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Fri 19 Feb, 2016 04:47 pm
The Oregon Standoff Is Over, but the Militia Left Something Behind to Remember Them by: Their Poop
The militia left behind ‘significant amounts of human feces’ and dug trenches filled with waste on grounds that contained sensitive Native American artifacts.
By Sam Levin / The Guardian
February 18, 2016
The armed militia in Oregon left behind “significant amounts of human feces” and dug trenches filled with waste on wildlife refuge grounds that contained sensitive Native American artifacts, according to the FBI.
One week after the final four anti-government protesters surrendered at the Malheur national wildlife refuge in rural Harney County, federal investigators have begun the long task of processing the “crime scene” and have uncovered firearms, explosives, potential booby traps and large piles of human excrement, prosecutors wrote in a new court filing.
“Occupiers appear to have excavated two large trenches and an improvised road on or adjacent to grounds containing sensitive artifacts,” Billy Williams, US attorney, wrote in a Tuesday filing in federal court, outlining the FBI’s findings in its preliminary investigation. “At least one of those trenches contains human feces.”
Additionally, he wrote, “tactical teams responsible for initially securing the refuge reported significant amounts of human feces in and around an outdoor camping area”.
Williams was responding to a request by lawyers for jailed militia leader Ammon Bundy to grant the defense team access to the site.
Bundy and 24 other people are facing federal conspiracy charges for their role in the occupation of the wildlife sanctuary, which began 2 January in protest of government land-use regulations and ended after 41 days of a tense standoff with the FBI.
Although the rightwing protesters argued that the federal government should transfer control of the public lands to local people, leaders of the Paiute Indian tribe in the nearby town of Burns have noted that their ancestors first occupied the land, which they say is home to sacred burial grounds and important cultural artifacts.
“This is going to take a lot of healing,” said Jarvis Kennedy, the tribal council’s sergeant-at-arms and a lifelong Burns resident. “Even though they’re gone, the stuff we’re finding out now is still getting us mad and riled up … They just kind of disgust me.”
In addition to burial grounds – which Kennedy said are located throughout the site that the militia occupied – some of the buildings at the refuge headquarters contain documents related to tribal history as well thousands of artifacts, such as baskets, tools and beads, according to officials.
Tribal leaders were outraged last month when militia leaders posted a video of themselves rifling through some of the stored artifacts. The protesters also paved a new road at the wildlife sanctuary.
“It is pretty disrespectful, but what can you expect from people like that?” Kennedy said. “They’re out there trampling on our burial grounds, making roads and digging bunkers … It is pretty well trashed.”
In addition to the trenches and piles of feces, FBI officials have discovered large amounts of rotten food in one of the living quarters at the refuge, prosecutors said. Investigators have further uncovered guns, explosives and numerous vehicles that the FBI fears may be booby trapped.
The tribe has not yet been able to visit the refuge while the FBI continues its work, Kennedy said. “They are doing their best … We’ve just got to be patient.”
As soon as they are granted access, the tribe will likely do some kind of “cleansing ceremony” before assessing the extent of the damage, Kennedy added. “These artifacts you make are a part of you. It has your spirit.”
In the filing, Williams said the government was willing to allow Bundy’s lawyers to visit the refuge before the site reopened to the public – but only after officials have collected evidence.
Bundy’s lawyers argued in court that they had a legal right to have representatives at the refuge as the FBI processed evidence to ensure that officials did not blame him for acts that occurred after he was taken into custody. The occupation continued for two weeks following his arrest.
Attorney Mike Arnold wrote in court filings that Bundy accepted prosecutors’ offer to visit the refuge before the public returns. But, he added: “Mr Bundy also demands access by an investigator and videographer to the site immediately to observe the FBI’s processing of the scene.”
Sam Levin is a journalist currently living in Oakland, CA, where he works as a staff writer for the East Bay Express. He previously worked for several alternative weeklies, including Riverfront Times in St. Louis, Westword in Denver, and the Village Voice in New York City
@bobsal u1553115,
Oh ****. Literally.
By the time they get to the point where they are charging you for digging a hole to take a crap in, you know they have a ton of more substantial charges coming up. One thing that isn't mentioned much, and I wonder why, is the use of that heavy construction equipment to build fortifications against the supposed attack by the FBI, as well as building a road just for themselves. One of those pieces of equipment new go for $100,000 or more, and they might have used more than one. Add the cost of checking out and repairing anything that these guys might have misused, and the fact that they used this equipment many times, (which I think might be a separate time for each count), and these guys might be facing years in jail for just that issue alone. Not to mention everything else they are going to get charged with.
@Blickers,
One of my consolations, besides the comedy value of the militia itself, is the knowledge that some of these guys are going to get years to consider their folly. Also that some of them will be convicted by co-operating militia men unable to withstand any delay getting home over any sort of heart felt political activity.
I read the woman member of the holdout four has been released pending trial providing she has no access to firearms and is not allowed to contact her unreleased husband. She claimed she didn't realize she was allowed to leave, and thats the only reason she stayed.
