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giujohn was right! There IS an October Surprise!

 
 
Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2016 07:23 am
Bombshell report on Trump taxes sends GOP nominee reeling

It puts an exclamation point on what was already one of the worst weeks for any presidential candidate in recent memory.
By ELI STOKOLS 10/01/16 10:48 PM EDT Updated 10/01/16 11:58 PM EDT

It took less than a day for October to produce an "October surprise."

Donald Trump reported a nearly $1 billion loss on his 1995 tax returns and could therefore have avoided paying federal income taxes for almost two decades, the New York Times reported on Saturday, putting another unexpected exclamation point on what had already been one of the worst weeks for any presidential nominee in recent memory.

The Times, which hired tax experts to analyze the records, determined that “tax rules that are especially advantageous to wealthy filers would have allowed Mr. Trump to use his $916 million loss to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income over an 18-year period” -- more than $50 million a year.

Times reporter Susanne Craig received the documents, which the paper describes as “three pages from what appeared to be Mr. Trump’s 1995 tax returns,” in the mail from an unknown source.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-tax-records-new-york-times-229012
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2016 07:24 am
Trump Lied On Candidate Disclosure Form

BREAKING: Trump Lied On Candidate Disclosure Form


There’s a reason Donald Trump is refusing to release his taxes, and it’s not just because of an ongoing audit at the IRS.

Recently it has just been discovered that Trump, in an effort to show the world how rich he is, valued one of his properties at “more than $50 million,” yet his attorneys, for tax purposes, tried to argue that it is really only worth $1.35 million. The property in question, The Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, New York, is a sprawling 147-acre private club with manicured lawns, stone bridges, and has a 101-foot waterfall.

If Trump’s attorneys are legitimately trying to value the property correctly, then that means Trump lied on his candidate disclosure form.

But, here’s the thing: chances are what’s really happening is that Trump is drastically undervaluing the property in order to not pay his fair share of taxes on the property. Either way, he’s lying.

Here’s what we know: Trump bought the property for $8 million in a foreclosure sale and then immediately spent $45 million to build an 18-hole golf course, as well as a 75,000-square-foot clubhouse. Those improvements are quite substantial. That begs the question then, how on earth would Trump’s tax assessment decrease from the purchase price even with all of those upgrades?

That’s exactly what the town of Ossining is trying to figure out. Dana Levenberg, the town supervisor, says this is hurting their town’s revenues.

If Trump gets his way then that means he would be cutting his tax burden by 90 percent, dumping the burden on everyone else.

more...

http://news.groopspeak.com/breaking-trump-lied-on-candidate-disclosure-form/
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2016 07:31 am
Trump May Have Had the Worst Week in Presidential Campaign History

by Benjy Sarlin and Alex Seitz-Wald

October didn't wait 24 hours before delivering a surprise. It came in an envelope delivered to the New York Times containing portions of Donald Trump's tax returns, which he has been refusing to release.

Political attacks are only really damaging when they confirm an already existing narrative. Mike Dukakis was seen as too weak to be commander-in-chief when he rode in a tank with an oversized helmet, Dan Quayle was thought to be slow-witted when he misspelled "potato," and Mitt Romney was painted as a cartoon Monopoly Man before the "47 percent" tape dropped.

In what must rank among the worst weeks of any recent presidential campaign, Donald Trump managed to play into almost every one of Democrats' talking points about him.

The New York Times story alone, which both reported that Trump declared he had lost a staggering $916 million in 1995 tax forms, and that experts believe that loss could have allowed him to pay no federal income taxes for up to 18 years, fed into three lines of attack that Hillary Clinton had used to needle him in Monday's debate.

One: That his refusal to release his taxes suggested he was concealing something important. Two: That his returns might show his business acumen was overstated. Three: That he paid little or no taxes despite his vast wealth.

And it lent credence to her larger argument that Trump is a heartless scrooge who left a trail of financial destruction on his path to wealth, and who according to the Times even refused to check off a box on his tax form to donate to a veterans' memorial fund.

As if that wasn't enough, Trump has a long history of both bragging about his efforts to avoid paying taxes while shaming others for paying too little.

Related: Trump's Long History of Tweet-Shaming on Taxes

But Trump didn't need an outside story to damage his campaign. He was busy having a live meltdown onstage in Pennsylvania at the very moment the news dropped Saturday night. Already behaving erratically since his debate on Monday, Trump imitated Clinton's pneumonia-induced collapse from last month and fired off the most grotesque, personal, and fact-free attack at the nominee yet.

