Bigotry and criticism of Islam

In terms of criticism, and what is acceptable. Wouldn't it be true to say:

- If you’ve ever criticised communism, you accept that ideology can be criticised

- If you don’t accept the economic mantra ‘greed is good (for the economy)’ - adhered to by many economists, you accept that ideology can be criticised

- If you’ve ever criticised a political parties ideology, you accept that ideology can be criticised

- If you think that the Vietnam war was a mistake, you accept that ideology (the domino theory) can be criticised

- If you don’t like the effects of Patriotism in the lead up to a war (like the Vietnam war), you accept that even simple ideology (the concept of patriotism) can be criticised

- If you have ever criticised ‘unrestricted’ welfare, for creating pockets of multi-generational welfare families, then you accept that ideology can be criticised

- If you’ve ever criticised Christianity, you accept that (religious) ideology can be criticised (this is of course, highly relevant to whether or not criticism of Islam is acceptable)
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If you accept the principle inherent in the above line of thinking (ideology can be criticised, particularly for its negative affects) – then:
- avoiding (even contemplating) criticism of the ideology of Islam (particularly in light of ongoing terrorist incidents), and/or
- denouncing those who criticise the religious ideology that is contributing to violence in Islam’s name, for nothing more than being critical - is hypocritical

Do we engage in hypocrisy - or do we look at whether or not criticism is justified... in the only source possible to work out whether or not criticism is justified - in Islams holy books?

Of course if the criticism is not justified by Islams holy texts, then accusations of bigotry would be true. So then, once again, before we throw the accusation of bigotry around - it is not incumbent on us to first know what we are talking about? Prior to throwing around the accusation of Bigotry - is it not incumbent on us to know something about the Quran and the Hadiths?

Links to the Quran are in the first post

For reference, the Quran is:
- not in chronological order.
- It is not stories, but 'the revelations of god'
- Its dual in nature, in that it has many contradictory statements
- to overcome this duality - there exists the Islamic 'theory of abrogation' where a later revelation of allah is always stronger than an earlier revelation of Allah. Chapter (Surah) 9 is one of the last chapters 'revealed by Allah'

A reading from any discussion on the Quran can confirm this (wikipedia probably explains it)

1. Both of them - Because one relies on potentially unfounded education - And the other for doing the same.
2. Both of them - Because one relies on potentially unfounded information - And the other for doing the same.
3. Both of them - Because one relies on potentially unfounded politeness - And the other for doing the same.
4. Both of them - Because one relies on potentially unfounded values - And the other for doing the same.
5. Both of them - Because one relies on potentially unfounded judgement - And the other for doing the same.

Or
1. Neither - Because we are all wise in our own minds.
2. Neither - Because we are all wise in our own minds.
Same for 3, 4 and 5.

Or
One or the other depending on your relative vision of (attachment to) specific correlations therewith.

Definitions of Bigot from around the web

http://www.yourdictionary.com/bigot
1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed, opinion, etc.
2. a narrow-minded, prejudiced person

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bigot
a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/bigot
A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bigot?s=t
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Do you see yourself in any of those definitions?

As for the last definition - Would you willingly accept satanists (a group) into your household?

I wouldn't. So I'm a bigot.

I personally think the Cambridge Dictionary definition seems the most reasonable when you apply scenarios to it - so not accepting satanists into your house wouldn't be bigoted. Is it bigoted to be intolerant of intolerance? Again, I think the cambridge definition would pass that test.

As a personal viewpoint, I think the tests are, a person:

- who thinks their opinion is the only possible right opinion/belief etc; and
- who's opinion is an unreasonable opinion: ie. the opinion ignores evidence to the contrary of their opinion, or draws un unreasonable conclusion from the evidence; and
- because of the preceding conditions, they are intolerant of other opinions/beliefs etc;

No master above, No slave below.
Everything is equal and everything is perfect.

I agree that before we criticize something we should have familiar knowledge of it.

Then you would have sided with George III and tortured and killed the Founding Fathers for this bit of intolerance :

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights

It is especially the word 'Unalienable" isn't it ?

Throughout my posts in this thread, the main points have been:

- we should at least have some knowledge of a subject (in this case, the Quran / Hadiths/Mohammed's life) before we call a person criticising the subject 'bigot' (and further that we should know what bigotry entails).

-Read the Quran/Hadiths for yourself, find out whether or not there are grounds for criticism - and make up your own mind from a position or knowledge, rather than ignorance.

-Links to Quran in the first post.

From that - How on earth did you come up with such an out there assertion (quoted)?

Until I see Muslims condemning the perpetrators of atrocities and allowing Freedom of Conscience then every Honor Killing I see adds truth to what is said.

Muslim Turned Christian Girl Flees Honor Killing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnvV85uHQ_s

Not quite the topic of this thread, and not a reply to my question.