Well I guess her husband didn't want her to leave because he didn't want to give up consortium with the missus. Survival sex must be intense. Makes one wonder about the other two guys.
@bobsal u1553115,
Can't you contain your comments in one of the other threads dedicate to this topic? You don't get a prize for number of threads started.
@Finn dAbuzz,
Edgar's thread has been closed for days. I don't see anything wrong with a new discussion of this aspect of the incident. Interesting to see who rolls over and who stands up and does the time. And it might be quite a lot of time.
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote bobsal:
Quote:Well I guess her husband didn't want her to leave because he didn't want to give up consortium with the missus. Survival sex must be intense. Makes one wonder about the other two guys.
When Bundy first took over he did sort of advertise the place as a vacation place for Patriots. Think these four can get off by claiming they were victims of false advertising?
@Finn dAbuzz,
You are so mean. I am going off to have a bit of a cry.
@Blickers,
Wifey seems committed to the gambit. I hope orange becomes her new camo.
@bobsal u1553115,
The last four were pretty pathetic. Sean especially, Mr. Growl-at-the-camera-and-says-kill-cops, spent the next few days on video wondering where all his Patriot supporters were who were telling them they were going to back them up. Talk about being hung out to dry.
God, the list of charges and counts is going to be sooooooo long.
@bobsal u1553115,
Looks like the solidarity of the occupiers is falling apart already. Ammon Bundy's lawyer has asked to be present at the police investigation of the incident because he doesn't want his client to be blamed for damage that was done after Bundy was taken into custody. He was denied. But it sure looks like the process of blaming other occupiers for whatever damage was done to the property or vehicles has begun. Brotherhood is unravelling already.
@Blickers,
They never had much solidarity or a plan, either. Jail will be good for them.
@bobsal u1553115,
I agree. Thier "plan" was to put children and women in the way of anyone wanting to throw them out, like they did at the Bundy ranch. The Feds backed off. Sure enough, the Bundys figured they had a way to build a movement, one child and woman at a time. Heck, Ammon Bundy was going to out-of-state meetings during the occupation, giving speeched about his "expertise" in how to fight the government. This time it didn't work.
@Blickers,
And benefited from Federal loans, grants, program, subsidized grazing. He and his whole bunch are welfare addicted.
Oregon refuge occupiers plead not guilty as prosecutors say more people could be charged
Source: Washington Post
PORTLAND — Less than two weeks after the armed occupation of an Oregon wildlife refuge ended, the FBI says they are done going through to check for explosives and any stragglers who may have stayed behind.
But even as the focus has shifted to the courtroom, with some of the people indicted for the occupation arraigned on Wednesday, authorities say that other people could soon be charged for the weeks-long takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
So far, 25 people have been indicted for the Oregon wildlife occupation — 16 of them earlier this month and another nine not long after. Some of these people have also separately been charged for the armed standoff at Cliven Bundy’s Nevada ranch in 2014.
Early next month, the government is likely to file a superseding indictment “that may add additional charges and defendants,” according to a court filing this week from federal prosecutors. It is also possible additional indictments could follow that based on what investigators find as they process evidence, the filing said.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/02/24/fbi-finishes-clearing-oregon-refuge-as-authorities-say-more-people-could-be-charged-for-the-occupation/
@bobsal u1553115,
The judge seems to be not willing to wait for the prosecution to fully process the evidence before coming down with new charges and indictments. The prosecution asked for 3 months to process the evidence, and she is not happy. That seems like a reasonable time to process the evidence to me.
@Blickers,
I think the judge wants to deal with a bunch of vandals and hooligans, but the prosecution wants to jail a political group for a political action as a conspiracy.
@bobsal u1553115,
That could be. Apparently the defendants have taken the option of the "speedy trial", which is in the constitution. So that might be what the judge feels constrained by, she mentioned it a few times in the court, from the accounts I've read.
I think it might have something to do with the police bringing in an expert on artifact care and desecration. Since this is the Paiute's ancestral home for many thousands of years, the reservation has artifacts all over the place. These guys have been using the refuge's heavy construction equipment to build their own road, to make latrines, and to make "fortifications" at the end, and probably quite a lot in between. You add on artifact desecration onto the that, and the prison time goes up even higher. Also, since this whole thing was to try to posture as freedom fighters against the "oppressive" Federal government, being portrayed as a bunch of artifact destroying louts isn't going to help them in front of a jury or in the public eye.
My guess is that the defense wants a speedy trial to get these first charges done during the first trial, and hope that the thing blows over enough that the government doesn't bother for a second trial for those charges that take longer to investigate.
@bobsal u1553115,
They might be able to be both of this things - in different courts.
It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. There's a bunch of stuff re crossing state lines and damaging artifacts of national/international interest that could effect jurisdiction.
@ehBeth,
They're already being tried in the Federal system. It was Federal land that they were on. However, states are free to charge them with whatever charges they see fit, the local towns had to close a school, there might be charges stemming from that.
@Blickers,
and tribal courts
I really want that to happen.