"Hillary Clinton's only loyalty is to her financial contributors and to herself," Trump said of the first female major party nominee. "I don't even think she's loyal to Bill, you wanna know the truth. And really folks really, why should she be, right? Why should she be?"
[OCT. 1: Trump Questions Clinton's Health, Temperament and Fidelity]
OCT. 1: Trump Questions Clinton's Health, Temperament and Fidelity 1:17

The combination of a multiple damaging stories, all made dramatically worse by the candidate's impulsive response, may be without precedent. It's as if Dukakis were photographed riding in the tank, saw the mocking news coverage, then climbed back into the tank and drove cross-country with Willie Horton riding shotgun as his own staff begged him to pull over.

One week ago, Trump's campaign was at its high point. He had surged to a tie or even a lead in national polls as well as key battleground states, prompting a round of panic in Democratic circles. Clinton supporters feared he would beat low expectations in Monday's debate before a record-setting audience simply by avoiding any obvious errors, giving him further momentum.

On the eve of the debate, Trump for the first time surpassed the 50% threshold on Nate Silver's prediction model. Democrats anxiously refreshed the FiveThirtyEight.com website as many began to take seriously for the first time the possibility Trump could win.

Related: Trump Questions Hillary Clinton's 'Loyalty' to Bill

Clinton's post-convention high started to look more like an anomaly caused by Trump's last self-sabotage — his prolonged fight with a Gold Star family — rather than the race's natural equilibrium. With Trump appearing more disciplined, the two looked set for a tight race through Election Day.

But the debate ended up being a rout with Clinton the clear winner after Trump managed to tunnel underneath the rock-bottom expectations set for him.

With under six weeks to go before Election Day, polls had yet to fully digest the impact of the debate before Trump was buried by basket after basket of deplorable headlines.

Almost every day, Trump did something that would send a typical presidential campaign into a tailspin.

The most dramatic self-inflicted wounds concerned his response to Clinton's accusation in the debate that he humiliated a former Miss Universe, Alicia Machado, for gaining weight.
[SEPT. 30: Trump Attacks Former Miss Universe as 'Disgusting' in Early Morning Tweets]
SEPT. 30: Trump Attacks Former Miss Universe as 'Disgusting' in Early Morning Tweets 2:06

On Tuesday, Trump called into Fox News to essentially repeat the behavior Clinton had raised: He said Machado "gained a massive amount of weight and it was a real problem."

On Wednesday, Trump went back on Fox to tell Bill O'Reilly that Machado should thank him for demanding she lose a few pounds: "I saved her job," he said.

On Thursday, Trump's own campaign manager Kellyanne Conway told "The View" that she had personally reprimanded him for his language regarding women, even as she defended him over the Machado story. Even some of Trump's surrogates seemed unwilling to defend his comments last week and the campaign asked them to pivot to attacks on Bill Clinton's sex scandals instead.

"You know it's going to be so much better when he begins to focus on the real issues," Ben Carson, who has been of Trump's most loyal defenders, told MSNBC.

Then came Friday, where Trump issued a series of rage-filled tweets against Machado in the wee hours of the morning, in which he calls on his 12 million followers to "check out [a] sex tape" of the former Miss Universe winner.

The sex tape of Machado did not appear to exist. But Buzzfeed that day found a pornographic video by Playboy featuring a brief cameo by Trump in which he poured champagne on a limo with a gaggle of models.

But even setting aside the vulgarity of the tweets, Trump's vengeful response affirmed — almost to the point of parody — Clinton's core charge that he was temperamentally unfit to manage the world's most powerful military.

"You can't tweet at 3 o'clock in the morning. Period. There's no excuse. Ever. Not if you're going to be president of the United States," former Speaker Newt Gingrich, another of Trump's most prominent supporters, said on Fox News.
[SEPT 30: Clinton: Really, Who Gets Up at 3 a.m. To Attack Former Miss Universe?]
SEPT 30: Clinton: Really, Who Gets Up at 3 a.m. To Attack Former Miss Universe? 1:48

The Machado story has been so dominant that it overshadowed any number of stories that would be potential extinction-level events for virtually every other major party nominee in history.

There was a Newsweek expose that alleged Trump's businesses had illegal dealings in Cuba — some details of which Trump's campaign manager appeared to confirm on television. There was Trump's rambling debate answer on nuclear weapons, where he seemed to announce what would be a historic shift towards a "no first use" policy only to contradict himself in the next sentence, alarming national security experts days later.

The Washington Post continued its investigation into Trump's charitable foundation. The Post has already found compelling evidence Trump previously violated the law by using the foundation to settle lawsuits against his private businesses.

