voted for Clinton by a very wide margin


Last time i checked, Californians were Americans too, so my point stands.


Ah... California...The land of fruits and nuts...Where the nuts are a little fruity and the fruits are a little nutty. Ya gotta love em, huh?
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 19 Dec, 2016 05:59 pm
@giujohn,
It seems childish.
 

 
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