It must be totally black where you live Lash!
Misti, you have no idea the stuff that would be drug up on Rove, you don't want to go there - believe me!
LG: Oh uh, I thought I was on the dark side! Jeesh, scared meself!!
BillW: Isn't that what the news media thrive on? Sensationalism and digging up dirt! Jeesh, they wouldn't have anything to talk about!
Misti -- Karl Rove is the reason that John McCain and Bush don't get along.
Most people and certainly McCain believe Karl Rove engineered a disinformation campaign that McCain's Vietnamese war experiences and long-term POW confinement had rendered him mentally unstable.
misti - This turned into a good thread - maybe you'll do another one? Now that you've learned about Karl Rove ( and he is a large man, so don't ever let him sit on you) maybe something interesting on him? Lash, I don't think he's Satan ( talented as he is, I don't think he's that talented), but I do think he's evil, and perfectly heedless and uncaring about whoever gets in his way.
Anyway, snopes.com is a great source to know about, and a place to double check stories.
Politics - we just can't stay away, can we? And why should we?
Has everyone kissed and made up?
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...........schniff....
Everything I say here will be interpreted by Republicans as being partisan. Democrats may or may not agree with me. I have not read beyond the first few paragraphs of the introductory post. I did not want to be influenced in what I am here going to write. The President has been a taker and user from his early days to the present time. It is not just the boozing and the drugs, or the cowardly actions during Vietnam; it is the total lack of moral responsibility. Anyone who maintains that this president is more upstanding in that category than Clinton has been misled by propaganda. An urban legend if you will. It is not sex. It is in business and taking personal responsibility. He made a career of using and being used by his father's contacts to make a fortune, using insider trader techniques and often leaving failed businesses in the lurch while absconding with a bundle of cash. Even where his actions fall within the scope of legality there is that something of the thief in his actions. He has since becoming president had laws changed so that illegal business practices suddenly became legal. He has surrounded himself with people of the same bent. He and his brother stole the election in Florida. He has forsaken the policies that gave us a surplus. He has sought to take the monetary shortfall out of the pockets of the poor. He has undertaken a rogue foreign policy totally out of step with reality. The military turns to salute a mirage.
hey, it's politics. whadda we expect?
Some call it diatribes, others call it facts.
Carl Rove was the centralizing factor for GWB and old what's his name (the one that won his passage to heaven on his death bed by confessing to all his sins - Lee Atwater) when they came up with the Willie Horton scheme against Dukakis and other 1980's shenanigans.
http://www.dystopical.com/W2/b.arovin.html
Lash Goth wrote:Pro- or anti- Bush, GOP, or politics in general is not my concern in this matter.
Tell me this:
When there is a joke on a Joke thread, or a poem submitted by one of our friends.... if we don't like the content, are we now to take the lead of those who bashed the 'reflections' here, and start snapping like a pack of wild dogs?
This will quickly ruin this friendly neighborhood.
I stand by my assertion that this was not the place for the responses to the header.
When I come upon a poem that I don't like, a joke that I don't agree with, or a Human Interest story, that has NO interest for me....I move on without saying anything.
Politics board is the place to debate. Human Interest is not. Nor is Jokes, Poetry, or Religion unless debate is asked for. I think what happened here sets a bad precedent, and encourages mob rule and poor citizenship on this Board.
Additionally, there ARE many Americans, who are apolitical, but think the sitting president deserves a certain level of respect, for no other reason than he holds the office. Its not so much respect for the man, as respect for the office. It may be a generational thing, or a matter of upbringing. Certainly, this 'feeling' can't be forced upon others--not should it's existence be challenged.
A) Please stop telling people where the place to debate is, nobody ever determined that the only place to debate is politics. Nobody determined that you can't debate on the jokes forum etc. This does not mean we are submitting to "mob rule". It just means a member wasn't able to determine for all the others where their place to debate is.
B) Disagreeing with someones posted text will not ruin a friendly neighbourhood, being rude about it will.
C) The issue about respect for an office SHOULD be challenged by anyone who disagrees with it. Anyone who disagrees with it should challenge it.
Stop beating around the bush Edgar,....What do you really think of Bush?
Craven,
...I concur with your last post. Debate can be so fullfiling. Once, I made a 20 hour road trip, by auto with two friends. During that time we argued intensly about politics, religion, and the esscence of existence. This was non-stop except, rest stops. In all that time, no one was cursed, or had his intelligence questioned. By the time we emerged from these cramped, sleeped deprived, circumstances we had forged lifelong friendships.
...We have decided over the past 35 years, that our secret must be that in an argument our main objective is not to win, but to seek the truth.
Booman wrote:We have decided over the past 35 years, that our secret must be that in an argument our main objective is not to win, but to seek the truth.
Oooh. Like it.
Lash, I thought of posting this in Human Interest stories. I found it very disturbing. Would you have passed by with no comment?
Quote:Brothers and Sisters, please read and pass along. We must remember this at the polls, and choose wisely. Whites-only covenant shows Bush's true colors.
Texas governor and Republican presidential candidate, George W. Bush recently sent waves through the Black community following a discovery that a Dallas house he sold in 1995 carries a racial covenant, which restricts the sale of the house to white people only. Bush and his wife, Laura, bought the house in 1988. How is this legal? It isn't.
The Fair Housing Act prevents the enforcement of racial covenants. However, many houses still carry them as a remnant of the Jim Crow era when it was common practice to exclude Blacks from buying houses and living in white neighborhoods. The Bush campaign responded with a online statement saying that the racial covenant was void and that Bush was unaware of it when he sold the house. Yeah right! It's extremely irresponsible for a public figure to accidentally overlook such a stipulation. Did Bush really know but just didn't care to do anything about it? The real estate agent who prepared the papers for the sale said that she notified Bush of the racial covenant but that he signed the papers anyway.
Perhaps equally shocking as the racial covenant is the fact that the media has swept this story under the rug.
Have you heard about it in any of the newspapers you read or on any of the news programs you watch?
Do you give Bush the benefit of the doubt?
Was he unaware of the racial covenant during the time he and his family lived in the house, or did he know and decide that it wasn't worth having?
Should HUD initiate a law that requires all homeowners to wipe racial covenants from their deeds?
* Did the media deliberately fail to cover this story?
* Do you think it would have been handled differently if a similar story was revealed about a Black candidate?
A) Please stop telling people where the place to debate is, nobody ever determined that the only place to debate is politics. Nobody determined that you can't debate on the jokes forum etc. This does not mean we are submitting to "mob rule". It just means a member wasn't able to determine for all the others where their place to debate is.
Please stop telling me to stop telling....
I asserted an opinion. I'm not posing as an authority on opinions. Why are mine so upsetting? We are all asserting opinions. I will continue to assert opinions.... My opinion is no more important or less important than the next person's.
Mama told me not to come
Mama told me not to come
She said:
"That ain't the way to have fun,
Son.
That ain't the way to have fun . . ."
sozobe--
The truth.
Because your post asked questions, I would have felt invited to answer the questions, of course, employing my opinion (and facts if I knew them. I'd never heard of this, so I am unaware of the facts.)
I would not have been rude to you, which was my only problem in the previous situation.
Because of the placement in the HI category, unless it was late at night, and I was looking for conversation, I would probably have passed it by, as I have done in other cases.
IMO, and it may be only mine, Politics asks for dissenting views, HI does not, though they may be shared.
That is my honest answer.
B) Disagreeing with someones posted text will not ruin a friendly neighbourhood, being rude about it will.
Then, why the problem. That was my point.
(I peed a little, laughing too hard) 