All the while, an array of old comments by Trump about women over the years, from ogling and hiring a teenage waitress to promising his then-17 year old daughter he wouldn't date anyone younger than her, resurfaced in various outlets. As did a lawsuit alleging he demanded unattractive women working at one of his golf resorts be fired and replaced with prettier women.

USA Today, the country's widest circulation newspaper, broke with its 34-year policy of neutrality in the presidential race to declare Trump "unfit for the presidency." Several historically Republican newspapers endorsed Clinton outright, along with an editorial board member at the arch-conservative Wall Street Journal, Dorothy Rabinowitz.

Meanwhile, Forbes downgraded Trump's net worth by $800 million dollars.

In short, Trump was arguably having the worst week in campaign history already. Then Saturday happened.

The good news for Trump is that there may be too many distinct negative stories surrounding his campaign for the average voter to fully process or a nightly news show to recap in depth. The expectations for his second debate, already minimal, are now on the ocean floor. But that's little consolation. At the exact moment Trump needed to be his best, with the most people watching and the stakes at their highest, he choked like never before.

If he loses in November, it's hard to imagine this week won't be seen as a turning point.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2016 10:39 am


Trump Pressured Second Wife to Pose Nude for Playboy
Source: Talking Points Memo

By JOSH MARSHALL Published OCTOBER 1, 2016, 2:37 PM EDT

In a totally unexpected development, we learn today that back in the early 90s Donald Trump pressured his then-girlfriend, future wife and future ex-wife to pose nude in Playboy. Trump even negotiated a mega payday for the nude photo shoot. In the end, Maples refused.

From the early 90s New York Daily News ...

"Notably, she did resist Trump's insistence that she accept Playboy magazine's million-dollar centerfold offer. "Trump himself was on the phone negotiating the fee," remembers a top Playboy editor. "He wanted her to do the nude layout. She didn't." ("I'm thankful for my body, but I didn't want to exploit it," Marla offers. "How would I ever be taken seriously.")

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-pressured-second-wife-to-pose-nude-for-playboy
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2016 11:34 am

Flailing Trump Suggests Hillary Clinton May Have Cheated On Husband

“I don’t even think she’s loyal to Bill, to tell you the truth.”
10/01/2016 10:49 pm ET | Updated 33 minutes ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-cheated-husband_us_57f07485e4b0c2407cde47fb?section=&

Jessica Kourkounis via Getty Images
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump speaks at a campaign event on October 1, 2016 at the Spooky Nook Sports Complex in Manheim, Pennsylvania.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump closed out a rough week for his campaign on Saturday by escalating personal attacks on Democrat Hillary Clinton, questioning her stamina and saying she should be in prison for her handling of classified emails.

After a week in which he drew wide criticism for a public feud with a former beauty queen, Trumpsought to rebound with a highly negative attack on his opponent in the Nov. 8 election, with a second presidential debate against her looming in a week.

At the same time, the New York Times reported it had obtained records showing Trump declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a deduction so large that it may have allowed him to avoid paying any federal income taxes for years.

Trump has refused to release his tax records, saying he is under a federal audit.

At a rally in Manheim, Pennsylvania, Trump said he did not believe Clinton, who suffered a bout of pneumonia last month, was up to the task of being president. He tried to resurrect a tactic he employed against former Republican rival Jeb Bush, who Trump had derided as “low energy.”

Clinton kept her pneumonia diagnosis private until she was seen nearly collapsing while getting into her vehicle at a ceremony marking the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in New York.

Ticking off a list of world problems, Trump said, “She’s supposed to fight all of these things and she can’t make it 15 feet to her car. Give me a break.”

“Folks, we need stamina, we need energy, we need people who are going to turn deals around,”Trump said.

Trump has often told crowds who chant “lock her up” over her use of a private email server as U.S. secretary of state from 2009 to 2013 to instead help him defeat her.

But on Saturday, Trump told thousands of supporters that Clinton’s handling of classified emails and destroying of 33,000 emails that she had deemed of a personal nature meant that “she should be in prison, let me tell you.”

Trump did not stop there. He said he did not believe Clinton would be loyal to her supporters and chuckled, “I don’t even think she’s loyal to Bill, to tell you the truth. And why should she be, right? Why should she be?”

In 1998, Clinton’s husband, former President Bill Clinton, was caught up in a sex scandal involving former White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

Trump was widely seen as having lost his first presidential debate with Clinton last Monday although he cites online polls showing he won.

In the days since the debate, Trump has been struggling to regain his footing, getting caught up in a back-and-forth with former Miss Universe Alicia Machado, who Trump had criticized for gaining weight.

