Jerry_l wrote:With all do respect, I believe that peace with the Palestinians, at this time, is impossible. What brings me to this assumption is the blury cause the Palestinians are fighting for; they claim Israel has taken a certain piece of land from them, and now, when Sharon says he is going to with-draw from the "stolen" areas, the violence increases. Why now?
The Israeli's have stolen land. Sharon is only withdrawing from Gaza, the westbank is still occupied. Violence increases now due to Israeli incursions, because the wall signals Israels intention of never returning large chunks of the west bank, and because quite a lot of palestinians are losing their homes to the wall.
Quote:Five times have the arab states grouped to destroy the state of Israel and toss all Israelis to the sea*.
And Israel has almost always been to blame.
Quote: All lands supposedly "stolen" are lands acquired with the blood of soldiers.
Are you suggesting that an occupant has the right to occupied land because conquering it has cost lives? The land belongs to the palestinians according to international law. Period.
Quote:History proves that only the arab states have recieved back land for peace** by terror.
Because only Israel has taken land that didn't belong to them.
Quote:Personally, my opinion is quite irregular, so I doubt if I could speek for any group of people in Israel: I believe the war is a religous war, camouflaged as a conflict over area.
I belive the war is a war over land and human dignity in which religion has been used to demonise the enemy, and to rally forces.
Quote:The Islamic leaders are, and have always been, calling for the murder of ALL Israeli people (and some claim this is in the name of self-defence ).
All Israeli's either are will be or has been reservists, or soldiers. I'm not suporting terrorism, but I could make a case for it. And Israel is the agressor in this conflict.
Quote:The Muslim laws state that every place where a Muslim set foot is forbidden for the unbelieveres (Christians and Jews) and the Muslim can do anything, including murder, in order to conquer the area.
Yet the Palestinians have honored ceace fires during peacetalks, and even a peace treaty which Israel did not honor.
Quote:I too wish we could all live in peace. The Muslims have the whole of Africa and some of Asia.
Time to brush up on some geography?
Quote:Israel is tiny (parks in the US are bigger).
And what does this matter to the millions who has lost their homes?
Quote:What do we have other then Israel? The land of our ancestors?
Assuming "we" are the Israeli's, it isn't really the home of
your ancestors is it.
The best way to get to the core of a conflict is ofthen to look at offers made during negotiations. It is evident that Israel has consistently denied the Palestinians things which, according to internatonal law, they have a right to. The right of return is being denied them, because the Israeli's won't allow the ethnic clensing they have accomplished to be reversed. The Israeli's demand large chunks of land ofthen crossing vital transport venues. Much of the water supplies on the palestinian side of the 67 border is also being demanded by the Israeli's.
The Palestinians have not during negotiations made a single request for anything which they do not have a right to according to international law.
So, can any of you pro Israeli people justify why Israel should be allowed to keep vital parts of the occupied territories, despite international law explicitely forbidding aquiring land by war?
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