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Was God creating Satan a good idea?

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 02:01 pm
@Smileyrius,
True to the extent that most stay with the religion of their parents.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 02:15 pm
@InfraBlue,
Hmm. . .
So your answer to this:
neologist wrote:
Let's see:
Can you live where you wish?
Yes.
Can you choose your vocation?
Yes.
Can you travel anywhere?
Yes.
Eat lasagna 24/7?
Yes.
Can you play a musical instrument?
Yes. Learn 'em all.
If you don't like broccoli, do you have to eat it?
No.
So far, so good. How about.
Will any one get sick?
No.
Die?
No.
Will any one steal?
No.
Oppress or assault?
No.
Rape?
No.
Have I missed any areas of self determination?
Is this?
InfraBlue wrote:
None of it.
Reminds me of Johnny Cash
Quote:
They say they want the kingdom. But they don't want God in it
The Wanderer
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 02:16 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
It's worked as well as humanly possible.
Can't argue with that.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 04:35 pm
@neologist,
No. The question I answered was, "So, what of the things I mentioned would you exclude in your autonomy?"
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 05:08 pm
@InfraBlue,
Have I confused the question? For it seems to me that you are saying murder and rape are OK with you.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2016 09:38 pm
@neologist,
Yes, you have. They're not OK with me. The punitive laws with which mankind deal with them are OK with me.
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 12:12 am
@InfraBlue,
neologist wrote:
Have I confused the question? For it seems to me that you are saying murder and rape are OK with you.
InfraBlue wrote:
Yes, you have. They're not OK with me. The punitive laws with which mankind deal with them are OK with me.
How would you handle such offences?
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 02:00 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

neologist wrote:
Have I confused the question? For it seems to me that you are saying murder and rape are OK with you.
InfraBlue wrote:
Yes, you have. They're not OK with me. The punitive laws with which mankind deal with them are OK with me.
How would you handle such offences?


I'd handle them through some of the justice systems developed by mankind.
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 11:44 am
@InfraBlue,
neologist wrote:
Have I confused the question? For it seems to me that you are saying murder and rape are OK with you.
InfraBlue wrote:
Yes, you have. They're not OK with me. The punitive laws with which mankind deal with them are OK with me.
neologist wrote:
How would you handle such offences?
InfraBlue wrote:
I'd handle them through some of the justice systems developed by mankind.
So, going back a few pages, How would the punitive laws and justice systems you espouse be superior to the sentiment you expressed here?
neologist wrote:
. . . If everyone in the world had a built in aversion to wrongdoing, would that be a good thing?
InfraBlue wrote:
By definition it would be a good thing.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 06:36 pm
@neologist,
It's based on the here and now and not some idealized, wishful pining.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 08:34 am
@InfraBlue,
Thinking about the ideal is not necessarily a waste of time.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 11:03 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
It's based on the here and now and not some idealized, wishful pining.
For the here and now, we continue to live with it. But the "wishful pining" you refer to is no unreachable ideal; it is the purpose for which mankind was created.
Quote:
God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” (Genesis 1:28)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 11:05 am
@neologist,
Do you understand how Homo sapiens evolved?
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 11:13 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Do you understand how Homo sapiens evolved?
I'd love to see your explanation.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 12:19 pm
@neologist,
I'm surprised you had to ask. All one needs to do is type on any search engine, <homo sapien evolution>.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 05:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
No. I wanted to see if you could explain in your own words.
I've seen the multi syllable bloviations.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 05:58 pm
@neologist,
Mankind has been filling the earth and subduing it, ruling over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground for dozens of millennia.

Your mythology was written much, much later after the fact and states the obvious.
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 07:41 pm
@InfraBlue,
Just reporting the text. Not expecting y0u to suddenly believe. But note that if they had not sinned, they would still be here and we would have none of the ills discussed in our last few posts.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2016 11:08 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Just reporting the text. Not expecting y0u to suddenly believe. But note that if they had not sinned, they would still be here and we would have none of the ills discussed in our last few posts.

The ills are a part of life. Deal with it.

I don't buy that mythology either.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2016 02:27 pm
@InfraBlue,
Sin was a foregone conclusion for the perpetuation of the species. Age and disease will control human population on this planet.
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