(Reporting By Steve Holland; Editing by Tom Brown)
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Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2016 03:15 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Yeah, all the pro-Trump posters over at YouTube are bending over backward tying to explain it away. Here's a couple:

Quote:
Real estate is one of the hardest businesses to run... high risk, high investment & a lot of corruption & cartel involvement.


Also:
Quote:
He may have paid little-to-no income taxes and possibly fucked over a few multi-millionaires, but who gives a ****? Not me. It's business. Every billionaire in the world exploited the system in one way or another.

The latter might have been written by a paid Russian troll-Putin wants Trump in there so bad he can taste it.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2016 05:09 am
http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/StiglT/2016/StiglT20161003_low.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2016 05:11 am
@Blickers,
Pretty hard to spin that stuff, they probably all sprained their wrists in the effort.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2016 12:43 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
It just keeps coming!

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/duadmin/161003-disaster-big-league_zpso8qckzo3.jpg
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Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 9 Oct, 2016 12:42 pm
Well, giujohn was more correct than he imagined. There is indeed an October Surprise. Only it wasn't about Hillary-it was about Trump.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 9 Oct, 2016 06:43 pm
@Blickers,
Only time goooooooooey ever got it right!!!!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 9 Oct, 2016 07:11 pm
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/l/6/7/hillary-trump-grab.jpg
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 17 Oct, 2016 10:18 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14680639_1147707711944771_2706186082543367998_n.jpg?oh=c9e2987de4931bc7ae8dca6f633afffc&oe=58ACA81B
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 17 Oct, 2016 10:19 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14563527_10207674798052077_5047565488119540763_n.jpg?oh=e74991d2bdb448cc43b82ce22acba5be&oe=58AADCDB
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Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 17 Oct, 2016 11:27 pm
@McGentrix,
Pretty stupid poster. How can the doctored up Russian Emails uncover a "rigged election" when the election won't even happen for three weeks yet?

Geez, you guys are slow.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 18 Oct, 2016 06:46 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

Pretty stupid poster. How can the doctored up Russian Emails uncover a "rigged election" when the election won't even happen for three weeks yet?

Geez, you guys are slow.


This is why I can't bear to read your posts. I mean seriously. Look at what you have written here and look at it while pretending to be educated.

What were Primary elections? Were they imaginary? Were they things that don't happen in Blicker's world? What about press coverage and campaign finance laws? Do those have anything to do with elections?

I swear, some days it's like you are really a junior high school student let loose on the internet.
Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 18 Oct, 2016 10:55 am
@McGentrix,
Who says Primaries are elections? Not the Constitution. No mention of them there. For that matter, up until recently, our Republic didn't even have any primaries at all.

You know those conventions the parties have, with the balloons, etc.? Know what they are left over from? For most of this nation's existence, the major parties sent their state leaders down to the convention where they smoked a lot of cigars, drank a ton of whiskey, and bargained with each other to produce a candidate. As in, "I will vote for your guy if he does this or that for us if he gets elected". That's why nominations took so many rounds for most of American history. On the first round, the major candidates' people made a certain amount of promises to other states' leaders to get their support. If nobody got a majority, then they had a second round where more promises were made to various states' leaders in return for more support. If the second round doesn't produce a winner, then they go to the third, fourth, fifth rounds and even longer until a winner emerges. Primaries? What the hell are those?

Only a few decades ago did some states decide to select their candidate by vote of the members of the state's party. By 1968, well within the memory of many people on A2K, only one fourth of the states selected their candidates by using a primary, all the rest of the states sent their state's party leaders to bargain.

Basically, political parties are private organizations who can nominate their candidates any way they want. They can have a primary if they want, they can have a convention where the state's leaders all bargain among themselves, or they can have some grand leader of the party who decrees the candidate by revelation. It's the party's own business how they elect their candidate. So if the party does decide to have a primary, they are free to decide if primary votes count for 100% of the choice, or only 50% with the party leaders' votes or some other method counting for the other 50%. Hell, they can nominate a candidate by coin flips if they want.

About the only rules about the nominating process is that however a party chooses its candidate, it must be submitted and the signatures signed by a certain date to appear on the ballot in each individual state. That's it.

So like I said, given the fact that it is the parties' own business how they choose their candidate, how can you be so uneducated and lacking in knowledge that you can accuse anyone of "rigging an election" when the election has not been held yet? And the primary is not an election, and it's up to the party itself to run the selection process as they see fit. The government can just butt the **** out. And if the government can just butt the **** out, Wikileaks and their Russian information suppliers can really butt the **** out. Which I thought you conservatives would love that political position.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 19 Oct, 2016 05:36 am
@McGentrix,
Primary laws????? The parties make the primary 'laws'.

You're just one of the "junior high school student(s) let loose on the internet."
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