Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jun, 2016 07:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Nobody can change the bible's testaments, it's errors, and contradictions.
You keep saying the opposite of reality CI. First science now the bible.
I suspect you have heard more than one disagreement about what the bible means here on a2k. Which one had the unchangeable testament of the bible right? Or are you the guy that has it?

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jun, 2016 08:40 pm
@Leadfoot,
Both refute the bible.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/101_bible_contradictions.htm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jun, 2016 08:44 pm
@Leadfoot,
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2010/08/top-seven-ways-christianity-is-debunked.html

Here are what I consider the top ten occupations that lead to atheism almost all of which are science related. Keep in mind that 93% of the members of the National Academy of Science are atheists. Hmmm, I wonder why?
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2016 12:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Your links are always good for a laugh CI. Here is my favorite from your last one. If you believe the assertion here about knowing 'how the brain works', you lose all credibility. I got that from an honest to gosh neuro scientist btw.

Quote:
7) Become a Neurologist. Once you see how the brain works it accounts for why we think and behave as we do without the god-hypothesis.


I also spent some time reading your link on bible contradictions. It was pathetic. The examples I happened to look at were so easily explained from a literary and historical perspective that theological explainations were not needed.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2016 12:16 pm
@Leadfoot,
Quote:
I also spent some time reading your link on bible contradictions. It was pathetic. The examples I happened to look at were so easily explained from a literary and historical perspective that theological explainations were not needed.


Provide us with some examples. General statements such as yours are meaningless without providing direct examples that can be challenged.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Mon 20 Jun, 2016 12:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
General statements such as yours are meaningless without providing direct examples that can be challenged.
No more meaningless than your links without supporting arguments from You. I could send you back a link with a hundred reasons why you should believe in God but I don't resort to that sort of bs argumentation.

If you give a **** about a particular contradiction, bring it up.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2016 10:40 am
@anthony1312002,
anthony1312002 wrote:
Some people claim to be religious, but they struggle to understand the meaning of “faith.” What is faith, and why is it important?
Faith is ignorance. Ignorance is important because of its risks.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2016 11:01 am
@Chumly,
To me, I see faith as "rationalization."
Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2016 11:05 am
@cicerone imposter,
It allows belief without evidence to be treated as justification, sadly this could easily lead to mankind's downfall, not mankind's redemption.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2016 11:09 am
@Chumly,
If history continues to repeat itself, religions have been responsible for the death of too many.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2016 11:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
What!? No link to the Crusades or Salem witch burnings?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2016 11:16 am
@Leadfoot,
Quote:
How many people have been killed in the name of religion?
The total is between 16 million and 31 million deaths due to religion in recorded history. By comparison, 60 million people died in World War II.
Leadfoot
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jun, 2016 12:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
So the 'Greatest Generation' and one crazed Jew hater killed at least twice as many people in a single war than all those religious folks in all of history?

You need better examples for your cause.
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Smileyrius
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2016 02:00 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
If history continues to repeat itself, religions have been responsible for the death of too many.

Religion is a vehicle, but you can't charge a Fiat Punto with a penalty fine for speeding
Smileyrius
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2016 08:25 am
@cicerone imposter,
just in addition, The Christians were conscientious objectors to war until the faith was annexed by the Roman Empire, after which the "just war" theology was developed to reconcile wars with the Christian belief system. Conscientious objectors in todays society are a minority, and I believe the state welcomes such apathy toward Jesus core teachings.
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jenxol
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2016 10:13 am
@anthony1312002,
Faith is a knowledge within the heart, beyond the reach of proof
maxdancona
 
  1  
Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2016 11:19 am
@jenxol,
jenxol wrote:

Faith is a knowledge within the heart, beyond the reach of proof


Prejudice is a knowledge within the heart, beyond the reach of proof.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2016 11:46 am
@Smileyrius,
Smileyrius wrote:
Religion is a vehicle, but you can't charge a Fiat Punto with a penalty fine for speeding
By vehicle do you mean a thing used to express or do you mean a car? Your mixed metaphor is amusing at best.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2016 11:48 am
@Chumly,
I can use some clarification too! LOL
Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2016 12:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
On a somewhat related note, I don't mind chatting with religionists as they represent a true threat to mankind's survival and thus it's important and interesting, but I don't expect any of them to renounce their faith. Part of the problem is that early childhood religious teachings are the equivalent of a type of child abuse. As has been said by Aristotle: “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.”
 

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